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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I]

Postby oaktown on Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:48 am

I'm fine with making the victory condition difficult, especially given the possible drops in 2/3 player games.

work out the white color with the graphics people. The way you have described the split region in the inset map works but it looks like crud... again, I'll let the graphics folks deal with that.

move along.
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I]

Postby pamoa on Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:49 am

Imagetx oaktown 8-)

I'll work something about white...
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby iancanton on Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:33 pm

the change in the sea colour is a step in the right direction, though i prefer the water to have even less magenta in it than just now.

i don't know whether having great britain on the map is an improvement. would it look better if it was replaced by water?

for the bordering states, rather than solid brownish colours, try using white with a bright-coloured inner glow for each continent, like the ireland map.

http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/Ireland.S.jpg

this will preserve an immediately-obvious visual difference between empire continents (which are solid colours) and non-empire continents.

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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby pamoa on Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:28 am

iancanton wrote:The change in the sea colour is a step in the right direction, though I prefer the water to have even less magenta in it than just now.

To me there is no megenta in it but I'll check

iancanton wrote:I don't know whether having great britain on the map is an improvement. would it look better if it was replaced by water?

I must say I prefer it like this and as it is clearly not a playable part of the map I prefer to keep it.

gimil wrote:The "white" coloured continent im uphappy with. The colour dosnt sit well with the rest of the maps colour scheme. I feel it needs to be made a colours the same density of the far east continent so that it balances the scheme your using.

iancanton wrote:For the bordering states, rather than solid brownish colours, try using white with a bright-coloured inner glow for each continent, like the ireland map. This will preserve an immediately-obvious visual difference between empire continents (which are solid colours) and non-empire continents.

Ireland map doesn't fit anymore in the coloblind policy of this comunity, I'm allready trying to do a similar map (France 1789) but it is a real fight. From the beginning this map has been based on full color regions. The difference was based on color vs grey-brownish regions for empire and bordering states. But I cannot use the East Europe tone as you wouldn't know where it end between Prussia and Danmark. Again I'll work on it and try to do better with it without changing the entire color scheme.
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Holy Roman Empire 1648 - v31 [I,Gp]

Postby pamoa on Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:17 pm

sea color, west europe color

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now what should be done to get the graphic stamp?
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby ZeakCytho on Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:57 pm

I really don't like how Britain is floating there. Could you at make it solid, but fill with a grey color so it's clearly not playable?
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby whitestazn88 on Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:53 pm

i think the cannons are too bright compared to the whole vibe of the map
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby pamoa on Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:15 am

whitestazn88 wrote:i think the cannons are too bright compared to the whole vibe of the map

They were thought as bright as armies are because if I fade them, their color tend to be difficult to distinguish.

ZeakCytho wrote:I really don't like how Britain is floating there. Could you at make it solid, but fill with a grey color so it's clearly not playable?

Britain again, well what I can do is adding a border line but I cannot fill it, I allready try it and it seems playable.
But if it is still an issue then I'll remove it as it was in some previous version.
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby bryguy on Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:13 pm

1) Like most people have said, the cannons are a little big
2) I like the mountains, but they all look to much alike
3) could u make the bridges blend into the land more at the ends?
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby pamoa on Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:14 am

bryguy wrote:Like most people have said, the cannons are a little big.

I will try smaller but on the small map they will be very small.

bryguy wrote:I like the mountains, but they all look to much alike.

What do you mean by that ?

bryguy wrote:could u make the bridges blend into the land more at the ends ?

I'll try.
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:27 pm

pamoa wrote:
bryguy wrote:I like the mountains, but they all look to much alike.

What do you mean by that ?


I think he wants more variation in orientation and size, regarding the mountains, as the majority of them seem to be from the same base image (if they are different at all).


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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby pamoa on Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:16 am

bryguy wrote:I like the mountains, but they all look to much alike.

AndyDufresne wrote:I think he wants more variation in orientation and size, regarding the mountains, as the majority of them seem to be from the same base image (if they are different at all).

Do you really think I should spend an entire day redoing all the mountains ?
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby Androidz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:38 am

my first look at this map i actully mistake the black continent as the backround could you make it more visible that it isint a part of the background?

And to fix the montion issue most people as stated i think its a easy fix on that problem. (I like the montions) I dont see any need for the montion above permont i think you should move it...
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby pamoa on Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:48 am

Androidz wrote:...And to fix the montion issue most people as stated i think its a easy fix on that problem. (I like the montions) I dont see any need for the montion above permont i think you should move it...

Sorry, but what are you talking about ?!?
Should I read mountains for montion and Piemont for permont ?
If it is the case then the mountains above Piemont are where the Mont Blanc sits (you know the highest mountain of Europe).
So I think it will remain.
About fixing the problem, tell me how!
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby Androidz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:52 am

pamoa wrote:
Androidz wrote:...And to fix the montion issue most people as stated i think its a easy fix on that problem. (I like the montions) I dont see any need for the montion above permont i think you should move it...

