MODS ARE GOING MAD

[hulmey]

i think she handled it quite while, even when owenbigmouth came in with wide words of wisdom!! i think fruit job shoud have got a 3 day ban for failing to be witty......

keep calling people names, and this thread will move to flame wars. why don't you try to remain on topic? oh yeah, i forgot, everyone thinks you are out of your mind and left a negative for absolutely a bogus reason. dear lord, someone played differently than you wanted them to play!!! someone had a different idea of what they should do, than what you thought they should do! why don't you just start 3 more accounts, and only play against yourself, so each player does exactly what you want, and you never lose! that seems to be the only solution for you. and seriously, keep calling people names. it is VERY constructive and shows just how well you are able to handle people that have different ideas than you do. why start a thread if you only want to hear from people that agree with you? grow up.-0

haha, your such a bore...you came into my thread trying to be the big man with ur fucked up attitude, not me...

ur buddy thought he was being smart and if i remember rightly u both warned to stay on topic. so lets leave it at that and move on!!

now regards feedback, i have every right to leave feedback, that meet the critea, which it did!!!

[owenshooter]

Now isnt it my god given CC right to leave any kind of feedback i desire within the rules???

sure, and if it was within the rules, it would not have been removed. ahem... and as much as it pains me to agree with my nemesis, V.I., he pretty much nailed it.

If you were going to leave any feedback at all, it should've been neutral.
Negative feedback is for deadbeats, cheaters, verbal abusers and other such assholish behavior, including using game chat during FOW. Neg feedback is not for players who go against any one particular incarnation of "proper game play."

you don't like how the guy played, leave him neutral. what he did was not worth a negative.-0

[White Moose]

Humley, you know my name is Moose, so don't say mouse. It only shows immatureity

I still think it's really funny that you get this mad about 1 single bad move i make. As Night Strike pointed out i got many games active, at the time that game was done then i think i had 65 games, so its easy that one mistake happens.

As Night Strike also pointed out i couldnt attack Ricco almost at all. Becuase we both had all of our territorys on diffrent continents. I could only attack if i would deploy all my armies on a Spy and make a 10 vs 7 roll. Which isnt that good odds. It wouldnt make much diffrens if i did that. Sir Ricco already had the game before i took you out from my continent. I was just hoping for him to have a few bad dices and not eliminate you.

I still would love an answer to my question i asked before.

Does everyone has to play flawless to not get a negative from you?
(don't be a chicken and don't answer this for a fourth time please)

hahaha, sorry. Can't stop laughing to myself that im accually defending a single mistake did which EVERYONE has done more than once. Humley, you have also done mistakes here on CC, probably bigger than this.

Ask yourself this: Would you want a negative for each mistake you have ever done?

Think over what i write here before you say anything.

Please answer both of my questions.

Thanks for taking your time to read all of this, if you aren't blinded by madness over losing the game. Then you would realize that you should just leave this all alone.

PEOPLE MAKES MISTAKES, LIVE WITH IT

[Optimus Prime]

Except.... that negative feedback for gameplay decisions have already been set as a precedent by the site as not a legitimate reason for negative feedback... or were you not paying attention to the hundreds of times this very same thing has happened?

What I don't understand is the reason so many players seem to think it is necessary to leave a negative feedback for this kind of thing. I'll bet that if you had left a neutral and been a little more civil in your choice of words it never would have even been considered for deletion.

Feedback is clearly here to comment upon behavior, and not strategy or gameplay ability. Why is that so hard for so many to understand? Just this week I had a couple of games turn from being in almost my favor or slightly in my favor to a rough loss because another player decided to pay a little more attention to me than the other guy left. Any one of the 3 of us could have won, but only 1 person did because someone else made a couple of not-so-great moves to break my bonus in one place, while leaving the other guy alone for 2 rounds. I was in position to beat that guy down a bit to keep it even if I had been left with my bonus for just one more round. But... it didn't happen, did I leave a negative feedback? No, I didn't. It wouldn't have been "helpful" to anyone else down the line. Yes, one player did essentially give the game over to another because of some poor play and not-so-great strategy, or maybe it was just because he wasn't paying as much attention to the details of the game as I was. So what? Not a reason to leave a negative feedback. What I did do was make a civil comment in the game chat saying "Hey, next time make sure to keep an eye on how many armies the other guy has, could have given you a better shot to win." It got my point across without the need for drama and such.

