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Multi count [Busted +1]

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:18 am
by Rickx
Accused:

The Economist
Eduardo da Silva




The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis


Game number(s):

Game 4714091
Game 4714890
Game 4714048
Game 4707475

and more....



Comments:

In my game I one of them was the oportunity of atacking the other, and didnt do that... I start feeling that something is wrong... I went to the log and see that both players have same nationality, when one plays, the other plays right next minute... I say other games of them and they do the same...

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:13 pm
by Cupid24-HC
i Have a dubs game 4720588. SkitteringScamp. SkitteringScales. They both put 5 stars for eachother and for maurum. just saying

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:12 pm
by Tisha
Cupid24-HC wrote:i Have a dubs game 4720588. SkitteringScamp. SkitteringScales. They both put 5 stars for eachother and for maurum. just saying

SkitteringScamp and SkitteringScales have already been cleared.. what does it have to do with this case anyways?

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:08 pm
by *Pixar*
yup i can tell its a multi

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:33 pm
by Masli
why would they pay for 2 accounts???? they will prob. now each other
but Conducting Secret Diplomacy for sure

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:50 pm
by king sam
Hard to get a good read with the Fog, and one (the last game quoted) being in round 1.

Conquerstats definitely show the 2 not really favoring each other in the attacks department as much as they are favoring other players. But this could be a product of troop placement or bonus acquirement's.

I cant give you much of a read until the game is finished, in which time I would need to reconstruct to see if they favored one another less often then others. But assuming the case is ruled upon in your favor more then likely with this being the 1st offense between the 2 they will be WARNED and future involvement that raises the same sort of eyebrow of the 2 will get them BLOCKED from playing in games together.

Good Luck
KS

EDIT:
A while back Eduardo da Silva apparently disgusted with CC said he was going to quit (here)
Eduardo da Silva wrote:Thank you for your efforts. Bye!
I'm anyway quitting the CC, so it doesn't really matter now is he just inexperienced or a backstabber.


If this is the case and its apparent the 2 are friends you could have one user that is using 2 accounts, if Eduardo da Silva did in fact quit and gave his user access to The Economist. An IP check will be ran on the accounts, and it wont be hard to find this out.
For the record they have played in 12 games together, all Foggy. Easier to hide being a multi in the fog. Who knows

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:11 pm
by SkitteringScamp
Cupid24-HC wrote:i Have a dubs game 4720588. SkitteringScamp. SkitteringScales. They both put 5 stars for eachother and for maurum. just saying


Well now Cupid, you actually don't have a doubles game with my cousin or I, as the game you are talking about involved another player on mauroms team, meditry. And unless you happen to be this meditry, and think your playing warrants a positive review I suggest you avoid bringing up pointless and unfounded accusations that have absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

And thanks Tisha, I remember you from my first day here.

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:28 am
by The Economist
=D>

You did your job well, and the logic is sound. So, I'll tell you what's going on (it can easily be checked).

I created The Economist account on:
Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:58 pm

I made as high as Captain. However, more and more I became angry with the game engine. You can argue randomness as you wish, but there is a NATURE law:
- when you toss a coin, you have 50% to get any result
- when you toss it for the second time, the chance is NEVER again 50%
Yet, in CC every dice toss is a separate event (am I wrong?)
Some results that we get in battles are theoretically close to impossible to get.

So, I stopped playing without ending the games in progress, and the account became a Cook.
Then I decided to give it another fresh start, so I created new account Eduardo da Silva.
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 1:44 am
Soon enough I made a Lieutenant. However, this game engine made another horror story, so I quit the game completely, keeping the rank.

After almost a year, I tried once more - to see if something improved. I created a third (free) account, CROscout
Joined: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:15 am
This is my statistics:
Rank: Sergeant 1st Class Sergeant 1st Class
Score: 1480
Games: 41 completed, 20 (49%) won
Then I took a challenge: let's see if I can revive the old account. Within a week I made it from Cook to Sergeant. You can easily find out that I NEVER had those three accounts in the same game!

Well, since the game didn't improve, and also some team games went crazy (our teammate was attacking us), I get mad and decided to exit the game with the style: to join some games as a secret double and see how would a multi look like.

Wining like that is too easy, so actually there is nothing more to keep me in the CC. It's a pity that you cannot find a mathematical/computer model which will simulate statistical probabilities with more realism...

I will try to finish all the games I'm in, but won't care if you block me...

Good bye!

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:50 am
by *Pixar*
triple account

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:26 am
by The Economist
no, you didn't read carefully - they never played together

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:29 am
by Masli
then you don't understand, you said you created 3 accounts, so triple account is correct.

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:46 am
by The Economist
This is "cheating and abuse" section. How can you cheat if your accounts NEVER meet in a single game?

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:57 am
by Masli
Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games or are even in use. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=rules

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:08 am
by the.killing.44
Masli wrote:Rule #1: No multiple accounts

Multiple accounts are discovered by routine scans and community cheating reports. They are strictly forbidden whether or not they play in the same games or are even in use. If you suspect certain accounts belong to the same person, please report it following the instructions at the top of the Cheating & Abuse Reports forum.

http://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=rules

Read the bold underline.
.44

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:34 am
by apey
How nice of him to bust himself
I am sure the hunters will b grateful

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:44 am
by CROscout
Bust myself?

No, I'm leaving CC for good - and this multis are my exit strategy: not to be tempted to come back ever again. ;) :lol:

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:45 am
by Eduardo da Silva
It is I, leclerc... 8-)

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:07 am
by lancehoch

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:26 pm
by ManBungalow
lancehoch wrote:Eduardo da Silva and The Economist are Busted with CROscout.

Eduardo da Silva and The Economist are still Registered Users ??

(Don't ask why I happened to check those)

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:59 pm
by Rickx
CROscout wrote:Bust myself?

No, I'm leaving CC for good - and this multis are my exit strategy: not to be tempted to come back ever again. ;) :lol:




See ? It wasnt dificcult to finish the game! Do you have fun? I think not...

I've read your post, and it seems that you like CC...

You must keep playing... this is only for fun (for me...)

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:13 pm
by Darwins_Bane
ManBungalow wrote:
lancehoch wrote:Eduardo da Silva and The Economist are Busted with CROscout.

Eduardo da Silva and The Economist are still Registered Users ??

(Don't ask why I happened to check those)

there guests now....maybe it was a lag in the system or something

Re: Multi count

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:18 pm
by Palinathas
The Economist wrote:=D>



I made as high as Captain. However, more and more I became angry with the game engine. You can argue randomness as you wish, but there is a NATURE law:
- when you toss a coin, you have 50% to get any result
- when you toss it for the second time, the chance is NEVER again 50%
Yet, in CC every dice toss is a separate event (am I wrong?)
Some results that we get in battles are theoretically close to impossible to get.



I just want to interject here, EVERY time you toss a coin, the chance of it being heads or tails is 50%, no matter how many times you have tossed it before. If I toss a coin 100 times, and each of those 100 times is heads, it is STILL 50% chance to get heads or tails the next toss.