Why won't CC tell the truth?

[jiminski]

i keep seeing scott-land cheating threads pop up, and some folks seem to be rather certain of it. ive played scott-land a ton of times, and never took notice of anything other than exemplary play(and an angry mouth sometimes ) so i pose this question.


do any of the people making these claims have any reliable proof? seems ridiculous to keep bringing it up without new evidence.

good to see you here Hw, all ok with the hurricane?


i apologise if anyone minds me asking this off topic question .. but the thread has run its course i think?

[frankiebee]

Play for fun, why would you want to have 5000 points ? So that you can feel good about yourself ?
Damn, just accept it, and foe him, if you can't stand it..

Or, try to become a conquerer yourself, and you will see that,...You can't

[Incandenza]

One thing I will say though is that when I play some high-ranked players it seems they really get the benefit of amazing dice.
I'm honestly wondering if there's some kind of hacks being used on this site, and if anyone can enlighten me on this I'm really curious.

Cue Robinette in 3... 2... 1...

[wrestler1ump]

i keep seeing scott-land cheating threads pop up, and some folks seem to be rather certain of it. ive played scott-land a ton of times, and never took notice of anything other than exemplary play(and an angry mouth sometimes ) so i pose this question.


do any of the people making these claims have any reliable proof? seems ridiculous to keep bringing it up without new evidence.

Once again you're way behind the rest of us. There was already a thread about scott-land's cheating that got locked. Please see the OP.

[wrestler1ump]

scott has proven countless times to be a manipulator of the system. He uses the ignore list on anyone who attacks him, so that people are afraid to attack him when they finally do get removed.

The other thread on scott's cheating is proof of what a cheater the prick is, but for some reason nothing is being done about it.

[nagerous]

scott has proven countless times to be a manipulator of the system. He uses the ignore list on anyone who attacks him, so that people are afraid to attack him when they finally do get removed.

The other thread on scott's cheating is proof of what a cheater the prick is, but for some reason nothing is being done about it.

Wrestler, all opinions are valid but please could you refrain from using insults like "prick" and not resort to flaming. Thanks man .

[Bruceswar]

Do you really believe anything you say anymore wrestler? When are you going to learn people are just better than you. Get over it already. You play freestyle casual 8 man games. Why is your score not up if it is sooo easy and to manipulate? Hmmm Could it be you get beat over and over? hmmm

[KoE_Sirius]

As much as I hate to defend him .Scott has nothing to do with the locking of the thread .
Scott doesn't pay the mods to lock threads .They just do it when they see a word out of place or they feel that the thread has gone a little more liberal then CC .
As for Scott cheating .This has been looked at by the mods time and time again and they seem to think he isn't a cheat .
The moderators are the powers that be round these parts .So live with it .As we all do .

[FabledIntegral]

CC just locked the latest thread on "cheating" by Scott-Land.

There have been more than one such complaints. The latest was locked, almost instantly, as we can't have that, or can we?

This post says again, what MANY have said, which is that the scoring and ranking system on CC sucks. It is BASED UPON satisfying the quirks and insecurities of morons like Scott_Land and the MANY cheats who enable them.

It's NOT a question of DOES Scott_Land cheat, of course Scott-Land cheats.

It is a question of how CC enables that.

The scoring and ranking system at CC is DESIGNED to enable such cheating.

If you can count, if you are capable of basic math, you know this. If you are a "landian" well, more's the pity.

Again I ask, WHY was the latest thread locked after just 13 posts, the last being the post which locked it?

WHY not just change the system?

Hey moron - figure out yoru definitions first before you start posting your idiocy k?

"cheating - To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards."

The system can't enable cheating. Whether or not you consider it "taking advantage of the system," or whatnot is irrelevant. Whether Scott farms from noobs or only plays high ranks to protect his points or abuses CM or whatever other complaint you can fathom up is irrelevant if it doesn't violate the rules. I'm not in here to defend Scott- he's a big boy and can do it himself. I'm here to point out that as always you're a total idiot in terms of your explanations of the scoring system.

EDIT: Just realized the cheating thread you were referring to was the one with me - if you're so dense as not to understand the reason why it was locked... ugh. Maybe it was more so the fact of the posting manner and no evidence presented rather than them trying to cover anything up.

[oVo]

It shouldn't even have to be repeated that any accusation made without evidence is unfounded and a waste of everyone's time. The more you repeat something that isn't based on fact won't make it true, because it still has no merit. Maybe it's time for you to be honest with yourself here jpliberty, you got nothing. Maybe if you catch a few games with scott-land you will have a better understanding of how he does what he does. Who knows... maybe his methods are worth emulating. I have no idea what his mad skills are, all I know for certain is that, like you, he has played a lot of games.

