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39 round Doodle Earth game

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:15 pm
by moo_lol
I just played a Doodle Earth game that lasted 39 rounds! Is that a record? We weren't playing defensively either. We were very aggressive and attacked every round. Check it out here.

Re: 39 round Doodle Earth game

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:17 pm
by john1099
moo_lol wrote:I just played a Doodle Earth game that lasted 39 rounds! Is that a record? We weren't playing defensively either. We were very aggressive and attacked every round. Check it out here.

It's because you both suck ass.

:)

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:18 pm
by Wild_Tiger
ehmmmm right 39 rounds with 1 vs 1...

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:19 pm
by firth4eva
coz you only get 3 all the time

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:52 pm
by Khan_Kast
I had a 4 player 50 round match the other day. It was speed but it lasted 3 hours.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:43 pm
by The1exile
that's no cards.

The longest one I can find of mine (just skimming through is 28 rounds.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:48 pm
by firth4eva

Re: 39 round Doodle Earth game

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 12:26 am
by benjikat
moo_lol wrote:I just played a Doodle Earth game that lasted 39 rounds! Is that a record? We weren't playing defensively either. We were very aggressive and attacked every round. Check it out here.


I have played over 100 1v1 games on Doodle Earth, using no cards adjacent, and have had a few games go way into the 20s of rounds and at least one over 30. All the games had attacks most turns.
This is indeed because you only get 3 armies per turn unless you have either a) won b) have a continent or c) someone has attacked at least one neutral. This also accounts for the fact that I have had a few comeback wins from a single army.
Many may dismiss this map as being rather trivial and silly, but I think that it creates a game where the basic tactics of CC are exposed to the greatest extent - in particular knowledge, understanding and most importantly execution of the dice probabilities really come to the fore, as do the relative value of various army arrangements - i.e. do you defend with 5/1, 4/2, 3/3, 2/4, or 1/5 configurations - IMO all are valid at various stages of the game, but with most important factor being figuring out how your opponent is likely to react to certain setups - i.e. how does your opponents psychological reaction to a board position differ from the actual dice probabilities involved. I think I have got my ideas on all of the above pretty clear for myself (although there is bound to be a foil strategy), but this si where the otehr key CC lesson comes in - because this map has so few armies etc, the number of dice rolled can be very small, and the smaller any "random" sample set, the more variance one should expect. So there can be a few games where you lose the first 8 rolls in a row which makes a comeback very difficult (or does it? - pm me with/for the answer!).

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:35 am
by The1exile

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 1:17 pm
by Rocketry
The1exile wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=882552

70 rounds.


Thats me lol

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:25 pm
by lalaland
I just finished a 3 player 42 rounds on Doodle.

Isn't it funny that people didn't like the map at first cuz they thought the games would end too quickly :?: :roll:

Re: 39 round Doodle Earth game

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:43 pm
by AAFitz
benjikat wrote:
moo_lol wrote:I just played a Doodle Earth game that lasted 39 rounds! Is that a record? We weren't playing defensively either. We were very aggressive and attacked every round. Check it out here.


I have played over 100 1v1 games on Doodle Earth, using no cards adjacent, and have had a few games go way into the 20s of rounds and at least one over 30. All the games had attacks most turns.
This is indeed because you only get 3 armies per turn unless you have either a) won b) have a continent or c) someone has attacked at least one neutral. This also accounts for the fact that I have had a few comeback wins from a single army.
Many may dismiss this map as being rather trivial and silly, but I think that it creates a game where the basic tactics of CC are exposed to the greatest extent - in particular knowledge, understanding and most importantly execution of the dice probabilities really come to the fore, as do the relative value of various army arrangements - i.e. do you defend with 5/1, 4/2, 3/3, 2/4, or 1/5 configurations - IMO all are valid at various stages of the game, but with most important factor being figuring out how your opponent is likely to react to certain setups - i.e. how does your opponents psychological reaction to a board position differ from the actual dice probabilities involved. I think I have got my ideas on all of the above pretty clear for myself (although there is bound to be a foil strategy), but this si where the otehr key CC lesson comes in - because this map has so few armies etc, the number of dice rolled can be very small, and the smaller any "random" sample set, the more variance one should expect. So there can be a few games where you lose the first 8 rolls in a row which makes a comeback very difficult (or does it? - pm me with/for the answer!).


as i recall you also played a bunch of 1vs 1 that ended in exactly 3 rounds.....and you becoming a private....

probably shouldnt have brought that up, but such a good story :D

Re: 39 round Doodle Earth game

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:01 am
by Rocketry
benjikat wrote:
moo_lol wrote:I just played a Doodle Earth game that lasted 39 rounds! Is that a record? We weren't playing defensively either. We were very aggressive and attacked every round. Check it out here.


I have played over 100 1v1 games on Doodle Earth, using no cards adjacent, and have had a few games go way into the 20s of rounds and at least one over 30. All the games had attacks most turns.
This is indeed because you only get 3 armies per turn unless you have either a) won b) have a continent or c) someone has attacked at least one neutral. This also accounts for the fact that I have had a few comeback wins from a single army.
Many may dismiss this map as being rather trivial and silly, but I think that it creates a game where the basic tactics of CC are exposed to the greatest extent - in particular knowledge, understanding and most importantly execution of the dice probabilities really come to the fore, as do the relative value of various army arrangements - i.e. do you defend with 5/1, 4/2, 3/3, 2/4, or 1/5 configurations - IMO all are valid at various stages of the game, but with most important factor being figuring out how your opponent is likely to react to certain setups - i.e. how does your opponents psychological reaction to a board position differ from the actual dice probabilities involved. I think I have got my ideas on all of the above pretty clear for myself (although there is bound to be a foil strategy), but this si where the otehr key CC lesson comes in - because this map has so few armies etc, the number of dice rolled can be very small, and the smaller any "random" sample set, the more variance one should expect. So there can be a few games where you lose the first 8 rolls in a row which makes a comeback very difficult (or does it? - pm me with/for the answer!).


i think what this guy means is...

when you have so few amies, the 3 you get per turn seem quite a lot.

Rocketry

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:57 pm
by moo_lol
Since I made the original post, I've played many many more of these 1v1 Doodles with no cards. Now I know that 39 rounds is above average, but not unusual in any way. (I've also come to some the same conclusions as you, benjikat. We could exchange pm's about this game's strategy if you want.)

Sorry to make a mountain out of a molehill, CC!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:09 am
by Running_Wolves
64 rounds and still going strong!

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=780804

ps. this was not planned.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:13 am
by nagerous
big wow, this is a thread about doodle earth 1vs1 not world 2.1 6 player games which can go on for a long time.