Conquer Club

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:04 pm**

I'm sure I'm not the only one that goes insane everytime they play him. His cockiness can get so annoying after playing him a few times. The last time I played him he won because I lost a 66v59 roll. I should have won that roll but because I lost it he won the game and ranted how my strategy is awful (though it wins 75-80% of the time). I wish he would stop sharing his account with roomates. It is sometimes difficult to believe his 380 out of 400 record. Just had to vent a little. Does anyone else have similar experiences with "CC's top predator"

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:07 pm**

i think his role playing is fun.

66vs 59 insnt that bad. lossing 66 to 33 is like losing 2 to 1.. so yea..

but i can see y it would annoy some people

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:15 pm**

dickwad

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:18 pm**

terrafutan wrote:dickwad

I wouldn't go as far as to call him a dickwad. Guys this isn't a hating thread. I don't hate Wilderbeast. I just find him tought to talk to with a straight face.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:39 pm**

in my experience with him, he says nothing in the chat until it looks like he is going to win, then he begins with the bravado. he may have roommates, but i dont think they play on cc, just a good lie so he can talk alot of shit.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:43 pm**

Sorry to say but he does have room mates as I have talked to them. They have conquerclub accounts just not premium so they can't play all the games they want.
Usernames are Aces, CrimsonDeath.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:47 pm**

Risktaker17 wrote:
terrafutan wrote:dickwad

I wouldn't go as far as to call him a dickwad. Guys this isn't a hating thread. I don't hate Wilderbeast. I just find him tought to talk to with a straight face.

Never played him and I'm going to avoid because of all the talk on the forums. The roommate thing smells fishy, and no doubt his room smells a bit with 20 transient students in it, all of whom can't afford a computer.
I could pick up a second hand lap-top, internet connection, and CC membership for £60 / $100. Not a vast stretch of the wallet.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:06 pm**

I think he probably does have roommates who play on his account. However his claim that he has 95%+ win rate is preposterous, but hey I guess he can say whatever he wants, doesn't mean anyone has to believe him :wink:

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:10 pm**

Genghis Khan CA wrote:I think he probably does have roommates who play on his account. However his claim that he has 95%+ win rate is preposterous, but hey I guess he can say whatever he wants, doesn't mean anyone has to believe him

true, im sure he doesnt need us to believe him for him to feel that his ego has been defended. the reason i doubt that the roommates exist is that anyone as arrogant as him would certainly want to protect his score and would not let his roommates on his account, lol.

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:11 pm**

never played him
cant help ya

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:47 pm**

-ShadySoul- wrote:never played him
cant help ya

Then what's the point of saying anything! Did I say Shady Soul please answer this post?

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:51 pm**

terrafutan wrote:dickwad

Lol, I thought that was pointed towards risk, untill I read a little. And I'm pretty sure I saw some old man holding a sign saying 'ShadySoul, PLEASE, POST HERE SO MY LIFE CAN BE COMEPLETE' while I was on my way in...

Posted: **Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:04 pm**

I've never had a problem with him!

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:27 am**

The guy has won 46% of his game and is only a corporal, nothing to be cocky about.

Tell him off

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:20 pm**

search flame wars for him to expose his lies. I still have 10 games pending that he refuses to join in order to prove that he is as good as he claims.

He even promised to PM every game he played in as himself (as opposed to room mates) when the game started. He PM'd one game in which all of his opponents were his "roommates" I have not heard from him since.

He is a fraud and a multi. Until he plays and beats me in those 10 games he is a sham.

Interestingly, when he was trying to prove what a tough guy he was about a month ago, he claimed to win 95% of his games something like 400 out of 420. Now he is claiming to win alot less.

He fails to acknowledge that his preferred games are 1v1, and it is all but statistically impossible to win more than 75% of 1v1 games.

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:01 pm**

Harijan wrote:search flame wars for him to expose his lies. I still have 10 games pending that he refuses to join in order to prove that he is as good as he claims.

He even promised to PM every game he played in as himself (as opposed to room mates) when the game started. He PM'd one game in which all of his opponents were his "roommates" I have not heard from him since.

He is a fraud and a multi. Until he plays and beats me in those 10 games he is a sham.

Interestingly, when he was trying to prove what a tough guy he was about a month ago, he claimed to win 95% of his games something like 400 out of 420. Now he is claiming to win alot less.

