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New forum minus militant atheists, conspiracy theorists, forum rules violaters?

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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby CrazyAnglican on Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:02 pm

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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Ray Rider on Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:05 pm

Snorri1234 wrote:
Dancing Mustard wrote:Now now, no need to be impatient.

I've submitted my application and I'm ready to give this organisation a fair chance to consider its merits before coming to a final decision.

Do we know how many (and who) are members yet by the way? Are many of us waiting to be notified?


Well I checked the memberlist but aside from GT it seems basically only christians.

Haggis_McMutton is a member of the clan. Are you calling him a Christian? Actually he's also a member of your clan, the Godless heathen :roll: How about Smokingdude420? Nope, he's a pagan. How about Grimreaper? Or Nobunga, Wcaclimbing, Xerro, Optimus Prime, Protectedbygold, Blackelkspeaks, Iz man, Got tankaed, John9blue, Grooveman2007, TheLucas, LocutusofBorg01, Deronimo, or the Fuzzy Pengui? They're all members of the new clan. Are they Christians? If so, it's news to me.
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CrazyAnglican wrote:Hi folks,

Sorry, for not getting back to everyone immediately. We've had lots of people applying and given that all three mods have to agree on each person it slows things down a bit (we're handling it through pm discussions). The idea right now is to start small as we organize and build the community. So, if we haven't gotten back to you it isn't that you've been denied. It's probably just inefficiency on my part. :oops:


DAMN YOU AND YOUR NICE APOLOGIES!


Seriously, why can't you be a mod that isn't liked? :P

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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Snorri1234 on Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:25 pm

Ray Rider wrote:
Well I checked the memberlist but aside from GT it seems basically only christians.

Haggis_McMutton is a member of the clan. Are you calling him a Christian? Actually he's also a member of your clan, the Godless heathen :roll: How about Smokingdude420? Nope, he's a pagan. How about Grimreaper? Or Nobunga, Wcaclimbing, Xerro, Optimus Prime, Protectedbygold, Blackelkspeaks, Iz man, Got tankaed, John9blue, Grooveman2007, TheLucas, LocutusofBorg01, Deronimo, or the Fuzzy Pengui? They're all members of the new clan. Are they Christians? If so, it's news to me. [/quote]

Haggis can't have been a member for long, otherwise he would've told us so.


And all those others, with the exception of Smokingdude (no longer in our clan for some reason), are not exactly atheists. I mean, Grooveman is actually a Christian but whatever. Not to mention that TheLucas and John9blue probably are too, though they may not be members of the JF. (Shocking suprise, not every christian is a member!)


Regardless, there also seems to be a major focus on the more right-wing conservative angle. Except for GT, I haven't seen much of what I'd call balance there. (Excluding mods because mods are generally carefull with their posts, which is logical.)



And still, apart from Haggis (who's on sort of a holiday or something) none of your members are actually members of the GH.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby got tonkaed on Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:15 pm

To be fair i am both dreamy and very civil, so i am universally adored.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby CrazyAnglican on Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:28 pm

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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Juan_Bottom on Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:02 pm

CrazyAnglican wrote:Hi folks,

Sorry, for not getting back to everyone immediately. We've had lots of people applying and given that all three mods have to agree on each person it slows things down a bit (we're handling it through pm discussions). The idea right now is to start small as we organize and build the community. So, if we haven't gotten back to you it isn't that you've been denied. It's probably just inefficiency on my part. :oops:



Shouldn't everyone be allowed in, and the mods would have to agree to kick them out?
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Neoteny on Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:09 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
CrazyAnglican wrote:Hi folks,

Sorry, for not getting back to everyone immediately. We've had lots of people applying and given that all three mods have to agree on each person it slows things down a bit (we're handling it through pm discussions). The idea right now is to start small as we organize and build the community. So, if we haven't gotten back to you it isn't that you've been denied. It's probably just inefficiency on my part. :oops:



Shouldn't everyone be allowed in, and the mods would have to agree to kick them out?


That would make the most sense to me... however it seems they want a method of keeping people out.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby pimpdave on Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:32 pm

I wouldn't mind joining this forum.

I far prefer civility in my discourse.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Smokingdude420 on Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:39 pm

Juan_Bottom wrote:
CrazyAnglican wrote:Hi folks,

Sorry, for not getting back to everyone immediately. We've had lots of people applying and given that all three mods have to agree on each person it slows things down a bit (we're handling it through pm discussions). The idea right now is to start small as we organize and build the community. So, if we haven't gotten back to you it isn't that you've been denied. It's probably just inefficiency on my part. :oops:



Shouldn't everyone be allowed in, and the mods would have to agree to kick them out?

