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Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:09 am**

I have seen alot of shit thrown about the forums and mainly directed towards krusher!

Ex-mod Iceman throwing his weight behind the charge and even making posts in general discusions which should really belong in the flame wars. An ex mod should know better and thank god he is a mod no longer!!!

If krusher is found not guilty of charges against him does he get the right to sue all the people that have slandered him in the most horrible of ways??

Ps..i see alot of jealous, burnt out people out there! Case to note when the rules of Freestyle were changed everyone thought JR would slide but he is back up there proving his doubters very wrong.

So lets stop all this shit and let the mods do the job!

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:13 am**

hulmey wrote:If krusher is found not guilty of charges against him does he get the right to sue all the people that have slandered him in the most horrible of ways??

That's gotta be one of the most pathetic things I've ever read on the forum. Sue somebody because they made fun of him on a internet forum? :lol:

And yes, thank god I'm no longer a mod! Too many whiners always complaining about everything.

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:23 am**

Hulmey
And if Krusher is found to be a cheat will you be man enough to thank those who helped the mods to nail him ?

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:31 am**

i agree with the idea of not blackening someone's name outside flame wars (flame wars is a different story) but the evidence against krusher is overwhelming IMHO.

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:04 am**

Jr used to be th target before coz of his freestyle games. But now he is in the Top 10 again!

Your turning into one of them whiners yourself AK by writing long posts just coz krusher kicked your arse LMAO. hmmmm

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:09 am**

You're right hulmey... By me filling out a C&A report and asking for an investigation against a suspected cheater, I've turned into one of those whiners.

Or were you talking about my joke thread, where I compared krusher to a person on Death Row?

Either way, you'll be eating your words when the Mod Squad posts the real verdict. I'll take krusher on in a fair game any day. It really doesn't take a lot of skill to win when you're cheating. :roll:

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:15 am**

rebelman wrote:the evidence against krusher is overwhelming IMHO.

QFT.

What makes you so sure Krusher is such an angel Hulmey?

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:18 am**

Syzygy wrote:
rebelman wrote:the evidence against krusher is overwhelming IMHO.

QFT.

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:44 am**

hulmey wrote:If krusher is found not guilty of charges against him does he get the right to sue all the people that have slandered him in the most horrible of ways??

Slander is spoken word -> Libel is written word.

C.

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 5:48 am**

happy2seeyou wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
rebelman wrote:the evidence against krusher is overwhelming IMHO.

QFT.

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:26 am**

it seems your all detectives [size=0]not[/size]. i dont know if he is guilty or not...but the bitching that is going on is so lame. Let the mods decide and then flame his arse.....

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:42 am**

AK_iceman wrote:I'll take krusher on in a fair game any day. It really doesn't take a lot of skill to win when you're cheating.

GFT!!!

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:22 am**

for the good of humanity, hulmey really needs to be shot before he procreates or infects any more of us w/ his stupidity. i will buy the bullet.....

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:44 am**

hulmey wrote:it seems your all detectives [size=0]not[/size]. i dont know if he is guilty or not...but the bitching that is going on is so lame. Let the mods decide and then flame his arse.....

dude, have you even read the fucking thread? there are PMs to about 6 different people asking for help in throwing games.

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:15 am**

Nephilim wrote:for the good of humanity, hulmey really needs to be shot before he procreates or infects any more of us w/ his stupidity. i will buy the bullet.....

I hereby pledge the sum of one whole English Pound to your notable and worthy cause.

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:14 pm**

one pund!! u tight f*ck!!! And neph after shooting me , put the gun inyour mouth and blow your brains out coz ur one ugly motherfucker!

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:19 pm**

hulmey wrote:one pund!! u tight f*ck!!! And neph after shooting me , put the gun inyour mouth and blow your brains out coz ur one ugly motherfucker!

Weren't you just complaining about people posting stuff that should only be posted in Flame Wars?

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:27 pm**

Remember where you are guys... this isn't the FW. Why don't we all just wait for the official announcement? I'll go kick Andy in the butt to put it out there... :twisted:

edit... here ya go... didn't even have to use the whip :twisted:

http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=884362

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:41 pm**

hulmey wrote:it seems your all detectives [size=0]not[/size]. i dont know if he is guilty or not...but the bitching that is going on is so lame. Let the mods decide and then flame his arse.....

well the mods are just players like you and me that have chosen, and been chosen to make the official decisions, but this place is to a large extent community regulated. The moderators work with other players to decide what is best for the site, and what the majority like. Also, in cases like this, the community jumps in to offer their opinion. In this case.... most seem to think asking teammates to suicide into other players is cheating.

There really is no question if it is cheating, since its a clear violation of the no secret alliance rule, and no throwing game rules. So the only possible way there is no cheating here, is if the players who came forward that said krusher asked them to attack other players are lying.

Do you believe they are lying??

I dont. I believe that many people saw suspicious behavior, and then two people admitted it. Punishment by the moderators will be the official punishment, but it is important for players to post disapproval of such things to discourage it from happening in the future. Im all for making sure theres just reason to make such accusations, and in this case, its pretty clear there is.

If players cheat, or act unsportsmanlike, or do any number of negative things... the community will call them out. Its how such behavior is kept in check.

That being said. Krusher's a 16 year old kid... I more or less expect such behavior from kids....as seriously as some of us take CC, it is just a game in the end...he'll almost certainly will lose his premium, and be blocked, and have a score reset as suggested. And he will either come back and play by the rules, or get busted again and be banned forever. Ive seen many players come and go, and do some damage in their time here, but the negative ones, always burn out after a while, and the better players will always persevere.

