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A simple freestyle strat.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:51 pm
by hitogoroshi
This is an obvious one, but I thought I'd share anyway. Logic dictates one person will learn from this :lol: It might be in one of the various help topics but I didn't want to dig in each one...
This is a RT strat that only works if you have AT LEAST one "region". Unless you're playing an RT game (in which case this is probably obvious to you) this is a freestyle 1v1 when you just happen to catch your opponent. It works like this - if you've been going at it and finishing a round every 5 mins., then wait for your opponent to start and then start yourself. Cash in any sets you have - then get a snack. With luck, your opponent will wear themselves out breaking your bonuses, but you can still collect the bonus for regions you don't own anymore. With this higher number it's easy to reclaim your continents and you can act knowing what your opponent did. An example while on the USA map:

2007-08-12 02:10:42 - Incrementing game to round 8
2007-08-12 02:10:46 - c.bond receives 2 armies for holding West
2007-08-12 02:10:46 - c.bond receives 3 armies for 10 territories
2007-08-12 02:10:54 - c.bond cashed in a set of Georgia, Montana, and Alabama worth 12 armies
2007-08-12 02:10:56 - hitogoroshi receives 8 armies for holding Great Lakes
2007-08-12 02:10:56 - hitogoroshi receives 2 armies for holding New England
2007-08-12 02:10:56 - hitogoroshi receives 3 armies for holding Southeast
2007-08-12 02:10:56 - hitogoroshi receives 10 armies for 32 territories
2007-08-12 02:10:59 - hitogoroshi cashed in a set of Washington, Oregon, and Kentucky worth 15 armies
2007-08-12 02:10:59 - hitogoroshi gets bonus of 2 armies added to Kentucky
2007-08-12 02:11:15 - c.bond deployed 17 armies on Louisiana
2007-08-12 02:11:18 - c.bond attacked Arkansas from Louisiana and conquered it from hitogoroshi
2007-08-12 02:11:30 - c.bond attacked Mississippi from Arkansas and conquered it from hitogoroshi
2007-08-12 02:11:52 - c.bond attacked Missouri from Arkansas and conquered it from hitogoroshi
2007-08-12 02:12:17 - c.bond attacked Kansas from Missouri and conquered it from hitogoroshi
2007-08-12 02:12:41 - c.bond attacked Colorado from Kansas and conquered it from hitogoroshi
2007-08-12 02:13:11 - c.bond gets a card
2007-08-12 02:14:07 - hitogoroshi deployed 8 armies on Illinois
2007-08-12 02:14:14 - hitogoroshi deployed 30 armies on Alabama
2007-08-12 02:14:19 - hitogoroshi attacked Mississippi from Alabama and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:14:23 - hitogoroshi attacked Arkansas from Mississippi and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:14:31 - hitogoroshi attacked Missouri from Illinois and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:14:36 - hitogoroshi attacked Kansas from Missouri and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:14:40 - hitogoroshi attacked Colorado from Kansas and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:14:49 - hitogoroshi attacked Utah from Colorado and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:14:58 - hitogoroshi attacked Louisiana from Arkansas and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:15:03 - hitogoroshi attacked Texas from Louisiana and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:15:08 - hitogoroshi attacked Oklahoma from Texas and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:15:16 - hitogoroshi attacked New Mexico from Oklahoma and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:15:21 - hitogoroshi attacked Arizona from New Mexico and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:15:27 - hitogoroshi attacked Nevada from Arizona and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:15:32 - hitogoroshi attacked California from Nevada and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:15:36 - hitogoroshi attacked Oregon from California and conquered it from c.bond
2007-08-12 02:16:06 - hitogoroshi fortified Idaho with 2 armies from Utah
2007-08-12 02:16:12 - hitogoroshi fortified Idaho with 1 armies from S. Carolina
2007-08-12 02:16:22 - hitogoroshi fortified Oregon with 1 armies from Kentucky
2007-08-12 02:16:36 - hitogoroshi fortified Oregon with 1 armies from Kentucky
2007-08-12 02:16:50 - hitogoroshi gets a card


While I had the higher army count, if I had waited for him to finish it would have dropped quite a bit. And if I had rushed to take my turn at the same time I would not have been deploying to have the Great Lakes on the next turn.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:15 pm
by Rocketry
yea we all knew about that lol. people tend to leave negs for it. i think its legit and all but some people think its cheating.

Rocketry

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:21 pm
by hitogoroshi
Really? Well that explains why no one talks about it. :\ At least I haven't got negged for it...yet...

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:12 pm
by Rocketry
hitogoroshi wrote:Really? Well that explains why no one talks about it. :\ At least I haven't got negged for it...yet...


Im my view - thats freestlye. If you dont like it dont play it.

Rocketry

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:50 am
by BaldAdonis
Rocketry wrote:... but some people think its cheating.


They get an hour to play as well, so they can just as easily wait it out, especially if the other player has more to deploy/attack and might run out of time.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:17 pm
by Bavarian Raven
...i don't see anything wrong with it...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:15 pm
by kalishnikov
Bavarian Raven wrote:...i don't see anything wrong with it...


The people who use it usually don't :)

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:53 pm
by Jade Empire
I think it's an error that should be ammended. Two players shouldn't even be able to play their turns at the same time. Also.. why do you get an entire hour to take your turn?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:41 am
by EmperorOfDaNorth
There's a topic elsewhere on this forum with some suggested changes to the Freestyle format.

I think it's mostly aimed at the worst of the abuses, i.e. if you play first in a turn then wait it out until there's like 20 seconds left, then quickly start & finish without enogh time for the other guy to even have a go.

THAT I think is NOT Freestyle. But simply timing when you start & finish your moves indeed that's all in the game.

Meh, people leave negs over just about anything in Freestyle; those people should just go find a format better suited to them. Like some people even get upset if you quickly start a turn to take out the last remaining guy when another guy did most of the work and is on his way eliminating him.. then suddenly you snatch the last guy and the cards. :) This, simply, is war. :)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:32 pm
by Kinnison
It's FREESTYLE, which bears about as much resemblance to Sequential, strategy-wise as DOOM does to Master of Orion.

Not that freestyle is inferior, I don't think it is. However, it's a VERY different playstyle. One which I cheerfully admit doesn't suit me NEARLY as well as Sequential. If I'm on vacation, and can LIVE at the computer for a few days, I might play some freestyle again. Having a regimented schedule with freestyle games ticking over in the background... doesn't work for me... as I've found out to my ranking's dismay. ;)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:04 am
by EmperorOfDaNorth
Oh, you of course need the CC app for your Nokia/Symbian phone that polls game status through GPRS internet continuously no matter where you are or what time of the day or night, and immediately applies your preconfigured move(s). Or at least just immediately "start turn" and then alert you.

Thought that goes without saying right?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:45 pm
by pogophiles
The larger question is why you would play a 1v1 freestyle game...

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:11 pm
by Herakilla
pogophiles wrote:The larger question is why you would play a 1v1 freestyle game...


lol

PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:45 am
by Jade Empire
Yeah, sequential and freestyle are definitely two different ballgames. I'm a new player and have played almost exclusively freestlye games thinking that they would take less time. But now i've learned that I actually end up spending way more time taking my turns and waiting than I would in a sequential match. I think if I get a premium membership I will switch to playing sequential games just to avoid all of the hastles of freestyle.