Now yes, this situation is clearly not exactly the same, as hulmey has made it abundantly clear his very honor or some such was insulted by the poor play of another player who "should" have known better because of his rank. But the principle is still the same.

hulmey, you already stated that both you and White Moose were on your back leg the entire game and likely would have lost anyways, and that you didn't mind the loss of the game. Why then was it so necessary to go and give the feedback? I just don't understand that. Likely if you two had teamed up on the third player to take him out and then battle it for yourselves the nature of the pessimistic player here on CC would have prevailed and he would have left you a negative feedback with some accusation of "unholy alliance!" or "he's a lousy cheat!" For some reason knowing your temperament and attitude I think you would have been just as offended by either of those as you were at your negative comments being removed.

If you don't like the way someone played put them on your Foe List, that is what it is there for. If they deadbeat, cheat, or do something else, leave some feedback (or soon, a low rating). Honestly, this thread never really needed to be created to moan about some perceived injustice done to you by the moderators of CC.

Yes, you can leave negative feedback if it is within the guidelines. However, negative feedback for making a move you don't agree with has never been, and likely never will be a legitimate reason for it and we've seen evidence for a long time that they will be removed if the person receiving the feedback fills out the e-ticket.

[owenshooter]

now regards feedback, i have every right to leave feedback, that meet the critea, which it did!!!

sooo, then why was it removed? oh wait, it isn't grounds for a negative... shocker... now, please answer moose's questions, instead of ducking them again.. here, let me put them up again for the moose:

1. Does everyone have to play flawless to not get a negative from you?
2.Would you want a negative for each mistake you have ever done?

this should be good... my money is on your avoiding the questions, yet again...-0

p.s.-why is it that a certain mod only comes in and tells members of certain clans to stay on topic and/or to stop name calling.. and then when the OP persists in name calling, brutish language, and cursing, nothing is said? oh wait.. i think i just answered my own question...

[Timminz]

It has been shown time, and time again that leaving negative feedback based on someone's strategy (or lack thereof) alone is not acceptable. If it gets challenged, it will be deleted.

Dont make me laugh or cry. Where did you get this rubbish from?

I got this from the numerous other threads where someone complains about having feedback deleted when it's based on strategy (or lack thereof) alone. Believe it or not, this is not the first time someone's gone on about the "horrible injustice" they've been subjected to by the mods, when in actually, they just can't seem to be bothered to follow the guidelines of what is, or is not acceptable reason for a neg. If hulmey had done some research, he would have seen that this whole temper tantrum is unfounded, and only serves to make him appear to be a crying child.

[Anarkistsdream]

The main reason people do not leave Neutrals is because they don't show up on the tally.

Optimus, you are right with what you said, and so is VI and everyone else.

HOWEVER, Hulmey did this so that people would see and take note. Neutrals might as well not exist.

I am not agreeing with Hulmey, but many of you need to see both sides of the story.

[MeDeFe]

What the hell are you talking about? Have you even read the instructions for feedback? Do you at all bother to read what other people post in this thread? There's no reason why feedback should not be left for how a person plays the game, whether it's positive or negative.

[Anarkistsdream]

What the hell are you talking about? Have you even read the instructions for feedback? Do you at all bother to read what other people post in this thread? There's no reason why feedback should not be left for how a person plays the game, whether it's positive or negative.

I hope this wasn't directed at me, because I agree with you.

Also, note how at the end you say "whether it is positive or negative."

That is my point... Neutrals just get the wash-out. Maybe they should begin to count, too.

[foregone]

What the hell are you talking about? Have you even read the instructions for feedback? Do you at all bother to read what other people post in this thread? There's no reason why feedback should not be left for how a person plays the game, whether it's positive or negative.

I hope this wasn't directed at me, because I agree with you.

Also, note how at the end you say "whether it is positive or negative."

That is my point... Neutrals just get the wash-out. Maybe they should begin to count, too.

This would be perfectly true....if so many players weren't a little trigger happy with deciding game play must be bad if it knocked them out. The standard of objectivity in judging these things seem to be following Elvis in many cases; namely, they have left the building.

[Sir. Ricco]

I might be a little off topic or to late, but I was surprised by that move from White Moose. I had an easy win with him doing that. I think the neg feedback was deserved.

[Timminz]

There's no reason why feedback should not be left for how a person plays the game, whether it's positive or negative.

but there IS a reason. That reason is as simple as "the mods have already shown that this is not acceptable reason for a neg." The precedent has been set, so regardless of what you, or hulmey, or anyone thinks, this thread is not discussing a specific injustice, but rather whining about the rules & policies of this fine site.

[Anarkistsdream]

Very true, foregone...

I guess that I just had to side with Hulmey for a minute because if I think someone did something really dumb in a game, I would want others to know it. If I make it neutral, nobody is going to bother to read it. Due to that, I'd make it Negative.