I've already talked to CA about allowing you and a few other people in but all the leaders have to approve and we all know because we have put elk fag in his place over and over again he wont allow anyone from the DBC
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby black elk speaks on Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:14 am

Smokingdude420 wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:
CrazyAnglican wrote:Hi folks,

Sorry, for not getting back to everyone immediately. We've had lots of people applying and given that all three mods have to agree on each person it slows things down a bit (we're handling it through pm discussions). The idea right now is to start small as we organize and build the community. So, if we haven't gotten back to you it isn't that you've been denied. It's probably just inefficiency on my part. :oops:



Shouldn't everyone be allowed in, and the mods would have to agree to kick them out?

I've already talked to CA about allowing you and a few other people in but all the leaders have to approve and we all know because we have put elk fag in his place over and over again he wont allow anyone from the DBC


give me a break. you are antagonists. you attack and ridicule people. I think you should be removed.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:18 am

Firstly, who did I attack?
Secondly, if I did, it was outside of the civil forum, and only a fight or flight response that someone else brought out of me. You can't hold us up to your rules if we aren't in your forum. Certainly the other coffeeshop mods agree?
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby black elk speaks on Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:23 am

Juan_Bottom wrote:Firstly, who did I attack?
Secondly, if I did, it was outside of the civil forum, and only a fight or flight response that someone else brought out of me. You can't hold us up to your rules if we aren't in your forum. Certainly the other coffeeshop mods agree?


i definitely don't think that you are rational enough to be involved in a serious forum. for starters, I wasn't talking to you. secondly, you are apt to get aggressive when people disagree with you. you generally get insulting and pushy and i found that irritating. (i am referring to the dead dog thread.)
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Ray Rider on Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:46 am

Snorri1234 wrote:And all those others, with the exception of Smokingdude (no longer in our clan for some reason), are not exactly atheists.

Smokingdude never was a member of GH (as far as I know) because he's pagan. I don't know very much about most of the people in the new clan, but Got Tankaed says he's athiest.
Snorri1234 wrote:I mean, Grooveman is actually a Christian but whatever.

Hmm yeah, I just found that out. As I said, it's news to me!
Snorri1234 wrote:Not to mention that TheLucas and John9blue probably are too, though they may not be members of the JF.

Really? I never knew that...although I am still getting to know a lot of the people around here.
Snorri1234 wrote:(Shocking suprise, not every christian is a member!)

Obviously.

Snorri1234 wrote:Regardless, there also seems to be a major focus on the more right-wing conservative angle. Except for GT, I haven't seen much of what I'd call balance there. (Excluding mods because mods are generally careful with their posts, which is logical.) And still, apart from Haggis (who's on sort of a holiday or something) none of your members are actually members of the GH.

GH isn't a very big clan (25 members). JF is a massive clan (207 members). Logically there would be larger representation from the JF than from the GH, just as there would be in any other clan like the Freemium Forces or whatever.

Secondly, new members aren't being chosen according to their beliefs or whether they are liberal orconservative--they're chosen because they've been respectful to others, they aren't conspiracy nuts, and they don't break the forum rules. I don't think there's any other criteria. As one of the mods has already said, it's taking a while for all three of them to agree on who to let it; I'm sure there will be more GH allowed in who fit the three criteria above.

Thirdly, Juan Bottom, Neotony, Mpjh, HapSmo19, Skittles, and you (all of whom are GH members) started out in opposition to this clan and tried to shoot it down from the start. Now that it's up and running, a few of you want to join. Clearly the mods have good reason to be cautious about letting you in. Haggis has always been very positive about the clan, and guess what? He's in.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Iliad on Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:15 am

Visaoni wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Dancing Mustard wrote:Now now, no need to be impatient.

I've submitted my application and I'm ready to give this organisation a fair chance to consider its merits before coming to a final decision.

Do we know how many (and who) are members yet by the way? Are many of us waiting to be notified?


Well I checked the memberlist but aside from GT it seems basically only christians. Though either DangerBoy got banned (suprise!) or he was excluded from joining anyway.


I guess I'll submit my application too.


I think I'll give it a shot as well.
I've submitted and hope I won't get rejected on the the fact that I'm supposedly a militant atheist :lol:
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Skittles! on Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:50 am

Ray Rider wrote:Thirdly, Juan Bottom, Neotony, Mpjh, HapSmo19, Skittles, and you (all of whom are GH members) started out in opposition to this clan and tried to shoot it down from the start. Now that it's up and running, a few of you want to join. Clearly the mods have good reason to be cautious about letting you in. Haggis has always been very positive about the clan, and guess what? He's in.

If you read my posts, yes I was against it because I thought it would fail, but I was still going to give it a chance. Possibly the only thing that's not allowing me in is BES, and maybe the other one {Not CA}. I've told CA that BES and I do not get along, and after I put in my application, I noticed BES was one of the three mods for the forum discussion group people, I then contacted CA that I wish to not be part of the group due to BES and I clashing, but CA still would like me to be so I can keep Luns in line. xD

If I don't get in, I know why. I still think that BES is a hypocrite, so by saying that and if I don't get in, some people need a serious check on their thinking.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:34 am

Ray Rider wrote:Really? I never knew that...although I am still getting to know a lot of the people around here.

