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babysealbeater / primeevil [Cleared] KS

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:40 am
by Coxey
The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy



Game number(s):

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... vil60&so=D


Comments: These guys often play together, the game search says it all, they have played once as a triple player game but in general seem to prefer terminators where I guess they can share points.

I first suspected this possible abuse because of illogical behavbior in a terminator game

Re: babysealbeater / primeevil

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:38 am
by TheForgivenOne
Coxey wrote:Accused:
babysealbeater
primevil60

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy



Game number(s):

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... vil60&so=D


Comments: These guys often play together, the game search says it all, they have played once as a triple player game but in general seem to prefer terminators where I guess they can share points.

I first suspected this possible abuse because of illogical behavbior in a terminator game


added in player links

Re: babysealbeater / primeevil

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:41 am
by alster
TheForgivenOne wrote:
Coxey wrote:Accused:
babysealbeater


Wow. That's such a cool user name. Wish I had thought of that. :D

Re: babysealbeater / primeevil

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:58 am
by TheForgivenOne
Also, they got cleared before.

viewtopic.php?t=110679


This may issue a block though. I don't know

Re: babysealbeater / primeevil

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:19 am
by HaireWolf1
Primevil60 has been noted before for conducting secret diplomacy. Primevil60 and sploxy cheated in a game against me a while back and I reported them and it was noted. He was cleared but it was stated to me then that there were very suspicious moves on their parts. They gang up on other players repeatedly. This isn't just an isolated slip-up. It is intentional and primevil60 needs more than a slap on the wrist. It's not fair to those of us who come in here to play a decent respectable game to have friends start games together and team up on opponents in a non-team game.

Also see this in relation to primevil60's exploits: viewtopic.php?f=239&t=116317&p=2572209&hilit=primevil60#p2572209

Re: babysealbeater / primeevil

PostPosted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:43 pm
by Coxey
They have admitted they are brothers in the messages there but they almost never play team games, they're very fond of terminators, they're cheats. There's also a lot of correlation with other accounts though some of those players are quite prolific so it's hard to say if they're involved in cheating but these two definitely are, they're brothers, or the same person pretending he has a brother.

Re: babysealbeater / primeevil

PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:51 pm
by BabySealBeater
mmmm, you know whats better than milk to dunk a delicious cookie into? a glass full of coxey's tears. there's more than enough in this thread to fill one. get real kid, im starting to wonder if you even paid any attention to the game in question. you think i just LET primevil take me out? i tried attacking him on numerous occasions, and blue had plenty of chances to take me out and didnt, dont blame me and primevil for not having the balls to finish the job.

Re: babysealbeater / primeevil

PostPosted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:07 pm
by king sam
pending..

will get to both these SD's tomorrow

Re: babysealbeater / primeevil [pending] KS

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:38 pm
by king sam
aright heres the deal here, and I know many of you arent going to like this but there is not enough evidence to warrant anything more then what I am giving them.

If you think you have something that I didnt see or possibly overlooked, please bring it to the table and it will be looked at and this will be amended if it deems it.

The main 3 accounts that play together are:
babysealbeater
primeevil
nikkig025

and there are a slew of other accounts (friends/family) that all partake in games together too.
The games I found that included someone besides their inner circle are:
Game 6558052
  • AON made a claim against them in this game and ES Cleared it for both Multi and SD. I still concur with his findings after re-evaluating it again today.
Game 6584011
  • I dont know if that Lt Col guys is a friend but the rest of them are that "inner circle" i was referring to and I dont see anything to pin SD on any of them in this game
Game 6840837
  • Oxy is not part of their club and this game is played free and clear of SD as well
Game 7133341
  • same here
Game 7226805
  • your game, you preemptively accused him of being a bad player for not attacking the OP in the game that is not in the regular group that they play in and then you take it back saying you understand cause its terminator. You then attack the 2 accused saying that blue coulda taken out green in 1 turn but when i reviewed the log I didnt see that, and I saw both of them attacking each other quite often. So in summary to this one, you might have drawn them aligning against you and the other player by your chat, and I dont see a SD between them in here either.

After all that and more review in what these accounts are Guilty of I have nothing to support a Block, Bust or Note. I have explained the reasoning above, if you see more post it. This will be Closed and move to the Closed section, but I am still welcoming more insight on this that I may have missed. I will review any and change the ruling if need be.

If you dont want to have the unique opportunity to play with this clan of folks in a game with them in it because you are afraid you might get played against unfairly then use the Foe system, and Coxey rate them accordingly.

Cleared.
KS