Conquer Club

Accused:

Revive



The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

I mean... I wasn't gonna say anything after i played you and saw you had already played 200 games in a week... But, seriously man... You gotta hide it a little better... Top of the improved scoreboards by a mile in your first 16 days... You are an embarrassment to all the hard working multis out there... hopefully you invested in the hotspot shield program that i told you about so they at least can't pinpoint your IP address to the other name you were using...

I mean, honestly...i have a pretty good idea of who you are because there are only so many people that play 200 games a week with the settings that you play... and yeah i know you started with poly with adjacent forts (which i mean c'mon what new player is doing that) but you couldn't help it, had to go back to freestyle assassins... you're an addict...

I need to become a multi-hunter... I see these guys, i check the IP... if it's a fake one (which there are ways to tell if it's a fake IP) or if its REALLY close to someone else's home then i say "hey uh, unmask your IP" or "hey, it looks like you're 'player X'... I'm going to need you to prove that you're not before i unlock your account again"

You know how easy it is to prove who you are? You know how time consuming it would be to make it look like you're someone else? aaaaand busted, sir! took too long! buh bye...

alright anyway happy hunting...

P.S. you're not even killing it, why not just use your normal account... i don't understand you people... if you're gonna be a multi just go all Random21 and make it a sloooow burn so that by the time your account has great stats nobody questions it... brave new world...

i always love these... just pure joy...-Jésus noir

I've never had an account on this website in my entire life!!! I play risk a whole lot in real life, there is nothing different on this site. I read almost every forum topic before I started playing games and got premium. I learned the strategy real quick and read the instructions on every map before playing it. I am a really smart person and learn things quickly, but you wouldn't understand because your to busy trying to accuse innocent people. You can check the IP address and do the things you must do because I KNOW that I have never had another account EVER. I did not do anything wrong besides win a whole lot of games. If I get banned for that, then this website is a piece of ****. I like this website, i think it's very fun but people like you make things less enjoyable. You are accusing me off the fact that I have played many games in a short amount of time. That is simply because I have a lot of time on my hands.

KraphtOne wrote:hopefully you invested in the hotspot shield program that i told you about so they at least can't pinpoint your IP address to the other name you were using

At first I thought you were just recommending this hotspot shield as a nice thing to do. Now i realize you were just trying to be a dick. After I get cleared I would like you to give me an apology before you go accusing some other innocent person.

You seem pretty confident so must have a new IP address... Congrats... But there is zero doubt in my mind, or any logical person's mind, that you've played on this site before...

You're a new player like I've ever been to Australia...



I haven't, and you're not... But It's easy for us to say the opposite, huh?

Stating you're really smart and then making four basic grammar mistakes in your lame speech isn't exactly, well, really smart.

Aren't you even curious if I can guess what your old name was?

I think you'll be impressed... And you'll think "how the hell does he do that"...

And when i show other people they will say "wow yeah that's clearly the same guy"

KraphtOne wrote:Aren't you even curious if I can guess what your old name was?

I think you'll be impressed... And you'll think "how the hell does he do that"...

And when i show other people they will say "wow yeah that's clearly the same guy"

Yes please tell.

Pending

Tell ya what gimme a little time and I'll make this one nice and pretty for ya, all gift-wrapped...

KraphtOne wrote:Tell ya what gimme a little time and I'll make this one nice and pretty for ya, all gift-wrapped...

Oh I can't wait. Christmas comes early this year. I like pretty gift wrapped packages.

ROFLMAO!

Well done Mr. Detective. Random21 is most certainly not a multi.

KoRT's former multihunters have banned a member in the past without bias. He was checked before he was invited to join the clan as a noob so take that theory and eat it. Some players are very talented and I have been there during his learning process and all he played for a long time was Eurasia. There are not many players on this site with the ability to truly concentrate on a map and plan several moves. Being fast at speed games doesn't make you a great player. Remember that! It just means that you're fast.

You're not a nice person Krapht, something that random21 is. You think way too much of yourself as a player. There is no need to try to implicate a player while reporting another.

