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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby hjelp on Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:35 pm

Loose Canon wrote:I'm going to answer that Hjelp - with a question - because you've repeated the question as being unanswered.

What could possibly make a mafia player look more like mafia D1 than jumping onto and being the player that effects a mis lynching?
How can it not make that player prime candidate to then be lynched D2?

Mislynchings do happen and do happen D1 but not quick jump on mislynchings D1.


Aha, you mean that anyone making the lynch-vote will look like mafia and be subject to be lynched D2. That explains EW's answer "
Because it feels like you are the scum trying to speedlynch someone here."
I get the impression of that you three (Devante, LC, EW) want me to stop using votes as leverage.
Though, that can be considered as a mafia-threat on your behalf if it's not a mis lynching.

It was only an idea.
hjelp wrote:@ halrob64
An idea, if you vote Kingman then I will vote too, we vote for leverage and then see what will happen ?
What do you think?

halrob64 wrote:... I did not respond to jhelp he took his own decision, I did not vote unvote, as far as I know my vote is still in place.
just saying ...

I have frequently left clues so you can figure out what townie I can be. You just have to read my words.
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby hjelp on Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:54 pm

BTW, the claim you three being mafias can equaly be a second fraction since LC mentioned two fractions.
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby hjelp on Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:55 pm

but I'm not interested in you three.my consern is strike wolf
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby hjelp on Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:56 pm

concern ...
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:27 pm

SoN!c wrote:Official vote count:

Kingm (4) Extreme Ways, Loose Canon, Devante, Charle




With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

some pot kettle black going on here Loose
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:44 pm

I am aware of that halrob

I was ok with pressure on kingm, how king would deal with it and who would exert the pressure and how was what I was interested in.
And that didn't necessarily have to be a claim at all points between when I voted and king claimed.

You can polish my pot if you want to?
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Ragian on Wed Oct 29, 2025 6:05 pm

Third is a charm: How many claims do you want D1, hjelp?
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby strike wolf on Thu Oct 30, 2025 12:46 am

hjelp wrote:
strike wolf wrote:...

@Hjelp: Giving reads is what you should do in Mafia. If all you do is defend yourself and not give anyrhing else, then youre not really contributing as town.

...


I post a lot, some of it if someone asks me, like you do now, and if that means I'm defending me then I do. Otherwise I post for the best of Town the best I can. You don't bother to answer questions stated.

So, maybe it's time to put pressure on you this time. I sleep during nights and as townie I'm active during daytime. You on the other hand isn't active during daytime so I guess you're awaken all nights under the silver moon.
@ are you then howling?
Unvote Kingm
so again
Vote strike wolf


The part of my response directed at you was directed at your question about why I "redirected" to others. I was stating that I was giving my reads.

I do apologize for the inactivity. I tend to keep busy outside of CC and sometimes even when I have the time to get on, I dont have the mental energy to participate. I dont know how active Ill be able to stay going forward but I dont have as many personal things keeping me busy going into next week or so, so I shouldn't be quite as inactive as I was over this last week or so.

On other topics, the community sword thing is kind of an internal inside joke in Mafia games on CC. It started from some flavor text from my "The Wilds Beyond the Wall". I wrote in a metal marker that wasnt really important, it was just meant to evoke a sense of religious importance of some kind to enrich the mythos. Someone (DDS? Son!c?) interpreted it as a sword and wondered if they were allowed to pick it up and wield it. I made a joke about the sword belonging to that person and now it comes up in a lot of games about who has the community sword. The only game I know of where it had an official ability associated with it wss the previous Son!c hosted game where I was given it as town and could use it as a vig weapon under certain circumstances or give it away. The giving away part kind of acted as a de facto cop investigation as it would come back to me if I tried to give it to scum. Dev's claim on its own looks fairly thin, but Son!c seeming to prove that he has it, points strongly to him being town.

EW/Rag didn't really trip my scum dar from my read through, but its also too early to rule either of them as town. Baiting with the "Strike is scum" reads as more town than scum as he was baiting for a reaction. I would probably have to spend more time to get a feel on EW.

I think Loose has been a bit inconsistent with his suspicions on me from what I saw. He initially voted because he seemed to think Ragian must know something. Then he claimed to be suspicious because I reacted to Ragian's claim. Now hes seeming to say Im suspicious because I actually had a flurry of activity (3 posts over 2 days) early in the day. It would not be the first time that Loose kind of locked in on a person and would change reasons but not give up on the idea of them being scum.

Also, please stop soft claiming roles. Your role in Mafia isnt that dissimilar from your hand in a game of poker. You can bluff with it, you can double bluff, you maybe even occasionally allude to your role being strong or weak, but you always want to be careful about how that info is given out. Mafia tend to benefit more than town from soft claims as they have more info to go off of from the beginning.
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Charle on Thu Oct 30, 2025 2:02 am

Loose Canon wrote:
Ragian wrote:Everybody hold their darn horses with the voting.

We have Devante claiming a PR, we have Kingm claiming a PR. Admittedly, I've only skimmed in order to post this, but no more claims, damnit. We're handing a pick and choose list to scum. Either we lynch from the claimants or we don't lynch.

Will read three latest pages now.


I'm with you on holding horses rag.

I'm interested in seeing what strike says next.

There is also a lot of other stuff to disect short of getting another claim.

Charle - you thanked me for unvoting dev, then applied vote/claim pressure to king.
Care to explain?


Hi Loose, it is easy. When you unvoted Dev, he was on L-1, scum could easily just hammer and get the lynch, which they didn't (we might read something in that) or they already voted. That is why I think it was a good move from you to unvote.

