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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby gdeangel on Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:22 pm

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If you're talking about 1v1, then yeah, classic sucks. Otherwise, it's a great map.


I agree. And likewise, some good 1v1 maps are lousey for multi-player... but the jist is that to be elite on this site (as opposed to merely being an elite RISK player), you've got to be skilled across a range of maps, understand the strategic implications of one way attacks, bombardments, negative bonuses, non-linear bonuses, and - now - infected neutral resets.

Score doesn't show this, but if you look and see some players who are only playing classic, even ones with mega-points, I pose to you that they are not as skilled generally, as a cc player, as someone who win consistently on any map. I only single out classic b/c I tend to see people who just play classic more than any other board, although there are obvious exceptions to that rule :-s
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby Timminz on Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:14 pm

To me, the classic map is why I'm here. The others are just gravy. I know this is a "non-hasbro affiliated game of world domination", but I'm here because I like playing RISK.
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby kletka on Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:28 am

I vote general. All the generals and higher, I have played, are better than me :mrgreen: and I have no idea how to reach the rank of general with my level of play (off course one can just wait for a point inflation)
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby guinniboy on Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:53 am

id have to say major since this can land u on page one, though i see far too many players getting there with a high percentage of wins coming from silver nobodys often missing turns and handing free points away, maybe multi accounts or friends who dont care but are jioning only to lose to help pad these ranks, why do u see majors and higher playing 40 straight games and winning against privates, cadets, and new recruits? seems they would not put those hard earned points up against such low ranks unless they were insured victory.
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby owenshooter on Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:00 pm

gdeangel wrote:
Timminz wrote:
If you're talking about 1v1, then yeah, classic sucks. Otherwise, it's a great map.


I agree. And likewise, some good 1v1 maps are lousey for multi-player... but the jist is that to be elite on this site (as opposed to merely being an elite RISK player), you've got to be skilled across a range of maps, understand the strategic implications of one way attacks, bombardments, negative bonuses, non-linear bonuses, and - now - infected neutral resets.


i get the GIST of what you are saying... interesting...
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby oVo on Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:35 pm

I would venture to say that there is no elite class on the battlefield
because we're all bozos on this bus.
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby owenshooter on Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:56 pm

oVo wrote:I would venture to say that there is no elite class on the battlefield
because we're all bozos on this bus.

the clown car is defenitely veering off the road... we are talking the type of veering
where it goes straight into a ditch and bursts into flames... every tried to put out a fire
fueled by giant clown shoes? ever smelled burning clown noses? ewwwww....-0
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby Fruitcake on Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:49 pm

guinniboy wrote:id have to say major since this can land u on page one, though i see far too many players getting there with a high percentage of wins coming from silver nobodys often missing turns and handing free points away, maybe multi accounts or friends who dont care but are jioning only to lose to help pad these ranks, why do u see majors and higher playing 40 straight games and winning against privates, cadets, and new recruits? seems they would not put those hard earned points up against such low ranks unless they were insured victory.


Interesting supposition g'boy, however, I must disagree (from a subjective view). I, along with regular partners, put ourselves out there, and whoever wants to take us on is welcome. It takes just one loss, against the very low ranks, in around 8 or 9 games to wipe out all the points gained previously, and this does happen. I notice those who play the team games often fluctuate between Colonel and Major. The drop can be so poor, on occasion, that even the most experienced strategic player will get hammered. I must say on this last point, that cooks, cadets etc. don't help themselves by deadbeating with far more frequency than those in higher ranks.

I do not 'specialise' as such, although I do play classic most of the time and eschew some of the stranger maps. So I suppose the argument could go that I specialise on the classic map.

This whole thread seems to be joined at the hip with the others about low rankers playing poorly, high rankers not taking low rankers on, etc etc. As I see it, players like myself are damned if we do and damned if we don't. That is to say, if we lock ourselves away and play among ourselves, 'hoarding' the points, we are accused of not being genuine in our approach and not daring to take on the lower ranks. If we take the ' we are open to anyone' approach, the majority comes from the lower ranks (unsurprisingly as most of the membership is below the Corporal rank), when this happens we are accused of fleecing them for meagre points....such is the price of being good at something.

So, in summary, I would say an Elite player is a player who will always play anyone on those maps and styles they enjoy that are 'generic', and win the vast majority of the time, climbing the ranks to sit within the top 200 (which of course includes me :-^ ).

Once there, of course, the leap higher is a slow process unless they really do find a niche game that few others will deal with. These players I do not call 'Elite' in the true sense of the word. After all, to be at the top when playing a map everyone knows is surely better than playing a map that only a few know and others play literally acting as flies in a spiders web.
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby The1exile on Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:52 pm

I would say it depends upon what level of seriousness "elite" is. Good players tend to pick up in frequency over sergeant first class or so, though of course the really serious players will be in the higher ranks. There's also the fact that your ability to play for points does not always reflect your ability as a versatile risker.

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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby guinniboy on Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:58 pm

burning clown shoes,,,,, lol
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby MajorRT on Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:55 pm

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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby MajorRT on Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:00 pm

Fruitcake wrote:[So, in summary, I would say an Elite player is a player who will always play anyone on those maps and styles they enjoy that are 'generic', and win the vast majority of the time, climbing the ranks to sit within the top 200 (which of course includes me :-^ ).

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Ahem....did someone supercilious mention snobbery in the weekly CC Summary Congrats thread?!?!
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby MeDeFe on Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:03 am

MajorRT wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:[So, in summary, I would say an Elite player is a player who will always play anyone on those maps and styles they enjoy that are 'generic', and win the vast majority of the time, climbing the ranks to sit within the top 200 (which of course includes me :-^ ).

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Ahem....did someone supercilious mention snobbery in the weekly CC Summary Congrats thread?!?!

I don't know. Did someone mention it?
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby Fruitcake on Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:13 pm

MeDeFe wrote:
MajorRT wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:[So, in summary, I would say an Elite player is a player who will always play anyone on those maps and styles they enjoy that are 'generic', and win the vast majority of the time, climbing the ranks to sit within the top 200 (which of course includes me :-^ ).

.

Ahem....did someone supercilious mention snobbery in the weekly CC Summary Congrats thread?!?!

I don't know. Did someone mention it?


Nah....
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby t-o-m on Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:03 pm

whoever voted sargent or lower is retarded.
sorry to say.

not litterally of course.
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby Fruitcake on Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:08 pm

t-o-m wrote:whoever voted sargent or lower is retarded.
sorry to say.

not litterally of course.


Metaphorically speaking perhaps....
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby gloryordeath on Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:10 am

t-o-m wrote:whoever voted sargent or lower is retarded.
sorry to say.

not litterally of course.



Do we need to start a bash on tom for picking on the retarded thread? Or a bash on the players that really just suck? Or just mabey we could get back on track.
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Re: What Rank Do You Consider To Be Elite?

Postby MajorRT on Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:18 am

Did anyone ever suggest ranks lower than cook, like bottle-washers, toilet-cleaners, potato -peelers, or suck-ups, etc.? Then we could discuss what ranks are the antithesis of elite! :?
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