Player 1 Starts with Australia

by **MikeFromLux** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:40 pm

We all know that in a 1 on 1 game - sequential, there is a slight advantage to going first - however, in this game, The First player also started with Australia. Is there a randomness to the starts? Can we establish guidelines so that if one player gets Australia - or any other continent on the drop - at least he goes 2nd?

by **owenshooter** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:43 pm

it's random... you won't complain when it happens for you, for the first time!-0

by **MikeFromLux** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:55 pm

I don't think it should happen at all - whether I am on the recieving end or not.

It simply should not happen - my question was 'Can there be a way to prevent this' -

by **owenshooter** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:56 pm

MikeFromLux wrote:I don't think it should happen at all - whether I am on the recieving end or not.

It simply should not happen - my question was 'Can there be a way to prevent this' -

how do you prevent random from happening? it's random!-0

p.s.-go over to the suggestions and post a thread there if you feel this strongly...

by **Sam Pootang** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:02 pm

It is completely random, the drop is random and who goes first is random. And randomness is the best way to do it otherwise you will get people complaining about it. Nothing you can do about it just get on with the game and wait for the game in which you get lucky. :wink:

by **owenshooter** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:06 pm

Sam Pootang wrote:It is completely random, the drop is random and who goes first is random. And randomness is the best way to do it otherwise you will get people complaining about it. Nothing you can do about it just get on with the game and wait for the game in which you get lucky.

so wait.. what you are saying is... let me get this straight... IT IS RANDOM?!!! yeah, if they started screwing with what percentage of a territory you could hold on a drop, etc, people would go nuts... how would that be random? it just happens. and when it does, you just don't quit, because you never know what can happen with the dice... well, unless you have have purchased a dice program on the CC Black Market...-0

by **Sam Pootang** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:22 pm

owenshooter wrote:well, unless you have have purchased a dice program on the CC Black Market...-0

Now that would be a good way to make money. :lol:

by **MikeFromLux** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:16 pm

Sam Pootang wrote:It is completely random, the drop is random and who goes first is random. And randomness is the best way to do it otherwise you will get people complaining about it. Nothing you can do about it just get on with the game and wait for the game in which you get lucky.

I disagree - I would like to see 'Starting Scenarios' - which could be developed by the map makers - these could be as numerous as the map maker wanted - and have these scenarios pop up randomly, but make sure that the scenarios are 'balanced' -

For example, if one is going to start with Australia - make him the 2nd player to move...

by **owenshooter** on Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:53 pm

MikeFromLux wrote:
Sam Pootang wrote:It is completely random, the drop is random and who goes first is random. And randomness is the best way to do it otherwise you will get people complaining about it. Nothing you can do about it just get on with the game and wait for the game in which you get lucky.

I disagree - I would like to see 'Starting Scenarios' - which could be developed by the map makers - these could be as numerous as the map maker wanted - and have these scenarios pop up randomly, but make sure that the scenarios are 'balanced' -

For example, if one is going to start with Australia - make him the 2nd player to move...

no way i want someone determining how i'm going to start on a RANDOM game. if you don't like the randomness of it, go to the scrabulous site and play scrabble. oh wait, the tiles are RANDOM in scrabble. the odds of starting a game with a bonus secured is probably pretty low, you are looking to fix something that is not broken. why isn't it broken, it is RANDOM. i don't want to play a RANDOM game with FIXED scenarious for starts.-0

p.s.-you should go to the suggestion forum with this, maybe you will find some like minded people...

by **autoload** on Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:32 am

Keep playing games and you will see that everything equals out in the end.

by **greenoaks** on Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:05 am

MikeFromLux wrote:
Sam Pootang wrote:It is completely random, the drop is random and who goes first is random. And randomness is the best way to do it otherwise you will get people complaining about it. Nothing you can do about it just get on with the game and wait for the game in which you get lucky.

I disagree - I would like to see 'Starting Scenarios' - which could be developed by the map makers - these could be as numerous as the map maker wanted - and have these scenarios pop up randomly, but make sure that the scenarios are 'balanced' -

For example, if one is going to start with Australia - make him the 2nd player to move...

we do have maps where the randomness of drops have been removed by the map makers. they are Feudal War, Conquer Man, AoR:Might & AoR:Magic.

by **owenshooter** on Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:45 am

greenoaks wrote:we do have maps where the randomness of drops have been removed by the map makers. they are Feudal War, Conquer Man, AoR:Might & AoR:Magic.

well, i think he is interested in playing a good map, those don't help the situation... ha!!!-0

by **Pedronicus** on Sat Mar 29, 2008 8:41 am

Anyone that plays 1v1 with settings on unlimited forts is an idiot. The first person to go has a massive advantage because they can move everything and the second player is virtually always going to be on the back foot.
In fact - i just looked at 10 random 2 player games with unlimited forts - and the person who went first won.
Thats not a game of skill - It's a lottery of who goes first. :roll: