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Postby Ishmael_yoder on Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:43 pm

Why do Rogue state clan use the phrase In hoc signo vinces?
Just curious.
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Postby XenHu on Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:48 pm

Ishmael_yoder wrote:Why do Rogue state clan use the phrase In hoc signo vinces?
Just curious.


'Under this sign you shall conquer'...


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Postby GrazingCattle on Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:48 pm

Because it is Latin for...? Class. Anyone have the answer?
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Postby GrazingCattle on Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:49 pm

Ah XenHu got to it before the class could have a chance to guess!
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Postby Ishmael_yoder on Thu Feb 15, 2007 5:57 pm

I know what it means, but why do you use it. It is most known from the story of constatines conversion to christianity. Doesn't seem like a motto that would be used by a group who is openly mocking christians.
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:05 pm

XenHu wrote:
Don't they teach you how to read in Church?



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Postby XenHu on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:06 pm

Ishmael_yoder wrote:I know what it means, but why do you use it. It is most known from the story of constatines conversion to christianity. Doesn't seem like a motto that would be used by a group who is openly mocking christians.


I care not for what it WAS used for.. But for what it IS used for.. We encourage freedom from reform(among other things)..Thus, if you are not reformed you shall conquer..

That is not our only motto, however..

My sig means..

'"we gladly feast on those who would subdue us"

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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:06 pm

beav77 wrote:requirements?

1. Are you a Christian?
2. Do you believe the Bible is the direct Word of God?
3. Do you currently hold a rank of Private or higher?
4. Do you accept everything in the Apostles' Creed?
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Postby XenHu on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:08 pm

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beav77 wrote:requirements?

1. Are you a Christian?
2. Do you believe the Bible is the direct Word of God?
3. Do you currently hold a rank of Private or higher?
4. Do you accept everything in the Apostles' Creed?


I told you to take that shit somewhere else.. If you spent less time recruiting and more time leading we might get this somewhere...

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Postby GrazingCattle on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:14 pm

Apostles creed is flawed. To say you believe in it is believing in what Satan wants you to believe. I am pretty sure the jesus Freaks are the anti-christ.

"Free cupcakes for anyone who doesn't deny the lord!"--- Paster Dave
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:16 pm

So far there are 12 players for the Jesus Freaks and there will probably be more. I will arrange everybody into teams on Saturday like I said before. They will be arranged on availability. For example freyme and Handsome Josh have informed me that they want to play for the JFC, but cannot for a few days, so they will likely be a pair. You, the Rogue State, may need more players or some of your premium members may need to play multiple games.

Also remember, God does not give his followers everything they want, therefore not giving the JFC the promise that we will win every game of RISK.
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:17 pm

GrazingCattle wrote:Apostles creed is flawed. To say you believe in it is believing in what Satan wants you to believe.

How so? You don't make sense.
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:18 pm

XenHu wrote:
Caleb the Cruel wrote:
beav77 wrote:requirements?

1. Are you a Christian?
2. Do you believe the Bible is the direct Word of God?
3. Do you currently hold a rank of Private or higher?
4. Do you accept everything in the Apostles' Creed?


I told you to take that shit somewhere else.. If you spent less time recruiting and more time leading we might get this somewhere...

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I will recruit where I wish, thank you.
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Postby GrazingCattle on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:18 pm

Didn't you say that if there was a Muslim clan you would beat them because god would back you? Maybe my mind fails me...
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Postby GrazingCattle on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:21 pm

Apostles creed says Jesus died on a cross. For such a bible buff you should know that this isn't true. Prove that he died on a cross because history, science, and the bible are against you.
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:22 pm

GrazingCattle wrote:Didn't you say that if there was a Muslim clan you would beat them because god would back you? Maybe my mind fails me...

Computers need a better way to imply sarcasm and joking, I've been mis-interpeted too many times now.
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Postby GrazingCattle on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:24 pm

I can imply sarcasm on a comp. I just say something SO crazy that people know I don't mean it. People actually believe what you say is truth because you are a zealot. We thought your yes meant yes...
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:30 pm

From John Chapter19:



So the soldiers took charge of Jesus.
17 Carrying his own cross, he went out to the place of the Skull (which in Aramaic is called Golgotha).

18 Here they crucified him, and with him two others— one on each side and Jesus in the middle.

19 Pilate had a notice prepared and fastened to the cross. It read: jesus of nazareth, the king of the jews.

20 Many of the Jews read this sign, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and the sign was written in Aramaic, Latin and Greek.

21 The chief priests of the Jews protested to Pilate, Do not write 'The King of the Jews', but that this man claimed to be king of the Jews.

22 Pilate answered, What I have written, I have written.

23 When the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took his clothes, dividing them into four shares, one for each of them, with the undergarment remaining. This garment was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom.