I have said my piece. Can't wait to see this "gift"

Shannon Apple wrote:ROFLMAO!

Well done Mr. Detective. Random21 is most certainly not a multi.

KoRT's former multihunters have banned a member in the past without bias. He was checked before he was invited to join the clan as a noob so take that theory and eat it. Some players are very talented and I have been there during his learning process and all he played for a long time was Eurasia. There are not many players on this site with the ability to truly concentrate on a map and plan several moves. Being fast at speed games doesn't make you a great player. Remember that! It just means that you're fast.

You're not a nice person Krapht, something that random21 is. You think way too much of yourself as a player. There is no need to try to implicate a player while reporting another.

I have said my piece. Can't wait to see this "gift"

I agree with everything you said...

Wait, what?

I don't even get my own "multi" thread?

You just lazily throw me in at the end?

Not even with reasoning? Like my awesome 76% win rate (although only 75% is legit, I think the 76th percent is because of playing bots - but even they kill me from time to time). Or my ridiculously high score (although I took a recent 300 point drop - don't worry, ill get it back if I decide to.). Or that my win rates on maps like eurasia, kc2, usa 2.1 top 90% so I must be multi?

I mean, lots of this wouldn't even take any effort to write in if one wanted to accuse me of something.

Annnd, whats this about waiting? I was awesome from the start. My account stats have always been nothing sheer of unbelievably good. I've been 65-70% and above since I was a major.

I take it as compliment that the only way for you to reconcile this info is to say I'm multi... but some elaboration please.

Or else I have to write in silly replies like this to toot my own horn, because the Original Post didn't suffice.

oh.. and

I am not a multi. lol

random21 wrote:Wait, what?

I don't even get my own "multi" thread?

You just lazily throw me in at the end?

Not even with reasoning? Like my awesome 76% win rate (although only 75% is legit, I think the 76th percent is because of playing bots - but even they kill me from time to time). Or my ridiculously high score (although I took a recent 300 point drop - don't worry, ill get it back if I decide to.). Or that my win rates on maps like eurasia, kc2, usa 2.1 top 90% so I must be multi?

I mean, lots of this wouldn't even take any effort to write in if one wanted to accuse me of something.

Annnd, whats this about waiting? I was awesome from the start. My account stats have always been nothing sheer of unbelievably good. I've been 65-70% and above since I was a major.

I take it as compliment that the only way for you to reconcile this info is to say I'm multi... but some elaboration please.

Or else I have to write in silly replies like this to toot my own horn, because the Original Post didn't suffice.

oh.. and

I am not a multi. lol

but you are... random!

You know things are going well when a mod takes a thread about an actual multi (ReVive) off topic.

Alright, Enjoy...

Lots of NEW (and I must emphasize, that word) players use paint programs to make an Avatar for themselves, and use different font colors in their signature... Well, not really...

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But his choice of games is what alerted me as to who he is... Keep in mind these are the first settings he ever used...

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Which, sure lots of people play those right? Well once again, not really... But then he started playing THESE and I was certain of it...

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And once you mix in these there can be no doubt...

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So who do i think he is?

DeluxeHazard 4400 games in 17 months, once he became premium he was playing 200 games a week, much like our friend Revive... But lots of players do that... Well, not really...

Here is DH's wall (and no, it is not lost on me of whom those initials remind me... always assumed he played more than one account anyway)... Notice the Paint Shop job on his Avatar and the colorful signature that i apparently cropped out like an idiot...

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And then there's the games he played...

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And these...

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And then there's the, "well how do you explain that coincidence?" one...

[url]http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?gn=&hr=N&np[]=2&mp[]=68&it[]=M&po[]=F&sg[]=1&to=&ScenarioId=&lb=&p1=&p2=&p3=&p4=&order=D&submit=Search&uid=168973&mode=find[/url]
You'll have to Copy and paste because it won't let me put the url in for some reason, but here's a snapshot...

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The only 2 people playing that setting on CC, one stopped and one started...
Looks like he went AWOL and deadbeated a ton of games, then just decided to start over... As he'd probably done before...

