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Proposal: Change in classic map continent bonuses

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:45 am
by verdun
I propose for a change in the bonus for two continents: South America and Africa

South America: 3
Africa: 4

(No changes to N.Am., Europe, or Asia)

Reasoning:
S.Am: Oceana provides a 2 bonus, but has only one border. S.Am. has two borders and is much more difficult to defend than Oceana, plus is in a more fought after areas, whereas Oceana is at the back end of Asia, which is rarely fought over.

Africa: Africa is in the center of the map and between S.Am and Oceana - a likely thoroughfare and battleground - causing Africa to be a difficult continent to defend.

Re: Proposal: Change in classic map continent bonuses

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:57 am
by killmanic
I dont think the classic map will EVER be changed again after just trying to change the army circles caused a riot.

PS if they were doing something taking NA down to 4 would be a better idea instead of making small bonuses worth way to much.

Re: Proposal: Change in classic map continent bonuses

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:25 pm
by jiminski
killmanic wrote:I dont think the classic map will EVER be changed again after just trying to change the army circles caused a riot.

PS if they were doing something taking NA down to 4 would be a better idea instead of making small bonuses worth way to much.


well i think it could be changed if the whole community were to be involved. And much like with the Brazil map it were completely revamped with new ideas and graphic styles.

If everyone got a vote before the changes were actually made as opposed to after (duuuuhh) then it would be far better received.

the classic map change to the ellipses was a total cock-up and many lessons have been learned.

.. there could be a site vote on all options (as opposed to only the 3) then the site could if it wished keep the old one.
but just look at the Brazil maps! they are beautiful and i personally would like to play on a classic map of such quality!

Re: Proposal: Change in classic map continent bonuses

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:30 pm
by Frop
No, thank you. I prefer the classic Classic.

Re: Proposal: Change in classic map continent bonuses

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:49 pm
by Timminz
The classic map will not, and should not be changed. If you'd like a slightly different map, create it, or suggest it to some of the map makers.

Re: Proposal: Change in classic map continent bonuses

PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 11:10 pm
by e_i_pi
When I used to play the board game with friends, we'd make a border between Argentina and Eastern Australia. It fixed things for us, made it a better game, rather than just "Australia wins".

But, people on CC do like their tradition.

Anyhow, to quote Herakleitos...

The only thing constant is change*

*except for the continent bonuses, borders, army circles**, and everything else on Classic map

**army circles rule over-ruled in 2008, to great community rebellion

Re: Proposal: Change in classic map continent bonuses

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 1:23 am
by khellendros
No way should you change the bonuses...I have a original risk board, and despite the fact that it in no way accuratly portrays size or shape of continents, the bonuses were stated, and should remain so, if for no reason other than to maintain the "Classic" nature of the classic map.

Re: Proposal: Change in classic map continent bonuses

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:53 am
by MeDeFe
Classic is classic, why break what works perfectly?

and eipi, Australia does not necessarily win, I've had some lengthy discussions about that, involving the analysis some 150 games.

Re: Proposal: Change in classic map continent bonuses

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:15 am
by Scott-Land
Timminz wrote:The classic map will not, and should not be changed. If you'd like a slightly different map, create it, or suggest it to some of the map makers.


tbh- Classic's graphics is the worse compared to all existing maps. I play mostly all Classic even though I have no past reference to the map to gauge by- it needs a revamp in the worse way. As Jim said, if it's a community decision then it should appease almost everyone.

Re: Proposal: Change in classic map continent bonuses

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:23 pm
by cicero
All map specific suggestions should be made in the Map Foundry.

This suggestion is being discussed in the Map Foundry in the Revamp of the Classic map thread.

For future reference any suggestions or bugs relating to a map already 'quenched' - ie in play - should be made in the particular map's thread in the Map Foundry - Final Forge subforum. In this particular case that is not actually possible since there is no such thread for Classic as it was the initial CC map.


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