D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

by **SoN!c** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 4:20 pm

Devante wrote:
SoN!c wrote:
Devante wrote:also drunk sonic what is my non-disclosure condition? Do I finally get the very LARGE SWORD I asked for

Ok.. since im apparently drunk i'll play along..It's a Long Way to Tipperary for you to recieve that VERY LARGE COMMUNITY SWORD...

You got 5 additional conditions Dev in your welcome post...

Your condition n°4
"You may not directly claim this knowledge in thread or claim to be the ? (the host enforces silence by rule). Failure to do so will result in your and the ? instant death."

So not a drunk Sonic just a Devante who forgot about the other stuff in that pm, my bad Sonic. I still want my sword

There is one player who will receive a very, very powerfull PR....on N1

but for the moment Hallrob has the banana in his pants :lol:

by **SoN!c** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 4:37 pm

Devante wrote:
SoN!c wrote:
Devante wrote:also drunk sonic what is my non-disclosure condition? Do I finally get the very LARGE SWORD I asked for

Ok.. since im apparently drunk i'll play along..It's a Long Way to Tipperary for you to recieve that VERY LARGE COMMUNITY SWORD...

You got 5 additional conditions Dev in your welcome post...

Your condition n°4
"You may not directly claim this knowledge in thread or claim to be the ? (the host enforces silence by rule). Failure to do so will result in your and the ? instant death."

So not a drunk Sonic just a Devante who forgot about the other stuff in that pm, my bad Sonic. I still want my sword

Host comment: whether Devante realy forgot about it or not, he played nicely around his conditions (for now)... so as game master i have to respect that ingenuity! Very well done Devante =D>

by **Devante** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:04 pm

SoN!c wrote:
Devante wrote:
SoN!c wrote:
Devante wrote:also drunk sonic what is my non-disclosure condition? Do I finally get the very LARGE SWORD I asked for

Ok.. since im apparently drunk i'll play along..It's a Long Way to Tipperary for you to recieve that VERY LARGE COMMUNITY SWORD...

You got 5 additional conditions Dev in your welcome post...

Your condition n°4
"You may not directly claim this knowledge in thread or claim to be the ? (the host enforces silence by rule). Failure to do so will result in your and the ? instant death."

So not a drunk Sonic just a Devante who forgot about the other stuff in that pm, my bad Sonic. I still want my sword

Host comment: whether Devante realy forgot about it or not, he played nicely around his conditions (for now)... so as game master i have to respect that ingenuity! Very well done Devante

Would be more appreciative if it came with a gifted sword....just sayin

by **hjelp** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:13 pm

ok then.
I also
Unvote Devante
The Reid Technique seems to be passed information.

by **SoN!c** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:55 pm

Official vote count:

Devante (3) - Extreme Ways, Darin, Halrob
Halrob (1) - Loose Canon

*Devante was at L-1

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

by **kongming3** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 6:14 pm

I think dev doing the work to analyze what mod sonic says is a town-sided move (assuming it makes sense and is logical, which it did so thanks for that dev.) Key points being the perceived number of scum, potential roles to be wary of, and concern of a 3p arsonist, though nothing is by any means guaranteed. Don't think he should claim or be lynched at the moment. I also assumed the whole suicide thing was just dev being like I'd prefer not to die but if I have to die then so be it. Obviously in a vacuum all town players (and scum/3p players for that matter) should want to live as long as possible, but it's not anti-town to recognize situations where it's necessary or beneficial for town for a given town player, including yourself, to want to die.

Last game for instance EW voted to have himself lynched, to some controversy, but I think it was the right move for him to do even as town given the context. Obviously in an ideal world he wasn't under suspicion at all and didn't need to be lynched, but enough town players had decided he was suspicious that he was going to be lynched that day or the next regardless so dying as town let his information be validated immediately and stopped town from wasting another full day and night cycle and losing the following day. Here would be a similar thing, if enough people are tunnelled on a (potentially) town dev that town has no hope of otherwise making progress in lynching scum, it is in town's interest and dev's interest as a town player to not draw it out and have dev lynched as soon as possible. To be clear, I don't think we've reached that point and again don't think dev should even claim here but it is sometimes necessary or beneficial for town players to want to die.

In a similar sentiment, town's ideal list for night kills are generally 3p/scum killing themselves>protected targets>vanilla town>other town roles in order of current important. Generally speaking, in the absence of the ability to make one of the first two happen, vanilla town players should almost always actively want to be killed night one in the place of a more important town role. The same goes even more for something like a one-shot information role, once they've shared their info they should want to be killed by scum (by pretending to have more powers left for instance) or depending on how gamebreaking their info was, even trying to get lynched as probable town can make sense to do.