John9 is a Christian.

black elk speaks wrote:i definitely don't think that you are rational enough to be involved in a serious forum. for starters, I wasn't talking to you. secondly, you are apt to get aggressive when people disagree with you. you generally get insulting and pushy and i found that irritating. (i am referring to the dead dog thread.)

Don't be stupid. You're the guy who starts the FW threads, I never have. That's the pot calling the kettle black.
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Ray Rider wrote:Secondly, new members aren't being chosen according to their beliefs or whether they are liberal orconservative--they're chosen because they've been respectful to others, they aren't conspiracy nuts, and they don't break the forum rules.

How is that fair? The rules out here are differant than they are out here. I can't help but feel like you all are putting on an air of "I'm better than them."
I don't get why you don't give people a chance to fail by you're rules. You civility seems to be lacking.


Ray Rider wrote:Thirdly, Juan Bottom, Neotony, Mpjh, HapSmo19, Skittles, and you (all of whom are GH members) started out in opposition to this clan and tried to shoot it down from the start. Now that it's up and running, a few of you want to join. Clearly the mods have good reason to be cautious about letting you in.

I doubt it. None of the reasons I gave for being oppossed to it even exist anymore. You all fixed them.

Skittles! wrote: Possibly the only thing that's not allowing me in is BES,

Ditto.... I like CA

Skittles! wrote:If I don't get in, I know why. I still think that BES is a hypocrite, so by saying that and if I don't get in, some people need a serious check on their thinking.

Agreed.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Dancing Mustard on Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:50 am

Hang on, what is DBC? I can't place the acronym to a name...
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:57 am

Dancing Mustard wrote:Hang on, what is DBC? I can't place the acronym to a name...


A clan, of which I am part.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby daddy1gringo on Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:01 am

If it makes any of the GH's feel better, I haven't been approved yet either and I'm, well, you know.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:08 am

daddy1gringo wrote:If it makes any of the GH's feel better, I haven't been approved yet either and I'm, well, you know.


Oh no my friend. But I'm not of the opinion that we are being denied because we are Athiests. CA is one of the mods and he's a good guy. I doubt that he would allow that kinda thing to bar our entry. I still hold hope that we will all be allowed in.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Dancing Mustard on Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:18 am

...and what exactly is the mission statement / raison d'etre of Death by Comity?
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Juan_Bottom on Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:23 am

Dancing Mustard wrote:...and what exactly is the mission statement / raison d'etre of Death by Comity?

Nothing too specific. We are friends that met on CC. We are competative.
But we also have an "all for one one for all mentality." Elk flamed some members.... you can infer what happened there.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby Snorri1234 on Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:02 pm

Ray Rider wrote:GH isn't a very big clan (25 members). JF is a massive clan (207 members). Logically there would be larger representation from the JF than from the GH, just as there would be in any other clan like the Freemium Forces or whatever.

You're probably right. Though I must say that the vocal people in Chatter Box are far more evenly distributed.
Secondly, new members aren't being chosen according to their beliefs or whether they are liberal orconservative--they're chosen because they've been respectful to others, they aren't conspiracy nuts, and they don't break the forum rules. I don't think there's any other criteria. As one of the mods has already said, it's taking a while for all three of them to agree on who to let it; I'm sure there will be more GH allowed in who fit the three criteria above.

As Juan said, why are you excluding people from joining when the rules in the rest of the forum are different? Why wouldn't you let people in to see whether they're able to play by your rules?
Thirdly, Juan Bottom, Neotony, Mpjh, HapSmo19, Skittles, and you (all of whom are GH members) started out in opposition to this clan and tried to shoot it down from the start. Now that it's up and running, a few of you want to join. Clearly the mods have good reason to be cautious about letting you in.


We said it wouldn't work, we never said that we didn't want to join.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby CrazyAnglican on Tue Sep 02, 2008 4:43 pm

Whoa hey guys,

There's alot of conjecture going on here. We're discussing things and all have full time jobs to boot. Sorry if we're not getting back quickly, but don't immediately think that this guy or that is the reason you're not getting in. We each have a different idea about who to admit and when, and the idea of having three mods is specifically to hold down decisions based on personality conflicts and the like.

Right now I'm in favor of holding things down to a small number of people, just because it's easier to runs things with a small group while we are organizing. That doesn't mean that others will not eventually be invited in (it's certainly no fun arguing with people that agree with you all the time). Don't jump to conclusions; I've certainly said "Not yet" to more new members than BES. It isn't that we don't want you in; it's only that we're trying to make sure the environment is the best it can be when you arrive. Just be patient; this is new for us.
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Re: A new private civil discussion forum

Postby daddy1gringo on Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:00 pm

Juan, DM, Neo, Snorri, you're slipping. I was sure by now one of you would have done this:
one-of-you wrote:
daddy1gringo wrote:If it makes any of the GH's feel better, I haven't been approved yet either and I'm, well, you know.
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