I'll have to disagree with saxitoxin... Iran probably wants oil prices to rise. Like many of its competitors in the region, oil is a HUGE part of their economy. But then Iran has been dealing with years of crippling sanctions from nearly the entire Western world. They want to make some good oil ...

First, let me say good job to the scum team who played this game brilliantly. I am proud to say that I called out Strike long ago and PCM more recently and was completely right on both counts. This was also a wonderful setup so thank you Edocsil for that and for dealing with some of the roadbumps ...

EBWOP: Damn, I should have asked Strike his action before saying that. I shouldn't post when I'm sick I'm not thinking straight.

Rodion wrote:Saf shouldn't be a demon if / got flavour when he protected him. That would mean mafia tried to kill him. I'm confused.

Busdrive redirected back to Saf?

Don't know how I misread that. I guess my mind saw what it was looking for.

Unvote while we re-evaluate.

On the other hand, if Strike is Mammon and has busdriver abilities, that means he can protect himself from a vigging tonight. If we do end up killing Rodion and he's not Mammon, the Safari should stay his hand so that we don't end up with two dead town.

Sorry for the triple post, but why is jak not a demon?
Easy, Jak replaced Com9. Com9 is one of those to turn up innocent from Safari's investigations. Ergo, Jak cannot be a demon.
Night 1: Sully- Innocent
Night 2: Com9- Innocent
Night 3: VioIet- Innocent
Night 4: Soundman- Guilty

/ is obviously ...

I would like to see claims (name and role) in this order:
pancakemix
/
Rodion
strike wolf

I would like to reiterate that these people proven to be non-demons (may still be subverted):
jakv2
F1fth
VioIet
safari

Safari has suggested that the angels win condition is when all the demons are ...

I am questioning why Safari is still alive to be honest, he has been outed as a cop for a while now. Either they are afraid of a doctor , or Safari isn't 100% what he seems (or he could be converted which would highly benefit the demons).
My guess is the first one. There's no reason to doubt his ...

I don't feel comfortable taking a gamble at the risk of hitting town at this late point in the game. I suppose we could hazard a guess on who the remaining demons are, but we may be close to losing this with a mislynch and if the slowing of discussion is any indication then nobody has any other ...

I am not Firth, he was a different player. I am F1fth or Fifth.

Have you given any consideration to the possibility that Aage was indeed the recruiter as / mentioned? He even provided evidence based on the fact that Aage's death seemed to cause a last spate of recruitments.

Admittedly, it was not ...

EBWOP: Fastposted by Rodion.

Welcome back, Jak. Glad to see someone trying to spark some activity in this game.

Only two of the 4 original were found on that list, leaving two baddies up, yes?
That depends on whether Chap's investigation was affect by Aage and his godfather role. The initial report came up with 4 and if Aage ...

I'm going to Unvote Vote DRoZ and I'll explain why:

1. Despite my reservations about strike, he has been quite active and forthcoming with information.

2. Strike has made some pretty bold claims about his actions and none have been disproven.

3. DRoZ has been quiet and very reticent.

Based on ...

It's curious that some are choosing to vote a person they believe is a recruited saint when there is still the matter of the recruiter to deal with.

Well as we don't know who this recruiter is yet, nor are we 100% sure that we even have one, I think the smart thing to do is go after someone who ...

It's curious that some are choosing to vote a person they believe is a recruited saint when there is still the matter of the recruiter to deal with.

Also, we have a claimed busdriver so we if you trust that then we should make sure he didn't have anything to do with safari's result before jumping ...

Vote Strike based on Ockham's Razor.

Are we really expected to believe that for no reason at all, we had a busdriver happen to target two scum on the night that a cop investigates one of them? Possibly, but I can think of no earthy reason why soundman and rishaed would be "chosen" unless strike ...

I am inclined to believe Jonty in his claim for several reasons:
1. Gabriel is a strong name claim and would be risky to try as scum.
2. Others have mentioned the possibility of mafia recruitment and Jonty's claim fits with that.
3. His reluctance to claim strikes me as pro-town considering what his ...

I will also throw my support behind the motion to have soundman and jonty claim.

I'm not sure if you expect any more hard evidence, I'm just moving down the list. It's a concrete resource that gets more helpful the more we narrow it down. We have remaining Safari, strike, DRoZ, aage, soundman, and yourself.

Safari, strike, and DRoZ have practically confirmed their roles ...

Even though I'm skeptical of a doctor claim because we've already had a fake one from scum, I suppose giving it one night allows us to take care of someone else off the list. If aage survives the night, then we can make a pretty good case that he's scum because why would scum let a claimed doc live ...

Sorry for my absence, but as others have noted this is a busy time of year. Looks like the ball is rolling fast today, so we should slow it down and think things through.

Clearly, at least one person must be scum between Safari, Strike, Soundman, and Rishaed. Of note is that every one of these ...

Rodion wrote:Jonty, Aage and Sam vote Vodean.

Everyone else unvote.

Fair enough. Unvote

So Vodean, you're defense is that there likely other 3rd party saints? Because two saints have died thus far and both of them turned up with blue names indicating they are town.

We have yet to see any third party saints so lynching you would be a good test that they exist. At worst, we lose someone ...