MeDeFe wrote:Fitz, currently everyone receives an inordinate amount of extremely good ratings. Whether people like it or not, the system is broken.
It is not broken. Most people on CC are great people and great players. People should recieve a high number of good ratings. thats the point of it. This is a fun community of players, and spreading positivity proves why its not broken. The fact that most everyone leaves great ratings, proves that the ratings for them are equally justified. Your statement is direct proof of the fact that it is not broken. Its just great that everyone leaves great ratings....Its the way it should be on a fun game with fun people. Its amazing that people miss this most important point.
People come here to play with other people. They want to have a positive experience with other people. The ratings prove this happens. Unfortunately, there are some that are more happy, creating as much of a negative experience with other people as they can....and the ratings help identify those people too. Again...another example of how great the ratings work.
Its very easy to find one rating for a player that might not be deserved...but find any player...except new players....that does not deserve their rating. One player that say has a 4.0 that doesnt deserve it...or a 5.0 that doesnt deserve it. You cant do it.
EVERYONE, EVERYONE, EVERYONE HAS THE RATING THEY DESERVE. IT WORKS PERFECTLY.It allows us to give everyone a permanent gg, which in the end is what most people are looking for. The other goal of the ratings is to tell us what kind of player we are going to play. They do that perfectly, for anyone thats played enough games. The ratings fit each player exactly how they deserve to be rated. Perhaps its misinterpreted by some...but they work. Its just that some people dont realize they work, so they complain about them. But complaining does not mean something is broken. People complain about everything, and always will.
I do agree there are too many options though. The ratings right now are good average or below average.... its just done over five stars.
Its essentially what everyone does right now, so an easy fix is to just go with what already works, and eliminate the two extra stars. Then, the ratings will give you all the options you need to rate someone, the rating average will almost undoubtedly be the exact same because of the few numbers of
People are making the rating system too complicated. Its a simple system. It allows people to rate players which is absolutely necessary, because otherwise people will lose control and not be accountable. But, that is relatively a small percentage of the population. Mostly, nearly every player is a polite person, just trying to have some fun, and doesnt take the game too seriously, and certainly doesnt go off on every player they play every time they beat them with some.."impossible dice" thats why so many are rated well...as they should be.
All we really have to do is ignore the fact that the ratings will never be perfect. People will always abuse them. Just as people will always cheat, always be abusive, and you can never stop it. You can only punish those who go too far.
KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID. The old feedback system was maybe perfect, except it needed moderation, which is simply and completely impossible. So, any improvement to the ratings would be just going to 3 stars. Using Above average, Below average, and average. They are all subjective, and no one can say that another is not entitled to anothers opinion about what average is. Only those who go overboard will need be regulated.
Even without that change, the way to fix the complaints in C&A is to simply not regulate them as much. ONLY deal with the absolute obvious cases of abuse. Quite frankly, the failing in this respect is that the C&A moderators are just being too helpful, and working too hard at catering to all reports. They honestly just need to draw a line in the sand, tell us to not report ratings abuse, because they are averaged anyways, and only the most extreme cases of negative abuse will be looked at. Leaving too many positives is not abuse...its spreading the love, and making CC a better place. Its the negatives that keep people in check, and the ones that let us know what kind of player we are going to play.... AND THAT IS THE POINT OF THE RATINGS. The point is not to get an absolutely perfect rating of what a player is...that is just a silly goal at the outset...however...if you look at someone rating...and then look through their games...you will see...that every rating fits every person perfectly +/- 1 rating point.
It is not broken. You will not find one person with a rating...except for new players who do get screwed....that they dont deserve. It achieves the main goal, it achieves its secondary goals...the only complaint, is that people complain that they dont like it....but again ....people complain about everything....
Putting any more time into the ratings is just an absolute waste of time of CC resources...I want to see more maps, more options, less cheaters, cheating and perhaps abuse... I and no one else really cares if the rating is 100% perfect... its an impossible and silly goal... its just a quick measure of what to expect, and allows us to adjust strategy, and possibly avoid some players. Its a great system, and anyone complaining about it is simply missing the forest for the trees....or is just someone who enjoys complaining about everything...which again...is irrelevant.
Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:46 pm