Also, not really getting how much of all that was pure mod waffle and how much is actual leaked information/important info.

by **strike wolf** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:45 pm

Im going to be honest, Im having trouble keeping up with the game right now. Every time Ive been trying to read up, I've had to get up before Im done and then theres 10+ more posts.

by **halrob64** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 9:51 pm

Unvote Devante

by **halrob64** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:15 pm

I will unvote Dev for now, I still cannot work out why you would threaten to claim town when you didn't need to and making a claim to protect a town member who is more important certainly does not apply at this stage.
Hopefully the doc has a clearer view hjelp because at the moment you could be asking him to back a weak horse but what do I know about it? Far greater minds at work here.
I do wonder about Loose Cannon or is it the Lord of Chaos??
One of the first people to put forward lynching Dev, was that to see who came out of the woodwork? You were very quick to withdraw your vote, maybe it gave Dev the chance to live another day and carry out nefarious deeds or you genuinely panicked when you realised your mistake?
Loose you give the impression of being a solid town member, maybe you are, maybe you have a starring role, however if that were the case you would have kept quiet about an issue you raised regarding my posts, or did you want to start turning the screw?
If you thought I was town as the post implied why suddenly pressure me to make a claim by voting me for a lynching?
I want to think Loose has a good guy role but his approach seems to be to sow doubt and chaos
No idea what all the drunk stuff is about and if someone is posting confidential information then they should be banished immediately in fact being drunk inside town limits should be a crime

Strikewolf the old I'm too tired, I don't have time to read the posts ploy, really

I think that makes you high on the list for someone to ask questions and maybe push you for a claim?
We do need a good investigator, someone like the Clock Maker would soon expose a villain or two.
Vote Strikewolf

by **halrob64** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:16 pm

VOTE STRIKEWOLF

by **halrob64** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:17 pm

TRY AGAIN VOTE STRIKE WOLF

by **halrob64** on Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:18 pm

you lucky b**stard it wont give me the red font!!

by **Loose Canon** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 12:49 am

halrob64 wrote:I will unvote Dev for now, I still cannot work out why you would threaten to claim town when you didn't need to and making a claim to protect a town member who is more important certainly does not apply at this stage.
Hopefully the doc has a clearer view hjelp because at the moment you could be asking him to back a weak horse but what do I know about it? Far greater minds at work here.
I do wonder about Loose Cannon or is it the Lord of Chaos??
One of the first people to put forward lynching Dev, was that to see who came out of the woodwork? You were very quick to withdraw your vote, maybe it gave Dev the chance to live another day and carry out nefarious deeds or you genuinely panicked when you realised your mistake?
Loose you give the impression of being a solid town member, maybe you are, maybe you have a starring role, however if that were the case you would have kept quiet about an issue you raised regarding my posts, or did you want to start turning the screw?
If you thought I was town as the post implied why suddenly pressure me to make a claim by voting me for a lynching?
I want to think Loose has a good guy role but his approach seems to be to sow doubt and chaos
No idea what all the drunk stuff is about and if someone is posting confidential information then they should be banished immediately in fact being drunk inside town limits should be a crime
Strikewolf the old I'm too tired, I don't have time to read the posts ploy, really
I think that makes you high on the list for someone to ask questions and maybe push you for a claim?
We do need a good investigator, someone like the Clock Maker would soon expose a villain or two.
Vote Strikewolf

You are right to be considering me as possible mafia/3P

I'm not deliberately causing chaos.

Dev when I voted Dev was as I said Extreme's reasoning on players read to me 'OK could be' as I thought about it.
I did register that in Extreme's reasoning leading up to his vote it was like fitting all his other reasoning together whats left over - therefore if the rest is correct Dev is mafia.
Extreme chose to vote Dev, I followed to see what might fall out from it.
I didn't like Devs initial response to the pressure.
I have liked his further responses, and found myself being on the whole in agreement with most of the analysis in his responses.

Liking responses and agreeing with analyses is not the same as evidence of being town.
Questioning players you think of as being town is valid - particularly for that reason.

I personally am edging you as town - but I'm not sure others are.

Leaving clues as to role is something both me and Sonic did when we went town on town v each other in I think The Tick 1 game.
We were both inexperienced then.
Its dangerous and so not actually being that experienced myself still, its not a club I currently carry with me in my golfbag.
Extreme made an exception and played it I thought beautifully in the game I hosted when he slipped in in words close to mine what I had said to Vanilla townies.

Did you or did you not say you had been leaving clues as to your role - because thats how it read to me?

by **hjelp** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 5:34 am

Devante is off list.
list Updated:

strike wolf
kongming3

Not sure yet about the 3rd.