Which brings up a curious statistic... you (jpliberty) have actually completed 1500+ more games than scott-land, your win rate (53%) is higher than his (37%) and yet he has still managed to accumulate almost double your point total. When I first started reading this thread I figured scott-land has a lot of points because he has played more games than most here... but your stats totally defy that theory. In fact you're not even on page one of the Scoreboard after completing 4967 games. I guess that makes you a very unique anomoly of some kind, but I like to think it just means you really enjoy this game... or have a lot of time to kill.

I have yet to play scott-land and his rank/playing skilz isn't something I've ever given much thought to... even when he made it to Conquerer. So until you actually catch him on the battlefield I suggest you do the same, give this subject a rest, and enjoy a few good games.

[jpliberty]

Naturally you would say he cheats. Why? I doubt you have ever played him. GTFO...

Indeed, a quick search reveals this to be the case.

Indeed, and an even quicker check shows Scott-Land plays a miniscule number of people on CC. I'm easily in the top 1% of opponents challenged (just a guess about where I am but I KNOW Scott-Land easily is in the BOTTOM 1% or thereabouts).

So, you were saying?

[jpliberty]

CC just locked the latest thread on "cheating" by Scott-Land.

There have been more than one such complaints. The latest was locked, almost instantly, as we can't have that, or can we?

This post says again, what MANY have said, which is that the scoring and ranking system on CC sucks. It is BASED UPON satisfying the quirks and insecurities of morons like Scott_Land and the MANY cheats who enable them.

It's NOT a question of DOES Scott_Land cheat, of course Scott-Land cheats.

It is a question of how CC enables that.

The scoring and ranking system at CC is DESIGNED to enable such cheating.

If you can count, if you are capable of basic math, you know this. If you are a "landian" well, more's the pity.

Again I ask, WHY was the latest thread locked after just 13 posts, the last being the post which locked it?

WHY not just change the system?

Hey moron - figure out yoru definitions first before you start posting your idiocy k?

"cheating - To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards."

The system can't enable cheating. Whether or not you consider it "taking advantage of the system," or whatnot is irrelevant. Whether Scott farms from noobs or only plays high ranks to protect his points or abuses CM or whatever other complaint you can fathom up is irrelevant if it doesn't violate the rules. I'm not in here to defend Scott- he's a big boy and can do it himself. I'm here to point out that as always you're a total idiot in terms of your explanations of the scoring system.

EDIT: Just realized the cheating thread you were referring to was the one with me - if you're so dense as not to understand the reason why it was locked... ugh. Maybe it was more so the fact of the posting manner and no evidence presented rather than them trying to cover anything up.

No, Fabled, I don't understand why it was locked...cause it hasn't been explained to me by the close knit tribe here who make those decisions.

No one wants to challenge the phony-assed scoring system because to do so would reveal for everyone that there is NO skill involved in obtaining the highest scores. NONE.

That sure would rain on the parade of those who look to Scott_Land and say: gee, how he do that?

I'm just pointing out that Scott_Land, and other "high scoring members" are cheats, are liars, are fools...and most of all, are pretenders.

If you can't take that, if you cannot understand that, I suggest that you reread your own post because in that you spelled out exactly what I mean by cheats, liars and pretenders.

[jpliberty]

i keep seeing scott-land cheating threads pop up, and some folks seem to be rather certain of it. ive played scott-land a ton of times, and never took notice of anything other than exemplary play(and an angry mouth sometimes ) so i pose this question.


do any of the people making these claims have any reliable proof? seems ridiculous to keep bringing it up without new evidence.

good to see you here Hw, all ok with the hurricane?


i apologise if anyone minds me asking this off topic question .. but the thread has run its course i think?

yes, yes, so let's lock this thread too...can't have too many questions about CC's inane scoring system, can we?

LOL

[dividedbyzero]

yes, yes, so let's lock this thread too...can't have too many questions about CC's inane scoring system, can we?

LOL

Dug ? Is that you, Dug ?

If you hate the scoring system so much, go suggest something in Suggs/Bugs and stay on it, quit playing, or quit bitching. Those are pretty much your options. Posting here isn't going to make much of a wave to how the scoring system is done.

[FabledIntegral]

CC just locked the latest thread on "cheating" by Scott-Land.

There have been more than one such complaints. The latest was locked, almost instantly, as we can't have that, or can we?

This post says again, what MANY have said, which is that the scoring and ranking system on CC sucks. It is BASED UPON satisfying the quirks and insecurities of morons like Scott_Land and the MANY cheats who enable them.

It's NOT a question of DOES Scott_Land cheat, of course Scott-Land cheats.

It is a question of how CC enables that.

The scoring and ranking system at CC is DESIGNED to enable such cheating.

If you can count, if you are capable of basic math, you know this. If you are a "landian" well, more's the pity.