Any one of these things by itself is coincidence, but when you put them all together...
Alright I'da done better and added more but It's gettin late and I got beers to drink, feel free to do some of your own investigating peeps... might even discover some more stuff about this guy having prior accounts...

And once again, just to show how little an IP address can tell you... I'll make it look like i live in China for the evening...

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=168973

That deluxehazard doesn t ring a bell at all

Whew looks like Krapht has let me off the hook, agreeing with Shannon on everything.

Krapht, I liked your phrase:

go all random21...

but can you give a more relevant reference for that phrase to be used with some kind of meaning?

Maybe like:

I was a Brigadier, but then I decided to go all random21 and got conqueror until Kaskeval decided he wanted it back. ;D

Or, at I used to play on 50 different maps at any given time, but then I decided to go all random21 and I picked one map and owned it, winning most games to upshoot my score.

I'm happy with my 64-74% win rate, but I wish I could go all random21 and crack 75%.

anyways, your imaginative. I'm sure you could think of something.

betiko wrote:That deluxehazard doesn t ring a bell at all

cause he sucks... but he was still a consistent major... honestly i am pretty sure of who he was before/during that name... but i don't have the evidence to warrant me besmirching a former player/players name/names...

random21 wrote:Whew looks like Krapht has let me off the hook, agreeing with Shannon on everything.

Krapht, I liked your phrase:

go all random21...

but can you give a more relevant reference for that phrase to be used with some kind of meaning?

Maybe like:

I was a Brigadier, but then I decided to go all random21 and got conqueror until Kaskeval decided he wanted it back. ;D

Or, at I used to play on 50 different maps at any given time, but then I decided to go all random21 and I picked one map and owned it, winning most games to upshoot my score.

I'm happy with my 64-74% win rate, but I wish I could go all random21 and crack 75%.

anyways, your imaginative. I'm sure you could think of something.

Yeah i drink and post sometimes, and sometimes it doesn't come off the way I mean it... But I am not saying you are a multi... And I'm sure you did "used to" play on 50 different maps, but I don't know that... because unlucky (or lucky I guess if you're a multi ) for you this site has misplaced thousands of old games...

I am suspicious by nature, comes from the women folk i've been around... Like when some of the high ranks (not talking about you in this case) seem to have ludicrous win % playing only team games with people that (if you were to really look at it) seem to only exist for the sole purpose of teaming with said person... And certain people (once again, clearly this is not you) seem to always be logged on at the same time as their "partners" that they team with... Cheating is rampant here. You have to to have some of these stats. It's a game that is drastically dictated by the luck of a "random" dice program... Call it a competitive advantage, call it what you want... People are cheating... Hundreds of team games played by one player against a team, that's cheating... And it's happening all over the top of the leaderboard...

I assume you're on the same level as Kaskavel and having played him a billion times I know he's a great player and assume you are as well... Kas played hundreds of games before narrowing his parameters down to games that allow his competitive and strategic advantage to outweigh the faulty dice program here...

I meant my comment in a different way than it was perceived, and after reading it I see how I misspoke (typed whatever)... But now that you mention it, If one were to just glance at your games, you did not having a learning curve... Just jumped into the deep end... Started playing boring as hell games against people that didn't know what they were joining and how time consuming the game would be... You're the only guy in the history of Conquer Club to do so... Someone else used to do this right before you started here... But that someone (I believe) also had other accounts on here, because who in their right mind says "hey i want to join this site called conquer club and play 4 games at a time that take a month apiece to finish for 20 points max"...

But like I also said (typed whatever) we'll never know what your first 50 games were because the site has deleted the records... I just want you to know though, from the bottom of my heart... I couldn't care less... The games you play are so different than the games most people play, that we might as well be on different websites...

But this thread wasn't/isn't about you... Sorry that I included you... Go back to your 5 team games and 4 "this will take a year settings" games... People "used to" give KH so much garbage that they even changed rules because he was so good at his settings... Perhaps one day they'll do the same for you and make you play more than one map, that nobody has any interest in playing...

Yeah, I've had enough beers... Random, I think you're KiIIface dude... Have for a while... Alright K1 out...

