babysitting

[barterer2002]

I know there was an issue a few months ago with baby sitting in team games, the banning of Lanyards for the poor judgement (allowing max to watch his account) has brought a somewhat separate issue to the forefront.

What are the policies, if any, in regards to baby sitting. After all we all have real lives and going away for a weekend without internet access is not an uncommon event for most people.

In the past what I've done is had the rest of G-1 sit for me, whoever had the time to take a turn or two, rather than burden one person with all my games. I've sat for other members on a similar basis. For me its one of the benefits of clan membership-the knowledge that I can go away for the weekend and have my games covered. When we sit for each other we announce in game chat who's sitting so its nothing hidden. It tends to be better for the other players in the games because they keep moving along.

I understand the issue with what max has been banned for, however I think its clearly a separate issue. There is clearly a difference between having several people sit for you while you're away, and keep the games moving along and jumping in to any number of other accounts on a whim.

So my question here is, what is the site policy on account sitting. Is the process we've been using in G-1 against site rules? (if so we'll change of course). Really just looking for some guidance so we don't run into trouble in the future.

[Natewolfman]

In the past what I've done is had the rest of G-1 sit for me, whoever had the time to take a turn or two, rather than burden one person with all my games. I've sat for other members on a similar basis. For me its one of the benefits of clan membership-the knowledge that I can go away for the weekend and have my games covered. When we sit for each other we announce in game chat who's sitting so its nothing hidden. It tends to be better for the other players in the games because they keep moving along.

i do the exact same thing with my clan... when i have near 100 games going and National Guard calls me away for a weekend, i cannot expect 1 person to cover my games and theres... so yes i suppose some clarity on this is needed

[Bones2484]

Thanks Bart. I'd like some clarification on this issue as well to avoid any trouble due to the rules not being clearly stated (especially for clans).

[barterer2002]

So are we to assume that we can continue to do it the way we've been doing it as we're not stupid enough to let Max in particular watch our accounts?

[phantomzero]

I am not a member of an active clan and I only have a few friends on CC. I'm not very active on the social side of CC, but like most everyone else I am sometimes away from a computer for more than 24 hours. I haven't had Max sit my account for several months, but before all this commotion about farming and account sitting came up he did sit several games for me. He was always willing to help me out while I was travelling and never abused my account. While I might not agree with his method of gaining points, I still appreciated his help with my turns so that I wouldn't deadbeat. Thanks for the help Max.

[Timminz]

The post above this does not belong in this thread. There are numerous other threads about Max and what he did, and who's accounts he did it with. This thread is looking for clarification on, pretty much, the opposite of Max's issue.

What is CC's official policy on having multiple people babysit one account?

[owenshooter]

hashed and rehashed... not even worth commenting in this thread... here is the 37 pager that covers babysitting and babysitting in team games. wicked, andy and twill all weigh in... wicked even vanished after we disputed her "unwritten rule" claim and wanted something concrete. even better, she un-stickied the thread in the middle of the night in an effort to let it slide down the GD to spare herself more embarassment. go check it out, pretty damn good thread.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49899&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=babysitting

thanks.-0

p.s.-only the best clan on CC bothered to recognize halloween with a kick ass sig.

[jiminski]

Nice sig but that is nothing Owen! We all painted our bottoms Orange and spread the word in our respective locales .. we have the 'Halloween Monki Rumpkin Romp' gallery in the tree-house.

as to babysitting.. be careful when you ask for clarification, as we do not want it in my opinion. we have vague rules to allow normal users flexibility to allow for real life.

i think we need to leave it to mod discretion to judge abusers like Max most recently. The site only picks on clear-cut abuse, that specific case was very well judged and a good example of common sense implementation against obvious abuse. (heheh he was an annoying little fellow)

-Just don't use babysitting as an excuse to allow a high rank (for example) to play all the go's for a team.
-Play for anyone but not if you are in opposition.

i am sure there are other common-sense rules of thumb but the guiding rule is: don't cheat or actively abuse the convenience of the babysitter and you will not get banned.

[owenshooter]

again:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49899&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=babysitting
it was hashed and rehashed in this thread, check it out. yes admins and
mods weighed in... closest to a clarification we have gotten.-0

[barterer2002]

Owen, I've read most of that thread or at least I did a few months ago and didn't want to subject myself to it again.

It seemed to me that it primarily debated team games and abuse there rather than anything else. Clearly there were abuses in team games. Since I'm being told not to have several people sit for me I'd appreciate the clarification because I believe that I'm being fed inaccurate information.

[owenshooter]

Owen, I've read most of that thread or at least I did a few months ago and didn't want to subject myself to it again... It seemed to me that it primarily debated team .

then you didn't read far enough:

It seems as though some people have taken the shelfing of this current proposal to mean that sitting is now a free for all.

It mean's we've had to update the FAQ rule a little to clarify:

You can, with the stipulation that the account babysitter is not your opponent in any current game and does not start or join new games (except for ongoing tournaments). It is common courtesy to announce in game chat that another player will take your turn(s) during your absence. Furthermore, you should only take another player's turn if they are in danger of missing a turn, not for the purpose of gaining a tactical advantage.

(emphasis added)

This is not a departure from what was true before, it simply makes tactical account sitting a punishable offence (which is always has been in practice)

I will update the first post with this as well.

Have a good one
Twill

[phantomzero]

Timminz wrote:
The post above this does not belong in this thread. There are numerous other threads about Max and what he did, and who's accounts he did it with. This thread is looking for clarification on, pretty much, the opposite of Max's issue.

I posted in this thread looking for clarification of the babysitting "rule. Barterer posted a valid question regarding having several different people sit on one account. I brought up Max as I still receive several emails a week (3 today alone) that accuse me of violating rules 1 and 2 and list dozens of players that are banned from playing games together. I am interested in this topic because I am still interested in finding out why I am on this list. My e-tickets have went unanswered.

Thanks for the link to Twill's response Owenshooter, and nice sig.

[jiminski]

again:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=49899&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=babysitting
it was hashed and rehashed in this thread, check it out. yes admins and
mods weighed in... closest to a clarification we have gotten.-0

why again?

*heh like i don't know..what the heck! i'm a good sport, i'll give you one more chance to have your Halloween sig. on view Owen*