New Community Guidelines [Feedback Thread]

[Iliad]

Actually I was suggesting that if you do ask us for our opinions, you do listen to them. So drop that tone, though doesn't really matter because you're not going to be listening to us, the community anyway. But at least you guys are perfect, you will never make mistakes or go on power trips and we all respect and like you.

Oh wait.

that was a tad harsh iliad...

Just like the mods were a tad condescending.

[cicero]

Actually I was suggesting that if you do ask us for our opinions, you do listen to them. So drop that tone, though doesn't really matter because you're not going to be listening to us, the community anyway. But at least you guys are perfect, you will never make mistakes or go on power trips and we all respect and like you.

Oh wait.

that was a tad harsh iliad...

Just like the mods were a tad condescending.

Come on guys, let's get back on topic ...

The old "Forum Guidelines" were less than perfect - agreed.
The new Community Guidelines are more exhaustive, but still less than perfect - agreed.

We, the admins & moderators, worked together to extend the Forum Guidelines to cover the situations we regularly deal with and which simply weren't covered or were covered inadequately in the old guidelines. I am happy to say the result is still short of the quality that the community deserves and for that matter significantly short of the quality that we, the admins & moderators, could have achieved if we'd kept working on them for an extended period. But things taking 'an extended period' to actually happen is one of the frustrations we all - members, admins & moderators - share. And anyway as several people have already noted community feedback is an important phase so the sooner that gets started the better right? This thread is that phase.

As ever focussing on the issue at hand; producing constructive feedback on the Community Guidelines, (not making generalisations/judgements about people or just bash groups of people; "the mods" in the quote I've highlighted), is going to be the best way to use this thread. Let's do that.

There are already quite a few posts in this thread that do exactly that and of those there are some where I'd personally say "yep, let's change it" straight away. I'll review the thread and try to add a concise summary of the changes proposed.