He fails to acknowledge that his preferred games are 1v1, and it is all but statistically impossible to win more than 75% of 1v1 games.

How is it statistically impossible to win more than 75% of 1v1 games?

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:06 pm**

Harijan wrote:search flame wars for him to expose his lies. I still have 10 games pending that he refuses to join in order to prove that he is as good as he claims.

He even promised to PM every game he played in as himself (as opposed to room mates) when the game started. He PM'd one game in which all of his opponents were his "roommates" I have not heard from him since.

He is a fraud and a multi. Until he plays and beats me in those 10 games he is a sham.

Interestingly, when he was trying to prove what a tough guy he was about a month ago, he claimed to win 95% of his games something like 400 out of 420. Now he is claiming to win alot less.

He fails to acknowledge that his preferred games are 1v1, and it is all but statistically impossible to win more than 75% of 1v1 games.

NO IT'S TRUE THAT HE HAS ROOM MATES. THEY PLAY CONQUERCLUB GO TO MY FIRST POST THAT SHOWS BOTH THEIR ACCOUNTS. ONE THING IS THAT I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE BASHING OTHERS WITHOUT THE TRUTH AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS THREAD. I CAN'T GUARANTEE 95% WINS BUT HE'S GOOD.

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:06 pm**

Risktaker17 wrote:I'm sure I'm not the only one that goes insane everytime they play him. His cockiness can get so annoying after playing him a few times. The last time I played him he won because I lost a 66v59 roll. I should have won that roll but because I lost it he won the game and ranted how my strategy is awful (though it wins 75-80% of the time). I wish he would stop sharing his account with roomates. It is sometimes difficult to believe his 380 out of 400 record. Just had to vent a little. Does anyone else have similar experiences with "CC's top predator" I prefer Shady Soul's response.

Risktaker17 wrote:
-ShadySoul- wrote:never played him
cant help ya

Then what's the point of saying anything! Did I say Shady Soul please answer this post?

I believe you did.

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:08 pm**

Well done changing my original text Paradice.

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:09 pm**

No that was already there, trust me...

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:21 pm**

anyway congrats on 1500 posts.

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2007 5:56 pm**

that not so bad it will and might get worse

Posted: **Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:32 pm**

Risktaker17 wrote:anyway congrats on 1500 posts.

thanks

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:06 am**

Risktaker17 wrote:[
How is it statistically impossible to win more than 75% of 1v1 games?

I said nearly impossible. The math is tiresome, but essentially if you have 2 people randomly dividing 2/3 of the territories, then using dice that are also random to try and kill each other, there will be a portion of the games that randomly give huge advantages to one player the other. Assuming that the players are actually playing to win and not coluding, there will be games in which there is almost no way to win from the get go. For example, in a 1v1 game if you are given Aus, and S.A. on the drop, it would be almost impossible to beat you. Even if you are give either S.A. or Aus. on the drop your chances of winning significantly higher.

This is why even the top rated players on CC only have win percentages of around 70%. Even the best players are dealt games they cannot win.

Posted: **Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:12 am**

JesusReigns wrote:NO IT'S TRUE THAT HE HAS ROOM MATES. THEY PLAY CONQUERCLUB GO TO MY FIRST POST THAT SHOWS BOTH THEIR ACCOUNTS. ONE THING IS THAT I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE BASHING OTHERS WITHOUT THE TRUTH AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS THREAD. I CAN'T GUARANTEE 95% WINS BUT HE'S GOOD.

First off, loose the CAPS it is annoying.

Second, you are presenting two different arguments here and neither of them are the argument I made.

I said he is a liar and he refuses to prove that he can win 95% of his games even though I have given him several ways to try and prove it.

I am not arguing that he has roommates that play on his account, that could be true. Nor am I arguing that he is not a good player, he may very well be.

What I am saying is that he claims to have won 95% of his games, but he refuses to take any test or challenge that support his claim. Unfortunately, the only evidence we have to fall back on is his record, which, as pointed out is significantly less than what he claims.

This argument has been hashed out at great length in flame wars. do a search and you will find it. There are numerous other holes in his story that you can find on that thread.

What I find odd is how many fan bois wilderbeast has, his clan must just worship him. No matter what evidence is presented, they just go on drinking the Kool-aid.