Again I ask, WHY was the latest thread locked after just 13 posts, the last being the post which locked it?

WHY not just change the system?

Hey moron - figure out yoru definitions first before you start posting your idiocy k?

"cheating - To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards."

The system can't enable cheating. Whether or not you consider it "taking advantage of the system," or whatnot is irrelevant. Whether Scott farms from noobs or only plays high ranks to protect his points or abuses CM or whatever other complaint you can fathom up is irrelevant if it doesn't violate the rules. I'm not in here to defend Scott- he's a big boy and can do it himself. I'm here to point out that as always you're a total idiot in terms of your explanations of the scoring system.

EDIT: Just realized the cheating thread you were referring to was the one with me - if you're so dense as not to understand the reason why it was locked... ugh. Maybe it was more so the fact of the posting manner and no evidence presented rather than them trying to cover anything up.

No, Fabled, I don't understand why it was locked...cause it hasn't been explained to me by the close knit tribe here who make those decisions.

No one wants to challenge the phony-assed scoring system because to do so would reveal for everyone that there is NO skill involved in obtaining the highest scores. NONE.

That sure would rain on the parade of those who look to Scott_Land and say: gee, how he do that?

I'm just pointing out that Scott_Land, and other "high scoring members" are cheats, are liars, are fools...and most of all, are pretenders.

If you can't take that, if you cannot understand that, I suggest that you reread your own post because in that you spelled out exactly what I mean by cheats, liars and pretenders.

Then don't use the words "cheats." Absolutely ridiculous that you like twisting any words for your own preference. Whether or not you think the system works, a definition is a definition. I can't all of a sudden say you're a murderer because you lie - that's not the definition of a murderer. You might be lying... you're still not a murderer. You're a liar. Whether or not you're a liar can be debated - whether or not you're a murderer will not. If you want to call them out for your reasons for being "fools, liars, and pretenders," then fine, but you're just spewing bullshit to everyone in these forums by using the words "cheats," and making an ass of yourself in the process.

You've also played a mere 68 escalating games - you obviously lack the knowledge to know how much skill is required. To say it takes no skill is a sense of mere ignorance - explain to me how a sergeant can become a Brigadier by playing only public 8-player games on a variety of maps. Lucky dice? They are public games that anyone can join - don't fucking lump everyone into one category kid.

Lastly - if you're too much of an idiot to understand why a cheating thread that

1. Posted 0 evidence. Evidence is key. Whether or not the evidence is valid is to be determined, but evidence needs to exist in the first place in order to be debated. No game links were posted, nothing from chat posted, nothing. Just "they are cheating blah blah one person kisses another's ass."
2. He wasn't posting anything relevant. Instead he posted multiple things such as

they are good frends but one guy cheating the other they are both pathetic players who only cheat.

in fact this site is fucking bullshit.

Nvm - I went to keep adding quotes and I was literally about to add the entire post. In fact - go show me a single sentence where anything VALID in that thread was posted. Something that's at least debatable. It's obvious that anything in reference to

1. Kissing ass is irrelevant, no chat posted, and even if, is not against the rules.
2. This site being shit is irrelevant to the topic.
3. Him posting personal information about me is irrelevant to the case.
4. Him referring to KG's thread is irrelevant because said information has already been evaluated.
5. Typing in all chats and saying continuously "F*CK ALL MODS" and "DO NOT BLOCK OUT MY CUSSING" has lots of validity to it and should be looked into carefully, yet still not quite relevant.
6. Saying over and over SL + FI are cheats, BAN THEM once again is without evidence.

Do you legitimately think if I made a thread stating

"JPLIBERTY IS A FRIGGIN' CHEAT. I SWEAR I F*CKING KNOW IT. BAN THIS F*CKER OR YOU'LL REGRET IT. AND MODS, WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, F*CK YOU"

should be investigated? No - it's a waste of the mod's resources, and if you can't process that then you're wasting everyone's time.

[Incandenza]

Indeed, and an even quicker check shows Scott-Land plays a miniscule number of people on CC. I'm easily in the top 1% of opponents challenged (just a guess about where I am but I KNOW Scott-Land easily is in the BOTTOM 1% or thereabouts).

So, you were saying?

You used this same daft metric in that highly entertaining thread a few months ago where you spent pages and pages railing against the scoring system... wtf is it supposed to represent? Number of players played? 'Cause that's a quantity over quality thing, which is funny coming from someone that has almost 5000 games played. Given that you seem to have such a beef with one of the core components of the site, you sure do spend a lot of time here.

And I'm going to go ahead and request that you stop calling Scott a cheater. If you have evidence of such, then present it in the appropriate forum. If not, then STFU. This "he's a cheater cause I said so" thing is profoundly asinine and makes you sound like you've gone full retard, and as we all know, you should never go full retard.

[KoE_Sirius]