Sorry, but what are you talking about ?!?


You see the Montions Above Piemont? Remove them.
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby multiplayertim on Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:58 am

Androidz wrote:
pamoa wrote:
Androidz wrote:...And to fix the montion issue most people as stated i think its a easy fix on that problem. (I like the montions) I dont see any need for the montion above permont i think you should move it...

Sorry, but what are you talking about ?!?


You see the Montions Above Piemont? Remove them.


why do you want them removed?
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby Androidz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:17 am

multiplayertim wrote:
Androidz wrote:
pamoa wrote:
Androidz wrote:...And to fix the montion issue most people as stated i think its a easy fix on that problem. (I like the montions) I dont see any need for the montion above permont i think you should move it...

Sorry, but what are you talking about ?!?


You see the Montions Above Piemont? Remove them.


why do you want them removed?


It has no real purpose, and to many of the mountains is placed on one place. And thats why most is complaining about look alike.
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby pamoa on Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:28 am

Androidz wrote:...And to fix the montion issue most people as stated i think its a easy fix on that problem. (I like the montions) I dont see any need for the montion above permont i think you should move it...

Should I read mountains for montion and Piemont for permont ?
If it is the case then the mountains above Piemont are where the Mont Blanc sits (you know the highest mountain of Europe).
So I think it will remain.
About fixing the problem, tell me how!
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby Androidz on Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:41 am

pamoa wrote:
Androidz wrote:...And to fix the montion issue most people as stated i think its a easy fix on that problem. (I like the montions) I dont see any need for the montion above permont i think you should move it...

Should I read mountains for montion and Piemont for permont ?
If it is the case then the mountains above Piemont are where the Mont Blanc sits (you know the highest mountain of Europe).
So I think it will remain.
About fixing the problem, tell me how!


Hmm no. Didint know you was useing a well know mountain there. To bad i think that ruins the map a bit well then i you have to make other mountains nothing else to do:(
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - V30 Pg.1 and 15 - 12July08 [I,Gp]

Postby iancanton on Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:46 am

the water colour is just perfect now.

pamoa wrote:Should I read mountains for montion and Piemont for permont ?
If it is the case then the mountains above Piemont are where the Mont Blanc sits (you know the highest mountain of Europe).
So I think it will remain.

that's a very good reason to keep the mountains! it must also be the reason why piemont has that name (pied = foot, mont = mountain).

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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - v31 - 01sep2008 [I,Gp]

Postby pamoa on Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:25 am

grayhawke wrote:Hi,
I'm afraid personal circumstances have forced me to curtail much of my web-based activities including cc. :(
If you could get admin to sort out the HRE thread that would be much appreciated.
Hopefully things will take an upswing in the not too distant future and then in the words of the great AS "I'll be back"


We all hope grayhawke can come back soon, until then I will administrate this thread.
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - v31 - 01sep2008 [I,Gp]

Postby mibi on Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:46 pm

The continents have no names, which is kinda lame.
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - v31 - 01sep2008 [I,Gp]

Postby pamoa on Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:49 pm

pamoa wrote:...the mountains above Piemont are where the Mont Blanc sits (you know the highest mountain of Europe). So I think it will remain...

Androidz wrote:Hmm no. Didint know you was useing a well know mountain there. To bad i think that ruins the map a bit well then i you have to make other mountains nothing else to do:(

And by the way "Schweizerische Eidgenossenchaft" mean Helvetic Confederation the official name of Switzerland which is surrounded by mountains, as you surely know. And as I'm swiss I'm quite touchy about being precise about it.

mibi wrote:The continents have no names, which is kinda lame.

I agree but I do not have any nice names for them, as now they are:
    Four empire "regions":
    - HRE north.....territories=9.....bonus=4
    - HRE west......territories=7.....bonus=3
    - HRE south.....territories=5.....bonus=3
    - HRE east.......territories=8.....bonus=5
    Three bordering states "regions"
    - Europe west...territories=4.....bonus=3
    - Europe south..territories=5.....bonus=3
    - Europe east...territories=4.....bonus=2
any suggestions also about where to put them
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - v31 - 01sep2008 [I,Gp] COMMENTS PLZ

Postby pamoa on Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:01 pm

Is there anybody out there, please I need some suggestions for this continents names issue.....
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Re: Holy Roman Empire 1648 - v31 - 01sep2008 [I,Gp] COMMENTS PLZ

Postby eigenvector on Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:37 am

pamoa wrote:Is there anybody out there, please I need some suggestions for this continents names issue.....


Can you please post the current version of the map? I saw the one on p.1 of the thread but it has probably changed since...
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