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Postby McEvil on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:09 pm

I didn't want to do this but I feel it is necessary given the hypocrisy of the Stachewhacker blanket banning.

First I'd like to say that yes I made up a secondary account when I first started here just to explore the site and find out if I wanted to buy a premium membership. I decided it was worth it and I only use (evilclown) now. You can look up my games all you want I never used both accounts at the same time and haven't used this one in months.

As evilclown I have used the callout forum mostly to create and/or join real time games. I have had very few posts in the flame wars or the other forums.

Last night when this blanket banning was enforced I emailed Twill to get some light shed on why I was banned. I made it clear that I didn't feel my fellow stachers should have been banned but I definitely didn't feel I should have been banned. I rarely flame, I never spammed and I don't think any of my 20 posts were any more vulgar than say Patroclus'. He has made reference that we should all burn in hell (ridicuous) also said that if he met any of us he would shoot us in the nuts. Not that I think any of what he said was banworthy but certainly moreso than most of what the stachers have written.

Anyway, back to the emails (I sent three). Its been over 20 hours and I still haven't gotten a reply.

I ask anyone to do a simple search and view my posts to see if anything I said or did was banworthy.

Now onto Pedronicus. Why was he banned? Just for simply saying that he would join the clan? Or was it b/c he had the audacity to join the clan in a simple contest against the mods.

I would like one of the Mods to review this post or my emails and give me some sort of reason as to why I was banned.......Or many of the other Stachers whose only crime was to be apart of a clan.
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Postby Ronaldinho on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:21 pm

First I'd like to say that yes I made up a secondary account when I first started here just to explore the site and find out if I wanted to buy a premium membership



HaHa unlucky BANNED!!!! explore? you agree'd to just have one account, you breeched the contract. Bye :twisted:
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Postby McEvil on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:23 pm

Yeah, thats fine....I didn't cheat or anything and bought a premium membership so that I could play risk-like game...but if they want to ban me for simply trying out their site then I really don't care.
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Postby Ronaldinho on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:25 pm

leave then. Go on WAW
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Postby McEvil on Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:43 pm

Ronaldinho wrote:leave then. Go on WAW


I didn't say I was leaving. I said if they want to ban me for simply trying out their site several months ago before buying a premium membership then that is their prerogative. I really think the reason they don't want multiple accounts is to keep people from cheating not from trying out their site anyway. And I never once played in the same game with two accounts.

Anyway you are only detracting from the point of this post. I just want an explanation as to why evilclown was banned.
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Postby wicked on Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:05 pm

well you admitted to having multiple accounts, which breaks Rule #1 of CC. Is that not reason enough? Everyone is allowed a free chance to try out the site for as long as they want, and no one is ever pressured to buy premium.
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Postby Ronaldinho on Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:08 pm

wicked wrote:well you admitted to having multiple accounts, which breaks Rule #1 of CC. Is that not reason enough? Everyone is allowed a free chance to try out the site for as long as they want, and no one is ever pressured to buy premium.


i was about to get to that :wink: saved me the trouble wicked thanks :)
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Postby McEvil on Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:21 pm

wicked wrote:well you admitted to having multiple accounts, which breaks Rule #1 of CC. Is that not reason enough? Everyone is allowed a free chance to try out the site for as long as they want, and no one is ever pressured to buy premium.


Hey, like I said if you guys want to ban me b/c I made up 2 accts. just to check the site out that's fine....That isn't why I was banned though, and I'd like to know why I was. I didn't say I was pressured to buy a premium. I said based on enjoying the site I decided it was worth it.

I never upset the integrity of the game by playing at the same time with two different accounts.

And I am sure that there are other, more respected members of this site that did the same thing to see if having a premium was worth it.
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Postby cyberdaniel on Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:38 am

But see, you are still a multi and the fact that u just got a ban from the forum is a small punishment. You are lucky that this is a liberal site. I'm playing a lot of online games and most games aren't as liberal. For the simple fact that you have 2 accounts you would get banned from the whole game even if you paid for some extra services (premium in the case of CC).
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Postby mightyal on Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:02 am

Evil, I don't understand why you couldn't upgrade the Mc account to premium rather than starting the clown one.

cyberD He wasn't banned for his monkey acct; he was banned for having facial hair
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Postby D.IsleRealBrown on Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:07 am

I'm guessing he wanted his normal handle.