My vote on King was when he had 3 votes, it was good to get him to L-2 to get a claim out of him. He claimed and given the fact that I think this game has some interesting PR roles for everybody, I believed him and unvoted.

However, I do not say that Dev and King is not-guilty, their claimed roles could have been the same but just mafia based, but I don't think we should lynch a potential good town PR either.
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby SoN!c on Thu Oct 30, 2025 3:10 am

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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Thu Oct 30, 2025 4:58 am

@ Charle Ok on first read I'm ok with that

@Strike - feck, I'd been trying to block myself off from Sonics posts for clarity of thought purposes, but your post and your thinking has prompted me to read them, and now I'm caught in the middle of blocking off with cursory read, 1st quick read, and 2nd quick reread (just now).

Now I'm reading them as just 1 mafia faction again, with a 3rd party.

I am however now disagreeing with you re Dev being town having looked at the interaction with Sonic.
I'm seeing him as 3rd party and a chaos agent - I'm interpreting the cryptic nature of the interactions between Sonic and Dev that way.
There's all the I'll let you evade the conditions as you've done it so skillfully stuff from Sonic.
There's the stuff about only being able to be detained by bars of steel, meaning he can't die at night and no results from night investigation.
There's the or touched by ?? hands.
The sword stuff I'm less sure about - I had completely discounted it - but it may be real and he can use it as an investigative power but not disclose the result if it gives a mafia result.
There's the if ? dies early still very tense stuff.
Almost FINALLY there's the if ? dies VERY early the late game might lean slightly ? favoured.

I'm looking at the win prediction percentages and seeing a favouring town over mafia.

Feck does town want a third party in the game? and don't you simplify if the %s are in your favour?

I know its late D1 but I'm going for the VERY early and Town 48-52%, Mafia 35-40%, ? (Devante) 10-15%

unvote Kingm Vote Devante
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:02 am

And feck you too Sonic - you really are a Star of a Bard
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:08 am

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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:20 am

Yes I may well be too Halrob, but my read on Devante whether correct or not is primarily based on the below - and the interactions between Sonic and Devante.

IF my read is correct though it follows to me that Dev should be lynched (D1 - if still possible)

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FYI : An AI analyse of the REID TECHNIQUE MAFIA GAME set-up (forbidden to do as player while alive!) was done before the start to check for unbalances / better suggestions. This was the final verdict before the game went live :

"The Reid technique Mafia Game" is a thematically rich and mechanically balanced 11-player custom setup.
It rewards smart reads, communication, and adaptive play.

Balance Summary
Faction Members Notes
Town (?) ?
Mafia (?) Compact but synergistic toolkit
? (?) Chaos agent preventing hard reads

? (?)
? ("Their leader hides behind odd lies.")
? ("Only detained by ?'s bars of iron grace or touched by ? ? hands, his hunger stills,- but ? undone, and ? worn, he feasts — and always ?.")

→ Win chance estimate:

Town ~48–52%

Mafia ~35–40%

? ~10–15% (?)

Pretty even for skilled players, and very dynamic with multiple overlapping night interactions. High interaction; every role matters; no faction has dominance.
Overall: Highly interactive, balanced within ±5% of neutral expectation.

Late Game Predictions (D5+):

If ? survives, likely 1v1v1 endgame.
If ? dies early, ? vs ? ends 2v3 or 2v2; still very tense.

? victory depend strongly on ? and careful ?.

Balance Verdict

āœ… Strengths

Deep interplay between the power roles — no ā€œuselessā€ powers.

? mechanic introduces strategic deception, not RNG chaos.

Multiple soft counters prevent any single role from dominating.

3 factions keep game tempo fast and dynamic.

āš ļø Potential Weak Spots

If ? chain-protects ? repeatedly, ? can snowball into confusion; ? should be encouraged to intervene and counter.

If ? dies very early, late-game may lean slightly ?-favored.

If ? loses ?-role early, investigative pressure rises sharply.


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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:24 am

What do you want to question;

a. My read on Devante - and whether its a robust read?
b. My take on what we should do if it is robust?
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:31 am

I have been uncomfortable with the exchange in public between Dev and Sonic, it doesn't ring true that you have a set of rules about sharing information that I thought were very strict in these games and then very quickly seem to be dismissed.
I was highly suspicious of Dev when the original lynch vote took place, "I might have to declare myself as town if forced to" never rang true with me.
I was very impressed with Strikes post, regardless of his allegiance I am going to unvote there.
For good or for bad I think Dev will be toast if he is town now and I'm not sure would get protection from whoever has that role but that's only my personal view, greater minds are probably at work regarding that.
So I will unvote Strike and go back to my original vote on Dev
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:32 am

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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:35 am

ok so do so properly Halrob - Bold and Red

Meanwhile lets see what other minds think of my take on Dev, and while this is happening think too about the a. and b. questions in my last post.
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:38 am

Vote Devante
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:08 am

Kong, interpretation when the time is right is your forte.

What do yo think re Devante?
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby SoN!c on Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:28 am

Official vote count:

Strike Wolf: (1) Hjelp
Devante: (2) Loose Canon, Halrob



36 hours left..


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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby hjelp on Thu Oct 30, 2025 6:41 am

@ strike wolf
Thank's for your answer, fair enough.
Unvote strike wolf
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby halrob64 on Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:03 am

I like jhelp he is an equal opportunities lyncher
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Loose Canon on Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:46 am

LOL Funny again halrob
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Re: D1 of The Reid technique Mafia Game

Postby Darin44 on Thu Oct 30, 2025 7:47 am

I didn't like it either

Loose Canon wrote:but my read on Devante whether correct or not is primarily based on the below - and the interactions between Sonic and Devante.


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