chipv wrote:edbeard wrote:you guys are missing out on the benefit of anyone being able to play. if there's only testers, then that severely limits the amount of games that will be played.
having it open to anyone with the disclaimer will probably not result in a huge drop in games for these maps when they go live (when compared to how many they get now). I'm sure a lot of people will miss the disclaimer and complain but you can only do so much to protect an idiot from him or herself. I do hope there is actual separation from the beta maps and the regular ones with a disclaimer on the game finder/start a game page. That's probably one of the most important things about this.
Not quite sure whom you are addressing but I'd like to say that if you'd like to backtrack this thread, I have supported your idea from the first time it was drawn to my attention. The .xml suggestion above should have been placed on your thread, it is not an extension of any other idea but an attempt to solve the problem of the .xml changing during Beta testing rendering old logs incorrect. I guess an overlaid image label Beta (like the New image) is a good enough disclaimer on its own. Good idea of yours!
heheh you have a gentle soul Chip.. but this may be my fault.
Anyway, I would just have said .. "never gonna happen anyway Ed. So arguing about the colour of the Loch Ness monster is a fun but baseless excercise." I do not know what i would have meant .. but i would definitely have meant it! ; )
anyway we are all on the same side Ed. I would love your excellent idea to come about for all our sakes. I guess, as this is all rather a new concept for me, that i am not in any way qualified to know what is best for map makers in the way of a testing facility.
In my harebrain i considered that a means, not only to work-out bugs but to adapt new forms of gameplay, would be useful. That this could stand outside; not be part of the live system with a curtain draped between, with a sign saying enter at your risk)
Anyway Chip came up with the idea without knowledge of your idea .. i rather blindly kept on about it. I added the disclaimer that i would love to be further educated if the idea has already been formulated, asking why Chips would not be easy to install etc etc. but due to noses being out of joint already and/or the naivety of my questions, i received no clarification until long after I was howling like an Arizona Coyote, with his balls caught on rusted razor-wire.
Regardless, i have nothing but ignorant goodwill for your idea .. but sitting beside that i also have the desire to try and get stuck into ideas.. even when i am unaware of their implications.. and have no idea.