I feel his pain.
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Postby evilclown on Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:23 pm

mightyal wrote:Evil, I don't understand why you couldn't upgrade the Mc account to premium rather than starting the clown one.

cyberD He wasn't banned for his monkey acct; he was banned for having facial hair


I'll just say that I made a mistake when I first joined and made two accounts....Again, and for the last time, I did not use the other account to cheat in any way. To be honest, I could care less about the point system. The mods could do away with my points altogether and it wouldn't bother me...Set me on permanent zero....I am just here to have fun and play a strategic, turn-based game.
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Postby aceofcups on Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:37 am

Evil wrote the following "I never used both accounts at the same time and haven't used this one in months. " If this is true then in my book it prooves that he had no intention of cheating. Yes Wicked is right insofar as the LETTER of the law was broken. But what about the ethos the created the law?Surely a balanced view would not justify a ban.For this reason it is my view that the mods are being (disappointingly)heavyhanded and as evil said he paid money to this site.The powers that be took the money but i am not aware of any offer (given a dispute is taking place) to refund him.Evil there are at least three other sites where you can play online...check out "risk sites" in the forum..I wish you well and i do agree that you have been unfairly treated....
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Postby wicked on Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:32 am

well Ace, if you MUST bring this back up, a rule is a rule, nowhere does it say it's open to your interpretation. If you're pulled over for speeding, chances are you'll get a ticket for breaking the law. It doesnt' matter that the road was probably designed for you to drive faster than the speed limit; the speed limit is the speed limit, you break it, the officer is within every right to give you a ticket. And the ban was not for games, only for the forum.
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:48 am

Sure I'll chime in. Wicked should have mentioned this was only a 24hour ban and is history.

The Clown is a happy member of CC comunity and is free to post drivel such as the kind of thing I'm posting right now. :D
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Postby ZawBanjito on Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:51 am

This stache affair has been handled piss poorly, and maybe evilclown didn't deserve what he got. And there's nothing incredibly wrong with what he did (i.e. create a second account for a limited time prior to buying premium) either, as far as I'm concerned. I know (and suspect) loads of people who did it in the early days (although certainly I don't advocate this...)

But what I see here is a guy what got banned then used a second account to evade the ban so he could come on here and complain like he's owed something.

What you want man? You didn't pay money to use the forums and you sure as heck don't pay enough money to keep Twill off his holiday... which is, incidentally, the answer to your original question, an answer that has been widely available to anyone who has been paying attention. Three emails in 20 hours and no reply! Why, for such a thing to happen a person would have to be busy for... an entire whole day! Obviously you're being maliciously ignored. The simple truth is: Twill banned you and went awaaay. He'll be back. No bloody conspiracy is present. Why should anyone care enough to put the effort into such a thing? How COULD anyone care? I thought the reasoning behind the stache ban was that absolutely nobody cared what they said except themselves.

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Postby wicked on Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:00 pm

drivel is your middle name 2dimes...
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Postby 2dimes on Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:01 pm

No but it must be a fairly common description of my collective works.
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Postby wicked on Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:02 pm

Drivel of the Dimes .... buy it now in used paperback .. used for what, we don't know
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Postby johnnyrotten on Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:08 pm

wicked wrote:well you admitted to having multiple accounts, which breaks Rule #1 of CC. Is that not reason enough? Everyone is allowed a free chance to try out the site for as long as they want, and no one is ever pressured to buy premium.

Is lack not punished for having 'admin' as well as 'lackattack'? :lol:
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Postby wicked on Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:10 pm

yeah we punish him .... often ...
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Postby johnnyrotten on Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:12 pm

:( How comes you never give me punishment wick...?
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Postby wicked on Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:20 pm

fine Johhny, tell us all your multi accounts and we'll punish you severely...
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Postby johnnyrotten on Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:29 pm

Twill, Joe McCarthy, SMITH197, qeee1, Marvaddin, AndyDufresne, Scarus... there are more...
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Postby wicked on Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:30 pm

OK, we'll just ban you then ... ba-bye!
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