24 Let's not tear it, they said to one another. Let's decide by lot who will get it. This happened that the scripture might be fulfilled which said,

They divided my garments among them and cast lots for my clothing.

So this is what the soldiers did.

25 Near the cross of Jesus stood his mother, his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.

26 When Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing near by, he said to his mother, Dear woman, here is your son,

27 and to the disciple, Here is your mother. From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.


28 Later, knowing that all was now completed, and so that the Scripture would be fulfilled, Jesus said, I am thirsty.
29 A jar of wine vinegar was there, so they soaked a sponge in it, put the sponge on a stalk of the hyssop plant, and lifted it to Jesus' lips.

30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, It is finished. With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

31 Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down.

32 The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other.

33 But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.

34 Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water.

35 The man who saw it has given testimony, and his testimony is true. He knows that he tells the truth, and he testifies so that you also may believe.

36 These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: Not one of his bones will be broken,

37 and, as another scripture says, They will look on the one they have pierced.
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Postby GrazingCattle on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:33 pm

The Greek word rendered “cross” in many modern Bible versions (“torture stake” in NW) is stau·ros′. In classical Greek, this word meant merely an upright stake, or pale. Later it also came to be used for an execution stake having a crosspiece. The Imperial Bible-Dictionary acknowledges this, saying: “The Greek word for cross, [stau·ros′], properly signified a stake, an upright pole, or piece of paling, on which anything might be hung, or which might be used in impaling [fencing in] a piece of ground. . . . Even amongst the Romans the crux (from which our cross is derived) appears to have been originally an upright pole.”—Edited by P. Fairbairn (London, 1874), Vol. I, p. 376.

Was that the case in connection with the execution of God’s Son? It is noteworthy that the Bible also uses the word xy′lon to identify the device used. A Greek-English Lexicon, by Liddell and Scott, defines this as meaning: “Wood cut and ready for use, firewood, timber, etc. . . . piece of wood, log, beam, post . . . cudgel, club . . . stake on which criminals were impaled . . . of live wood, tree.” It also says “in NT, of the cross,” and cites Acts 5:30 and 10:39 as examples. (Oxford, 1968, pp. 1191, 1192) However, in those verses KJ, RS, JB, and Dy translate xy′lon as “tree.” (Compare this rendering with Galatians 3:13; Deuteronomy 21:22, 23.)

The book The Non-Christian Cross, by J. D. Parsons (London, 1896), says: “There is not a single sentence in any of the numerous writings forming the New Testament, which, in the original Greek, bears even indirect evidence to the effect that the stauros used in the case of Jesus was other than an ordinary stauros; much less to the effect that it consisted, not of one piece of timber, but of two pieces nailed together in the form of a cross. . . . It is not a little misleading upon the part of our teachers to translate the word stauros as ‘cross’ when rendering the Greek documents of the Church into our native tongue, and to support that action by putting ‘cross’ in our lexicons as the meaning of stauros without carefully explaining that that was at any rate not the primary meaning of the word in the days of the Apostles, did not become its primary signification till long afterwards, and became so then, if at all, only because, despite the absence of corroborative evidence, it was for some reason or other assumed that the particular stauros upon which Jesus was executed had that particular shape.”—Pp. 23, 24; see also The Companion Bible (London, 1885), Appendix No. 162.

Thus the weight of the evidence indicates that Jesus died on an upright stake and not on the traditional cross.
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Postby GrazingCattle on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:36 pm

That is from the "Reasoning from the scriptures" Publication.
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Postby GrazingCattle on Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:53 pm

Did I finally shut him up?!?!? He will probably come back quoting scripture at me. huh? That is not the place for
A). You to recruit
B). You to quote scripture
C). You to try and debate me (and really you never should)
D). You to use your devil magic. (my comp. just startes lagging, I guess I should blame him)
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Postby LewisJB3 on Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:09 pm

That's rediculous, you are debating him, if he isn't supposed to be debating him then don't insult him or the group. You don't make any since...
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Postby XenHu on Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:15 pm

LewisJB3 wrote:That's rediculous, you are debating him, if he isn't supposed to be debating him then don't insult himor the group, You don't make any since...


Neither do you...

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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:37 pm

XenHu wrote:
LewisJB3 wrote:That's rediculous, you are debating him, if he isn't supposed to be debating him then don't insult himor the group, You don't make any since...


Neither do you...

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He makes a lot more sense than GrazingCattle. So what there are a couple of typos and a mis-spelled word, he's human. Humans make mistakes, like GrazingCattle and his 'arguement'.
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Postby al12 on Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:07 am

Got a slot, got a partner, ready to battle bring it on :twisted:
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