Vote strike wolf

by **SoN!c** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 5:37 am

Official vote count:

Devante (2) - Extreme Ways, Darin
Halrob (1) - Loose Canon
Strike Wolf (1) - Hjelp

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

by **Ragian** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 9:16 am

halrob64 wrote:
Ragian wrote:I like this post from Devante. To me, he comes across as knowing he might get forced to claim, and he's trying to see how that could be beneficial to town. Any town player must be willing to sacrifice themselves in order to win in the long run. That's the vibe I'm getting here.

Really Ragian??
I thought the role of townsfolk was to identify who is mafia and eliminate them, sacrificing yourself is detrimental to the game and town friends.
Getting eliminated weakens the town position.
I'm suspicious of Devante threatening to claim town, I don't see the need at this stage to do that, in any event if its true he has played his hand too soon.
I'm now suspicious of you encouraging him to commit suicide for the town as that would be something scum would encourage.

I think you're misunderstanding or, perhaps, misrepresenting my point. Devante (thanks mate) cleared it up, though, so that's nice. Never thought that could be distorted so...

Loose Canon wrote:The player who I'm most mindf***ing myself over right now is ragian though.

There was the strike thing, which he retreated himself from too quickly for my comfort.

Then he hasn't actually voted at all D1 yet, and played quietly or reservedly for rag. And I'm thinking was this to not draw attention.

Then I find I like his post on dev.
But liking a rag post doesn't make rag town.

My vote isn't on rag, but he is top of my self mindf***ery / curiosity/ suspicion.

Yeah, sorry. It's been a very busy week.

The Strike thing was just random to stir shit up, but I haven't even had time to revisit the reactions :roll:

I haven't retreated from it, I just haven't treated it yet...

Off the top of my head, I'd say that halrob is (hal)rubbing me the wrong way, but I think it's his approach to the game that has me doing doubletakes. I don't actually think he's scum. A few things bugged me, trying to catch up.
- Way too many mod posts.
- Devante didn't claim at L-2.
- Hjelp put Devante at L-1 opening up for a speedlynch or the fact that Dev could've been hated townie (role that requires one vote fewer than majority to lynch).
- Strike says he has trouble keeping up and then two people vote him.

I think of the above, hjelp stands out the most. I'll gather my thoughts later.

by **hjelp** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 10:23 am

@ Ragian

I voted strike wolf because

hjelp wrote:I think strike wolf hide something since changing focus to something else. Also "strike wolf" - it's striking that the name is a resemblance to werewolf which is a possible 3P.

by **hjelp** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 10:26 am

@Ragian

also, strike wolf hasn't yet answered

hjelp wrote:@ strike wolf
Why change subject immediately?

and

hjelp wrote:@ strike wolf

Was your tail Yellow when you turned around?

by **halrob64** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 12:40 pm

Loose Canon wrote:Did you or did you not say you had been leaving clues as to your role - because thats how it read to me?

I did but I also said that if you were town and on my side believing I'm town you would keep that quiet. But its the fun part of the game, lets remember its fun and we are playing a part.

by **halrob64** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 12:44 pm

I think Ragian would make a good Clockmaker

by **Loose Canon** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 1:09 pm

Ok Hal I accept we are playing this in good spirit - and mistakes are mistakes which I have made as town in the past.

You made your statement in a one liner in plan sight - and remember there are probably 3 mafia and maybe 1 sk so at least one would almost certainly have picked up on it because there's no shortage of clever players here.

The damage was already done as far as I'm concerned - so you should make a full claim so town has as much information on you as mafia has.
I think so anyway.

by **hjelp** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 1:54 pm

Ragian wrote:...
- Hjelp put Devante at L-1 opening up for a speedlynch or the fact that Dev could've been hated townie (role that requires one vote fewer than majority to lynch).
...

I had no knowledge of such role. This is my second mafia game played ever. The first was the former mafia game held by Charle.

by **hjelp** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 1:56 pm

Loose Canon wrote:Ok Hal I accept we are playing this in good spirit - and mistakes are mistakes which I have made as town in the past.

You made your statement in a one liner in plan sight - and remember there are probably 3 mafia and maybe 1 sk so at least one would almost certainly have picked up on it because there's no shortage of clever players here.

The damage was already done as far as I'm concerned - so you should make a full claim so town has as much information on you as mafia has.
I think so anyway.

@ Loose Canon - Does this mean that you're saying you're a mafia?

by **Loose Canon** on Sat Oct 25, 2025 2:08 pm

No, there are far more clever players than me in this game.

In fact my statistics are appalling.
Most of the time I've got things wrong.
And on the odd occasions I've got things right my faction has still lost.

The tricky thing if you are in my faction is to win despite me.
Maybe that will work a treat this time.

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