However, I don't care how dumb the move looked- if the guy has more than one stripe, I would give him the benefit of the doubt... Especially since Hulmey left this negative to a Major. Obviously, most officers are smart and play well. One mistake or doing what they thought may work is a chance every player takes at some point, and leaving a Major a negative for doing something you don't like is not valid.

[Timminz]

Honestly, I would prefer if negs like this were allowed, but I understand why they're not, and I can deal with it, and that's my advice to a lot of people here. Just deal with it.

[foregone]

Very true, foregone...

I guess that I just had to side with Hulmey for a minute because if I think someone did something really dumb in a game, I would want others to know it. If I make it neutral, nobody is going to bother to read it. Due to that, I'd make it Negative.

However, I don't care how dumb the move looked- if the guy has more than one stripe, I would give him the benefit of the doubt... Especially since Hulmey left this negative to a Major. Obviously, most officers are smart and play well. One mistake or doing what they thought may work is a chance every player takes at some point, and leaving a Major a negative for doing something you don't like is not valid.

The very first feedback I received was for making an idiotic move in a game...and I absolutely deserved it. So I left it, responded within the feedback system and all was well.

If all the feedback over such things were reasoned, like you seem to do, then I think there would be no essential problems with it. But....as previously stated...this particular problem won't be relevant much longer. There'll be a new system and a whole new set of problems.

[Anarkistsdream]

Well said.

[wrestler1ump]

Of course the mods show their double standards when they let people leave bullshit negative feedback for me claiming "bad strategy" and nothing more. Then when I do the same, it gets deleted by the mods. Feedback is a joke, and I can't wait to see this stupid system get terminated so we can actually have a site with some fairness to it.

[MeDeFe]

There's no reason why feedback should not be left for how a person plays the game, whether it's positive or negative.

but there IS a reason. That reason is as simple as "the mods have already shown that this is not acceptable reason for a neg." The precedent has been set, so regardless of what you, or hulmey, or anyone thinks, this thread is not discussing a specific injustice, but rather whining about the rules & policies of this fine site.

And on what grounds should we blindly accept everything the mods tell us? They're mods, so what? That doesn't make a person better qualified than any other person to decide what is acceptable or not.
Let me quote the feddback instructions again since everyone seemed to miss it the last time.

Feedback is made up of comments left by other club members you have played with. These comments are valuable indicators of your reputation on Conquer Club. They are publicly viewable and stay on your record.

A player's reputation, on a gaming site, where a game is played. How is gameplay then not at all relevant for a player's reputation?

[Timminz]

I can see that you don't like the current policies. If you would like to see something changed, you should go to the suggestions forum. As this thread stands in GD, it is nothing more than complaining about the way things are run, rather than actually trying to accomplish anything.

[happy2seeyou]

Even if he goes to the "suggestion forum" to suggest something about how this was handled . . . it makes no difference because feedback is getting changed and we won't have this problem. This thread is pretty much a last "vent" about feedbacks and how the moderators handle them.

[Timminz]

This thread is pretty much a last "vent" about feedbacks and how the moderators handle them.

Which, also means that it's in the wrong place.

[Twill]

Reputation and rank are two very different things and the site separates them.

If you're an idiot player then chances are you have a pretty low rank. If you're just plain an idiot that might not be reflected in your rank because you might be a skilled player.

The rating and ranking systems were designed with two different purposes in mind and we'd like to keep them separate.

Hopefully the new system will fix the problems we currently have and introduce as few new problems as possible

So for now, lets stop worrying about the problems with the old system and focus on avoiding problems with the new one (i.e. go comment in the Preview thread at the top of this forum)

Have a good one
Twill

[hulmey]

Im going to drop this coz as the man says (twill) this kind of feedback is going to ancient destroy very soon. I would like to say my feedback met the below guidelines ;

Feedback Guidelines

Leave only fair and factual comments that relate to a specific game.

Ive apologized to white moose and i hope we can get along together now. I was angry not at him but at the mods for moderating badly!

[Timminz]

I was angry not at him but at the mods for moderating badly![/i]

But, they were doing a fine job. They were staying consistent with the precedents that have been set. In the future, if you disagree with the rules and/or policies, make a suggestion in the appropriate forum, and if you just wanna bitch about something, take it to flame wars.

[hulmey]

I was angry not at him but at the mods for moderating badly![/i]

But, they were doing a fine job. They were staying consistent with the precedents that have been set. In the future, if you disagree with the rules and/or policies, make a suggestion in the appropriate forum, and if you just wanna bitch about something, take it to flame wars.

Im really wondering if your blind or just stupid!!

Feedback Guidelines

Leave only fair and factual comments that relate to a specific game.