In any case, hopefully he learned his lesson, and hopefully those thinking they can do the same thing, realize they can probably get away with it for a short time, but it will mean being ignored by most players, and hated and flamed by many.

Hopefully he isnt as dishonest in real life, as he has been in here, but there are many people without character in the world... if he wants to be one of them... so be it...

I hope he enjoyed the little star by his name....

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:43 pm**

hulmey wrote:I have seen alot of shit thrown about the forums and mainly directed towards krusher!

Ex-mod Iceman throwing his weight behind the charge and even making posts in general discusions which should really belong in the flame wars. An ex mod should know better and thank god he is a mod no longer!!!

If krusher is found not guilty of charges against him does he get the right to sue all the people that have slandered him in the most horrible of ways??

Ps..i see alot of jealous, burnt out people out there! Case to note when the rules of Freestyle were changed everyone thought JR would slide but he is back up there proving his doubters very wrong.

So lets stop all this shit and let the mods do the job!

Dont include me in your post. "slide" ? you just stated yourself, "the rules were changed". So I never broke any rules. Out of 6,000 turns played in freestyle singles, about 20 times I let the clock wind down to hopefully get 2 turns in a row. I only did this if I felt it was needed to get an advantage. Not once did I ever complain about the tactic being made against me. I guess you never thought of that. Thats right, I lost games because the same tactic was applied against me. Alot of players were doing it ( not just a single example like Krusher or SkyT ) and the rules were changed because of it. You did nail 1 good point though. My score has risen 1,100 points in the last 3 weeks which was well after the new rule has gone into affect. I kept telling everyone that I am actually behind in points in 1 vs 1 games and there was no way the 20 turns were abusive. I do not need freestyle games to climb the scoreboard.

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:47 pm**

Update...which i wish i read 15 minutes ago

he was busted, and stripped, and blocked...as predicted, and as deserved

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:49 pm**

AAFitz wrote:
hulmey wrote:it seems your all detectives [size=0]not[/size]. i dont know if he is guilty or not...but the bitching that is going on is so lame. Let the mods decide and then flame his arse.....

well the mods are just players like you and me that have chosen, and been chosen to make the official decisions, but this place is to a large extent community regulated. The moderators work with other players to decide what is best for the site, and what the majority like. Also, in cases like this, the community jumps in to offer their opinion. In this case.... most seem to think asking teammates to suicide into other players is cheating.

There really is no question if it is cheating, since its a clear violation of the no secret alliance rule, and no throwing game rules. So the only possible way there is no cheating here, is if the players who came forward that said krusher asked them to attack other players are lying.

Do you believe they are lying??

I dont. I believe that many people saw suspicious behavior, and then two people admitted it. Punishment by the moderators will be the official punishment, but it is important for players to post disapproval of such things to discourage it from happening in the future. Im all for making sure theres just reason to make such accusations, and in this case, its pretty clear there is.

If players cheat, or act unsportsmanlike, or do any number of negative things... the community will call them out. Its how such behavior is kept in check.

That being said. Krusher's a 16 year old kid... I more or less expect such behavior from kids....as seriously as some of us take CC, it is just a game in the end...he'll almost certainly will lose his premium, and be blocked, and have a score reset as suggested. And he will either come back and play by the rules, or get busted again and be banned forever. Ive seen many players come and go, and do some damage in their time here, but the negative ones, always burn out after a while, and the better players will always persevere.

In any case, hopefully he learned his lesson, and hopefully those thinking they can do the same thing, realize they can probably get away with it for a short time, but it will mean being ignored by most players, and hated and flamed by many.

Hopefully he isnt as dishonest in real life, as he has been in here, but there are many people without character in the world... if he wants to be one of them... so be it...

I hope he enjoyed the little star by his name....

great post (glad you hadn't noticed the ruling had already made, as we would never have had this post then)

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:24 pm**

hulmey wrote:I have seen alot of shit thrown about the forums and mainly directed towards krusher!

Ex-mod Iceman throwing his weight behind the charge and even making posts in general discusions which should really belong in the flame wars. An ex mod should know better and thank god he is a mod no longer!!!

If krusher is found not guilty of charges against him does he get the right to sue all the people that have slandered him in the most horrible of ways??

Ps..i see alot of jealous, burnt out people out there! Case to note when the rules of Freestyle were changed everyone thought JR would slide but he is back up there proving his doubters very wrong.

So lets stop all this shit and let the mods do the job!

no worrys hulmey I dont get mad, I get even. sueing Ice would be the last thing that would come to my mind what can I say the fucker brought me down but its cool "He who laughs last, laughs best"

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:30 pm**

krusher wrote:
hulmey wrote:I have seen alot of shit thrown about the forums and mainly directed towards krusher!

Ex-mod Iceman throwing his weight behind the charge and even making posts in general discusions which should really belong in the flame wars. An ex mod should know better and thank god he is a mod no longer!!!

If krusher is found not guilty of charges against him does he get the right to sue all the people that have slandered him in the most horrible of ways??

Ps..i see alot of jealous, burnt out people out there! Case to note when the rules of Freestyle were changed everyone thought JR would slide but he is back up there proving his doubters very wrong.

So lets stop all this shit and let the mods do the job!

no worrys hulmey I dont get mad, I get even. sueing Ice would be the last thing that would come to my mind what can I say the fucker brought me down but its cool "He who laughs last, laughs best"

I am sure lack will enjoy the additional 20 bucks :lol:

Posted: **Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:40 pm**

Now that Krusher has been found guilty any defamation actions would be moot,
so you can stop kissing his ass now hulmey.

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