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favorite continent to have

Posted:
Mon May 15, 2006 10:49 pm
by corner G
k, not sure if this poll has been done befor, but I'd like to know which continent you enjoy having the most in the classic map.

Posted:
Mon May 15, 2006 10:51 pm
by corner G
sry. forgot S. America

, just pick your favorite out of the five

Posted:
Mon May 15, 2006 10:57 pm
by Hoff
I voted for north america even tho south america is my favorite. NA is kind of difficult to obtain, but once you have it for a round there are only three borders and a decent bonus.

Posted:
Mon May 15, 2006 11:06 pm
by wacicha
of course favorite depends on if escalating or flat rate

Posted:
Mon May 15, 2006 11:09 pm
by HighBorn
europe if its flat rate.. if its escalating... well who needs one

Re: favorite continent to have

Posted:
Tue May 16, 2006 9:46 am
by agarvin
It also depends how many players are in the game. Europe & N America, or even Africa can be very difficult to hold early in a 5- or 6-player game. There, going for a small continent is the way to go, if possible, building a small advantage slowly. South America is a favorite because it gives you 2 very good lines of attack when you get that advantage. Oceania is great for defense but poor for staging attacks; still, it's worth getting while other players fight amongst themselves.
In a 3-player game, if you have unlimited fortifications, you can go for something big right away and hold it. Hold Europe or North America for a couple turns and you can build up an unbeatable advantage. Going for a weak continent should be a last resort, because it's likely one of the other guys will grab something good.
For 4-player, South America is good, North America better if you can manage to clean it out. Africa is a good possibility if no one is after Europe and you can hold the Middle East, and maybe Southern Europe, as a buffer.

Posted:
Tue May 16, 2006 9:50 am
by Darkfire001
NA is superiour to Europe in just about every way, Bonus to border ratio is MUCH higher, position is "safer".

Posted:
Tue May 16, 2006 10:10 am
by HighBorn
thats the thing though dark most people dont go for eu just because of that so if u can catch it at the right time most people fort out of it and u can sweep it and hold early in the game..


Posted:
Tue May 16, 2006 10:14 am
by kingwaffles
While it's true that not many people will go for EU early in the game it sill does have too many borders to control effectively that early unless you have a good position.
PS: Being in a computer lab pisses me off....

Posted:
Tue May 16, 2006 5:27 pm
by Marvaddin
My favorite continent to have? Asia, of course... 7 armies!!
But, you are asking what continent is my first try in a game... South America (even more because I live here!!

)

Posted:
Tue May 16, 2006 5:40 pm
by pevanelagas
South america and Africa or South america and N.A
^easiest and favorite anyways^

Posted:
Tue May 16, 2006 10:18 pm
by reverend_kyle
you never said easiest you just said favorite one to have, which is asia because if you have it you get the reinforcements to defend

Posted:
Tue May 16, 2006 11:24 pm
by Twill
Just to throw this out there, a former room mate of mine once did a thesis project on this using game theory.
His conclusions, while based on some dodgy math, showed that in a game with standard rules (flat rate, one fort, seq) australia is strategically the best continent to hold in games containing 4 or more players. If only 3, then N.America is the best.
Not that that ever stopped me from going for australia in a 3 person match, or losing most of my other matches either.
Just throwing that out there
Twill
North america

Posted:
Wed May 17, 2006 3:02 pm
by wcaclimbing
i definately like north america for games w/ 4 people.
it has great access to the world and the bonus lets you build up quickly.
plus, with North America, south america is easy to take (as long as its not extremely fortified

) and it only adds one more border country. both of those give you 7 bonuses a turn with 4 borders and good access to the world
PS: i like australia in 6 player games because it it like a hiding place where you can wait for your opponents to destroy eachother while you build up a large army to destroy whoevers left
Re: North america

Posted:
Wed May 17, 2006 3:05 pm
by wcaclimbing
wcaclimbing wrote:give you 7 bonuses a turn with 4 borders and good access to
oops its only 3 borders if you have north and south america

Posted:
Wed May 17, 2006 3:23 pm
by Mr. K
South America, but since it's not an option I voted Oceania.

Posted:
Wed May 17, 2006 3:33 pm
by corner G
I dont see why people like South America. it gives a bonus of 2 and has 2 boarders. Oceania gives 2 and only has one boarder.

Posted:
Wed May 17, 2006 3:39 pm
by pevanelagas
Well, in 6 player games if you can get Aussie you can always beef up a different continent(like SA) with those extra troops.

Posted:
Wed May 17, 2006 10:29 pm
by agarvin
corner G wrote:I dont see why people like South America. it gives a bonus of 2 and has 2 boarders. Oceania gives 2 and only has one boarder.
Where do you go once your have Oceania? There's only Asia, which is difficult to hold. You could try for two discontiguous areas, but in my experience, players rarely succeed that way..
If you have a strong foothold in South America, then you have the perfect launching ground for an attack on North America or Africa. Also, if another player is trying to grab either North America or Africa, you can attack them directly. If they're going for Europe, you have only two hops to deprive them of a continent. But so few people go for Asia, you're not in a position to influence the greater game.
Oceania is great if you want to keep out of the way and not be noticed. If you want to have a continent that's easy to get, that gives you leverage to make alliances as well as staging points for future attacks, South America is the one to go for.

Posted:
Wed May 17, 2006 11:31 pm
by Jota
Personally, I'm rather fond of The Aurient.
What?
But I am!

Posted:
Wed May 17, 2006 11:56 pm
by AndyDufresne
Disadvantage of South America though is if other players get smart, they'll eliminate your scattered troops and limit you to perhaps being stuck behind borders of North America and Africa. Tougher to do that in Asia since early on it is the Lost Continent.
--Andy

Posted:
Thu May 18, 2006 10:57 am
by fluffybunnykins
I think I start every game differently. depends where my forces are concentrated. I'm quite fond of Africa, though, when I play at home. two reasons:-
1) our house rules give it a bonus of four and
2) at home it's usually a four-player game
worst start: look at the board and discover "het, great, I'm big in Europe!"

Posted:
Thu May 18, 2006 11:35 am
by Pedronicus
"hey, great, I'm big in Europe!"
This is known as the
'Hass' (Short for David Hasslehoff)