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Postby DaGip on Fri May 30, 2008 10:07 pm

There are three players left, and two make an alliance...is that fair? http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2400608
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby The Fuzzy Pengui on Fri May 30, 2008 10:11 pm

Fair? Definately not.

It is within the rules however, so they didn't do anything wrong :cry:
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby DaGip on Fri May 30, 2008 10:22 pm

Yeah, I know it is, but it's still bull!
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby The Fuzzy Pengui on Fri May 30, 2008 10:24 pm

Agreed. I've had a few alliances in my day, but I don't think I've done it when there were only 3 people left...
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby DaGip on Fri May 30, 2008 10:36 pm

If you did this in a tournament game, you would probably get a few negatives, huh?
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby lord voldemort on Sat May 31, 2008 4:22 am

DaGip wrote:If you did this in a tournament game, you would probably get a few negatives, huh?

tournament games generally alliances are no-no unless the tourny says so, if it is a tourny speak to the organiser
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby t-o-m on Sat May 31, 2008 11:52 am

DaGip wrote:There are three players left, and two make an alliance...is that fair? http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2400608

some people did that to me aswel - they made it in like round 5 - said i was "way too strong", they really pissed me off - i wasnt strong - i just took out his castle in feudal.
anyway - check my feedback left/received and those people left a posotive for me just to piss me off - i demanded they remove it but they wont :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby gimil on Sat May 31, 2008 4:31 pm

There is nothing bull about 3 player alliances. Any smart player knows if they make them self strong there gonna get bullied out of it. A player who cant handle the alliance that they know is legit against them is just a shield at their frustration. ;)
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby owenshooter on Sat May 31, 2008 5:28 pm

gimil wrote:There is nothing bull about 3 player alliances. Any smart player knows if they make them self strong there gonna get bullied out of it. A player who cant handle the alliance that they know is legit against them is just a shield at their frustration. ;)

alliances are for weak players, period. if you want an alliance, play a team game.-0
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby cpurcell on Sat May 31, 2008 6:07 pm

owenshooter wrote:
gimil wrote:There is nothing bull about 3 player alliances. Any smart player knows if they make them self strong there gonna get bullied out of it. A player who cant handle the alliance that they know is legit against them is just a shield at their frustration. ;)

alliances are for weak players, period. if you want an alliance, play a team game.-0



Even though it is perfectly legal, it's definately a cheap tactic...I consider people who use alliances to be dis-honorable, but hey, that's just me. Fortunately, I've never had to deal with them....
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby wacicha on Sat May 31, 2008 7:46 pm

DaGip wrote:There are three players left, and two make an alliance...is that fair? http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2400608


Sir you know in a game it is always one against all, that they voice it is just for their benifit.
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby gimil on Sat May 31, 2008 7:53 pm

owenshooter wrote:
gimil wrote:There is nothing bull about 3 player alliances. Any smart player knows if they make them self strong there gonna get bullied out of it. A player who cant handle the alliance that they know is legit against them is just a shield at their frustration. ;)

alliances are for weak players, period. if you want an alliance, play a team game.-0


Well its generally weak players than need alliances to get back into strong positions so that statement is correct, a smart player always makes alliances when its for there benefit.

I will make an alliance to get myself back into a good position or if I can use the alliance in a smart way to help me win. Remember this is a game of strategy, not honor. If an alliance is part of a winning strategy there is no reason to not use it.
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby ParadiceCity9 on Sat May 31, 2008 7:54 pm

wacicha wrote:
DaGip wrote:There are three players left, and two make an alliance...is that fair? http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2400608


Sir you know in a game it is always one against all, that they voice it is just for their benifit.


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Re: 3 players left...

Postby gloryordeath on Sat May 31, 2008 10:31 pm

wacicha wrote:
DaGip wrote:There are three players left, and two make an alliance...is that fair? http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2400608


Sir you know in a game it is always one against all, that they voice it is just for their benifit.


as well said as could be said, but alliances still suck... ;)
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Postby Robinette on Sat May 31, 2008 10:53 pm

owenshooter wrote:
gimil wrote:There is nothing bull about 3 player alliances. Any smart player knows if they make them self strong there gonna get bullied out of it. A player who cant handle the alliance that they know is legit against them is just a shield at their frustration. ;)

alliances are for weak players, period. if you want an alliance, play a team game.-0


Team games are the wimpiest form of alliance because you can't break them... :P
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby wacicha on Sat May 31, 2008 11:18 pm

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wacicha wrote:
DaGip wrote:There are three players left, and two make an alliance...is that fair? http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=2400608


Sir you know in a game it is always one against all, that they voice it is just for their benifit.


as well said as could be said, but alliances still suck... ;)


I agree, I never ally. but it happens so play accordingly
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:48 am

This has actualy been a very fun game, which is not a team game now but a 3 player game strat wise.

There will always be self righteous folk who disagree so I lose no sleep

The game is built on luck, strategy AND manipulation of your enemies. Those who dont get it, well they wont. Some in this understand the motivating force when it happens.

