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I didn't put this in the abuse section, because as far as I can tell, he/she doesn't cheat, and is strategically very good.

However, this handle is highly offensive, and I'm wondering why it is allowed.

Put him on your ignore list like I have done.

what's offensive about it ?

greenoaks wrote:what's offensive about it ?

It's a racist slang-term for asian people.

Snorri1234 wrote:

greenoaks wrote:what's offensive about it ?

It's a racist slang-term for asian people.

seriously now a simple google search is always helpful

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring

greenoaks wrote:what's offensive about it ?

A little history lesson? : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring
In particular:

Göring was the highest figure in the Nazi hierarchy to issue written orders for the "final solution of the Jewish Question"

I agree with CC's policy of being very relaxed about usernames, but am glad that I have a way of showing my objection.

It is possible,that some other real person have same Name like Herrman Goering?

qwert wrote:It is possible,that some other real person have same Name like Herrman Goering?

I agree! It is as strong a possibility as being christened after the shortened nickname for the configuration of a type-writer keyboard!

BENJIKAT IS DEAD wrote:

greenoaks wrote:what's offensive about it ?

A little history lesson? : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring
In particular:

Göring was the highest figure in the Nazi hierarchy to issue written orders for the "final solution of the Jewish Question"

I agree with CC's policy of being very relaxed about usernames, but am glad that I have a way of showing my objection.

on this site we play a wargame where the objective is to completely annihilate the enemy and conquer the world, country, city, etc. Hermann was a dude who tried to do that very thing.

so once again, what is offensive about using his name and not others ? afterall there are people on this site using ghengis khan as the basis of their username. he had a procedure known as measuring the linchpin. that is where you are passed before the wheel of a wagon and anyone whose head rose above the linchpin was beheaded. in effect the enemy tribe would cease to exist. genocide.

greenoaks wrote:

BENJIKAT IS DEAD wrote:

greenoaks wrote:what's offensive about it ?

A little history lesson? : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring
In particular:

Göring was the highest figure in the Nazi hierarchy to issue written orders for the "final solution of the Jewish Question"

I agree with CC's policy of being very relaxed about usernames, but am glad that I have a way of showing my objection.

on this site we play a wargame where the objective is to completely annihilate the enemy and conquer the world, country, city, etc. Hermann was a dude who tried to do that very thing.

so once again, what is offensive about using his name and not others ? afterall there are people on this site using ghengis khan as the basis of their username. he had a procedure known as measuring the linchpin. that is where you are passed before the wheel of a wagon and anyone whose head rose above the linchpin was beheaded. in effect the enemy tribe would cease to exist. genocide.

i do agree.. many historical figures have 'murdered' raped and conquered.. it is just who wins that makes the difference as to how easy it is for us to remember them.

I really see no offense here, all you have managed to do is to make the CC community aware of yet another vague slur, that potential ass's can use. Did you know that eating with your left hand is highly offensive in some cultures, as well as giving the 'ok' sign with your fingers in a certain position is considered calling a person an a-hole in others. Geesh, if CC took the time to make sure everyone avoided every type of cultural slight, we would all be pretty silent in here. Get over it, suck it up , and stop being such a hoser. EH!

I was born on a Sioux reservation. Not full blooded indian but enough to be called indian. There is a player named Custer that gets into a few of my games. Do i get upset, NO. Do I say Change your Name , No. Do I put him on ignore, NO. I Play him and try my damnedest to beat him. we have played 10 times he won 4, I won 3 and somebody else won 3 So custer is ahead.

If you do not like a name then beat it off him

wacicha wrote:If you do not like a name then beat it off him

WTF?!!!!!11!!!1

firth4eva wrote:

wacicha wrote:If you do not like a name then beat it off him

WTF?!!!!!11!!!1

damn you, i was jsut about to craft a similar response... albeit, a bit wordier!-0

p.s.-maybe his wife made his screen name...

firth4eva wrote:

wacicha wrote:If you do not like a name then beat it off him

WTF?!!!!!11!!!1

Hilarity Ensues...

