Plan to renew? EDITED POLL -- REVOTE NEEDED!

[Gypsys Kiss]

To be honest the way this place is i would rather cut off my nuts than bother to stay on another year too much politics and BS here complete and utter turn around to what this place used to be and many i know feel the same way.

Cannot wait for my membership to expire at this rate.

Thats all very well, but if you dont like the politics and BS, why get involved. Use the bit you enjoy and ignore the rest.

[hulmey]

To be honest the way this place is i would rather cut off my nuts than bother to stay on another year too much politics and BS here complete and utter turn around to what this place used to be and many i know feel the same way.

Cannot wait for my membership to expire at this rate.

Thats all very well, but if you dont like the politics and BS, why get involved. Use the bit you enjoy and ignore the rest.

he doesnt get involved. IVE known koe for a while and he usually keeps a low profile. tHIS PLACE aint what it used to be though *sigh the good old days*

[Matroshka]

To be honest the way this place is i would rather cut off my nuts than bother to stay on another year too much politics and BS here complete and utter turn around to what this place used to be and many i know feel the same way.

Cannot wait for my membership to expire at this rate.

Thats all very well, but if you dont like the politics and BS, why get involved. Use the bit you enjoy and ignore the rest.

he doesnt get involved. IVE known koe for a while and he usually keeps a low profile. tHIS PLACE aint what it used to be though *sigh the good old days*

I wasn't here then I guess. How was the game more fun then?

[Optimus Prime]

I wasn't here then I guess. How was the game more fun then?

Aaah, and you've hit the nail on the head, haven't you? The truth is the GAME has only gotten better, but everyone is complaining about the FORUM atmosphere. Oddly enough, you don't PAY for the forum, you pay for the game, so quite frankly, your determination on whether or not to renew should be based entirely upon whether or not you want private games, unlimited games, or speed games, and not based upon the state of the community.

Strange how that works, isn't it?

[jako]

I wasn't here then I guess. How was the game more fun then?

Aaah, and you've hit the nail on the head, haven't you? The truth is the GAME has only gotten better, but everyone is complaining about the FORUM atmosphere. Oddly enough, you don't PAY for the forum, you pay for the game, so quite frankly, your determination on whether or not to renew should be based entirely upon whether or not you want private games, unlimited games, or speed games, and not based upon the state of the community.

Strange how that works, isn't it?

well said. im just sitting here laughing.

[Juan_Bottom]

I din't notice that you could vote more than once. Do you think PLAYER did?

[PLAYER57832]

Im not going to quote you ED. But what im saying is that all the issues rolled together is effecting my CC experience drastically and not for the better!

With regards the 2 server crash's that doesnt bother me coz im well aware that these types of things happen. Unlike some i can understand this becuase i too work for a company that provides a gaming experince to its customer's. My problem is that im constantly being timed out and asked to "reload". This happens on a daily basis whether at work or home!

That said there have been good things but just not enough

I am on a lot (too much probably) because I happen to work at home and just keep the computer on, check in and out a lot. And I have never had this issue ... so I wonder if it is something with your area or system? Sounds like you know more about computers than I, but this really does not sound like its CC.

[PLAYER57832]

:lol:
I din't notice that you could vote more than once. Do you think PLAYER did?

EDIT: NO! And that pretty well negates any usefulness of this poll, so I AM redoing it.

Right now, before redoing it, there are 53 votes for and 49 no's. The reasons are pretty evenly varied.

[PLAYER57832]

A biased poll - yet still gives the yes answer.

C.

How so? Because I did not leave more yes options? I figured if you were happy, you were happy, but that it might be good to know "why" for any no's. I mean, if cost is an issue that says something quite differant from being bored with Risk, disliking the "dice" or other issues with the site.

Exactly right.

There may be many reasons why people voted yes - not just "of course"...

C.

Actually, this is not really a major bias at all. I probably should have just said "yes" .. and will when I change the options.

BUT, a lot of the objections really have to do with MISunderstanding poll bias.

The REAL problem here is that only those visiting the forums are going to vote. Folks with complaints/issues are far more likely to come in to complain than people who are happy. That's just human nature. That is why you seem to see so many complaints about issues, but then when changes come ... a lot of folks come in and say "hey, wait, wait, wait ... I LIKED the old system" (that and another facet of human nature is to dislike change, in general).

A poll is biased primarily when there are not enough options... usually, a "no" option is left out. This is classic for those political action group polls. You get to decide "yes, I want a politician in office who likes chocolate cake No, I want a Republican in office who likes vanilla cake, I want someone in office who likes flavors other than chocolate or vanilla ... but no options for someone who eats no cake.

Another method is to make people decide between options that are so narrowly worded they give no information.

For example:

I believe that all criminals who commit serious crimes should be executed.
OR
I believe that only the most serious criminals warrant the death penalty.
OR
Just let all the criminals go ... don't impose the death penalty.

There is no room for anyone who wants penalties other than the death penalty.
(and, by-the way, this is pretty close to a real poll I got in the mail!)

You could argue that there is a subtle bias to having more "no" options than "yes" options. People without clear opinions can be swayed in that way, BUT, it is not enough to invalidate a poll. It is a very small bias. By putting that option at the top, I actually counter-manded that bias a bit since there is also a bias toward first answers. Some things just can't be readily avoided, so you just take them into account when viewing results.

As to why I worded it this way? Because anyone who is NOT going to renew is essentially a "lost customer". If someone is staying, they are happy and life goes on. But if leaving, it matters if it is because of something "external" (say, a person's finances) or something to do with the site itself. It matters if the person is "just bored with Risk" or frustrated because of too many changes, etc.


NOW, that said, this is hardly a scientific study. Again, the primary reason is that those answering are not truly representing CC as a whole. FURTHER, responses to such polls are notoriously biased. If someone is in a bad mood today, they are more likely to say "no", but later may end up joining ... etc.

Still, I was curious, thought it would be fun to see what happened. Honestly, I was surprised by the number of negative votes, BUT I also suspect that being able to vote 3 times made a huge differance. (which is why I am re-doing it!)

[Optimus Prime]

This poll is still incredibly lopsided. If you were going to re-do it, you should have balanced it out.