I played Killface once, but I assure you I am not killface

I'm surprised you picked him. Looking at your analysis. If you go off of games played, Killface and I had completely different game types. I mean like... c o m p l e t e l y different.

I guess the only way you could think of it as working, is that he has been away for a while.. but when the multi test was run on me, he would have been around. And if someone were to come back... they would just not play similar game types to avoid suspicion?

Do you have any other thoughts??

I mean like thoughts where you have the effort put it in for whoever this thread is about. Where you can rhyme off lists of games and stuff.

Not because it would mean anything... I'd just get a kick out of it.

I have no problem with clearing out multi's, if you were correct about this guy, good for you.

See I have knowledge that I will clear every accusation of being a multi because I'm not one. But if you can clear out 10 multi's with a few misses, hey, go ahead.

random21 wrote:but when the multi test was run on me,

Lol.. yeah i think i've done enough to prove how little an IP address can show... alrighty I'm to bed now... think i'll live in the UK for the rest of the evening... Fly the British flag...

oh, and by the way. I actually don't care about you putting me in the thread...

As for more of a response of your post, I have slowed down. I never played more than 20-30 games at a time. And they've been ranged. Originally it was eurasia unlimited sunny 1 v 1etc etc, which can easily get anyone to major/colonel. You should win 95-99% of games you get first turn in, and then the one's you don't get first turn in outplay 50% of your opponents and you'll end up on top.
I played mostly 1 v 1. But maps like brazil players start at 15 terries each, first player goes gets 5 deploy, and 1 territory taken drops opponent to 4 deploy so advantage. I actually won something like almost perfect record on brazil, or maybe 8 wins out of 9, or 10 out of 11 I dunno. But it wasn't balanced so I dropped it. Eurasia unlimited I had several games that went into 30+ rounds of legitimate gameplay, and many more than last 20+ rounds. For a 1 v 1 that was quite good and was impressed with quality of the map making in Eurasia. Eurasia unlimited 1 v 1 can end as quickly as 5-8 rounds... it is true. But it had potential unlike many other maps.

Of course I select my maps. Generally I prefer larger maps. I don't care whether you think they are boring, USA 2.1 on my settings is one of the most balanced interesting games I've found on here when it is played right. I'm sorry if a risk game taking a long time discredits its validity for you. The statement only wreaks mildly of intellectual dishonesty. It is like saying all posts should be kept to 140 characters because no one has the mental capacity any more to read anything longer. Almost a joke in itself to even present the claim.

The point about winning 20 points a game... well btw getting 20 points in a game for any person at my score is a dream. I average 7 points a game regardless of what map I play. Simply by nature of my score. My score is only a mild motivator. Something to do. The game interests me. I own 95% of actual risk games made. And most games on here compared to those are nothing. Those games are actually hard. Despite the dice calculator on here, those games all have incorporated game components that make them wildly imbalanced and amazingly fun. The main enjoyable thing here, is the Fog component which has no valid comparison in real life, and the size of the map... namely the larger the map the better for me. Despite the interesting twists present in hasbro risk games and the others, they -for the most part save may 7-9?- copy the classic map with different names. The good one's give you something other than the australia south america dilemma. But even a few of the one's that copy the classic map are quite well made.

Majority of people on this site probably play classic map. Which in my view is a waste. The classic map isn't even balance. There is south america... and australia. Europe and Asia you'll never hold. Africa and North America also not exactly options. Iberia was pretty fun though. And lots of maps on here are. lots of people on here seem to play doodle earth, and speed games... Which I could retort to be equally as boring and senseless reason to join this site if I wanted I suppose.

Eurasia was a map I could win or lose on, and always have a great time playing it. Seeing how people played it unlimited, flat rate, no spoils etc. dubs trips 1 v 1 , even quads all created good switch up.

Like I said.. I agree. There was no learning curve. I was always great But ... of course there were some adjustments to make compared to rl risk.

Guys, it was good to see your little reunion, but if you have anything else to say to each other please take it to another forum or PM.

And leave this thread for evidence.

Makes it much easier for the MH team.

Thanks