Ive watched folks trade ones in games for cards, Ive been ganged up and elimated because higher ranks didnt want to lose to me. The other day I posted on somthing I perceived as a stupid move during an escalating game. The game had gone perfectly for me uintil...wello until it didnt lol. I was told by players whose opinions I respect that indeed the player I questioned indeed did a smart thing. Its all a matter of perspective.

In this game Green has played an outstanding game. He was at the point where he could sit and build with out a care, which is what he was doing, while blue and I killed each other over the boarders of Gondor. At the time of his choosing he could simply haul off and storm through with a massive army. I simply forced his hand and took the brunt, which only confirms what his strategy was going to be. I just called it out.

World history is based on just such alliances. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. There is great irony in that now blue can sit back as green pitbulls me. But thems the breaks and this is just a game.

And on one final note...im sorry Gip is so upset and neaded to air this horrid affair /sarcasm off...But by far the Stupidest play of this game was Gip leaving ONE sole red army for me to take out 2 countries away and both with ones. I was shocked at the stupidity.

Also my team mate (my son) was taken out first. I had been playing solo against the other two teams when Gip made his fatal blunder. Green and I never made any alliance but there was a few turns we were on the same wavelength to eliminate yellow. Yellow over extended into greens territorry and thought he could go into Greens hornets nest safely. I took out yellow completely out on my part of the map suspecting that green would try and eliminate yellow in his part. he didnt dissapoint.

Strategy is not black and white folks...if we wanted to roll numbers with out the politics we would play a computer.

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Re: 3 players left...

Postby Johnny Rockets on Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:07 am

Well said, sir.

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Re: 3 players left...

Postby Ditocoaf on Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:58 am

I personally never have used them, but I think alliances are legitimate. It's a strategy--if you form an alliance, you're more likely to win (unless of course it sets you up to lose to the other person). I agree that weaker players tend to be the ones to start alliances, but a stronger player could benefit from doing so as well -- they just chose not to, due to honor.
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby DaGip on Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:51 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:This has actualy been a very fun game, which is not a team game now but a 3 player game strat wise.

There will always be self righteous folk who disagree so I lose no sleep

The game is built on luck, strategy AND manipulation of your enemies. Those who dont get it, well they wont. Some in this understand the motivating force when it happens.

Ive watched folks trade ones in games for cards, Ive been ganged up and elimated because higher ranks didnt want to lose to me. The other day I posted on somthing I perceived as a stupid move during an escalating game. The game had gone perfectly for me uintil...wello until it didnt lol. I was told by players whose opinions I respect that indeed the player I questioned indeed did a smart thing. Its all a matter of perspective.

In this game Green has played an outstanding game. He was at the point where he could sit and build with out a care, which is what he was doing, while blue and I killed each other over the boarders of Gondor. At the time of his choosing he could simply haul off and storm through with a massive army. I simply forced his hand and took the brunt, which only confirms what his strategy was going to be. I just called it out.

World history is based on just such alliances. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. There is great irony in that now blue can sit back as green pitbulls me. But thems the breaks and this is just a game.

And on one final note...im sorry Gip is so upset and neaded to air this horrid affair /sarcasm off...But by far the Stupidest play of this game was Gip leaving ONE sole red army for me to take out 2 countries away and both with ones. I was shocked at the stupidity.

Also my team mate (my son) was taken out first. I had been playing solo against the other two teams when Gip made his fatal blunder. Green and I never made any alliance but there was a few turns we were on the same wavelength to eliminate yellow. Yellow over extended into greens territorry and thought he could go into Greens hornets nest safely. I took out yellow completely out on my part of the map suspecting that green would try and eliminate yellow in his part. he didnt dissapoint.

Strategy is not black and white folks...if we wanted to roll numbers with out the politics we would play a computer.

Have a good night all.


You call my move stupid, but your alliance only serves your own demise. It doesn't serve you to win the game at all. Can't you see that?

No offense to my partner, because he was doing fine until the alliance, but if I was playing Lindon instead of him, this game would had already been over with. I have beaten teams all by myself as long as I can hold Lindon.

Your alliance only smoked my partners armies out, to both yours and blue's benefit, however, why give the game to blue? I thought you wanted to win? Don't you see that when you make an alliance that that leaves the person being ganged up on no choice but to decide on which player he/she wants to take out with them, and my partner is choosing you because you offered the alliance, blue just took you up on it.

If you couldn't see the error of your own alliance, I think that makes you the stupid one.

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Re: 3 players left...

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:02 pm

If a condemned man is about to die and his only chance of escape will probobly insure his death I gaurantee he will still take the chance.

I grasp the logic.

I just get bothered by some elitists who feel their way is the only way to play. Your deemed dishonorable if you go against the group think.
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby DaGip on Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:53 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:If a condemned man is about to die and his only chance of escape will probobly insure his death I gaurantee he will still take the chance.

I grasp the logic.

I just get bothered by some elitists who feel their way is the only way to play. Your deemed dishonorable if you go against the group think.


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Re: 3 players left...

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:40 pm

The irony!
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Re: 3 players left...

Postby DaGip on Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:25 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:The irony!


You shall bow before your elitist Over Lord!! Boohahahahaahaaa! :lol:
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