Dancing Mustard wrote:

firth4eva wrote:

wacicha wrote:If you do not like a name then beat it off him

WTF?!!!!!11!!!1

Hilarity Ensues...

perhaps, hilarity ERUPTS...

Steppin Razor wrote:I didn't put this in the abuse section, because as far as I can tell, he/she doesn't cheat, and is strategically very good.

However, this handle is highly offensive, and I'm wondering why it is allowed.

You are entitled to your opinion. I happen to agree with you. I am sure a player called Hitler was told he could not keep the name.

I wonder if anyone will call themselves Tamburlaine the Great.

richardgarr wrote:I really see no offense here, all you have managed to do is to make the CC community aware of yet another vague slur, that potential ass's can use. Did you know that eating with your left hand is highly offensive in some cultures, as well as giving the 'ok' sign with your fingers in a certain position is considered calling a person an a-hole in others. Geesh, if CC took the time to make sure everyone avoided every type of cultural slight, we would all be pretty silent in here. Get over it, suck it up , and stop being such a hoser. EH!

Vague slur??? Have you even heard of the Holocaust? But thank you for pointing out the CC is pretty much pro nazi. That is what you're saying, right?

To whoever wrote the Genghis Khan comparison--how ludicrous. Try sticking to something within the last 100 years.

A player in a game alerted me to this thread - I never for one minute thought I could arouse such controversy over the use of a name (not a statement, but merely a name).

For the record I was very drunk when I joined CC (weren't we all?) and had intended to go by the handle of Erwin Rommel - a rather more dignified general - but got my names confused. Probably something to do with having just read a book on the subject and it was floating in my paralytic subconscious. So I apologize for that and for any offence it may cause or have caused.

I do find it remarkable that someone (Benjikat Is Dead) would put me on her ignore list - we haven't even played a game. I happen to have had a cat called Benji that was run over by my neighbour's chauffeur, so I find the moniker she is using to be particularly distressing. I would however be happy to show her the error of her ways by knocking the stuffing out of her in a game on here. Too bad she's shying away.

One correspondent wrote "Hermann Goering is a racist term for Asians". Really? That's a new one on me. I would have thought that living in Hong Kong half my life I'd have come across that term. And with a Japanese wife I can assure you dear reader I don't have a racist bone in my body.

I would be (more than) happy to change my handle - do the powers-that-be on CC allow such modifications? I'd be quite alright with 'Benjikat's A C**t'.

Thanks everyone. Hope that's cleared things up and I hope to see you all at the next rally

HermannGoering wrote:A player in a game alerted me to this thread - I never for one minute thought I could arouse such controversy over the use of a name (not a statement, but merely a name).

For the record I was very drunk when I joined CC (weren't we all?) and had intended to go by the handle of Erwin Rommel - a rather more dignified general - but got my names confused. Probably something to do with having just read a book on the subject and it was floating in my paralytic subconscious. So I apologize for that and for any offence it may cause or have caused.

I do find it remarkable that someone (Benjikat Is Dead) would put me on her ignore list - we haven't even played a game. I happen to have had a cat called Benji that was run over by my neighbour's chauffeur, so I find the moniker she is using to be particularly distressing. I would however be happy to show her the error of her ways by knocking the stuffing out of her in a game on here. Too bad she's shying away.

One correspondent wrote "Hermann Goering is a racist term for Asians". Really? That's a new one on me. I would have thought that living in Hong Kong half my life I'd have come across that term. And with a Japanese wife I can assure you dear reader I don't have a racist bone in my body.

I would be (more than) happy to change my handle - do the powers-that-be on CC allow such modifications? I'd be quite alright with 'Benjikat's A C**t'.

Thanks everyone. Hope that's cleared things up and I hope to see you all at the next rally

Not another benjikat

HermannGoering wrote:One correspondent wrote "Hermann Goering is a racist term for Asians". Really? That's a new one on me. I would have thought that living in Hong Kong half my life I'd have come across that term. And with a Japanese wife I can assure you dear reader I don't have a racist bone in my body.

Lollercaust

The Asian slang thing is a joke, not a fact... the Goering moniker doesn't seem like that huge a deal unless its' user was actually carried away with the character and beliefs and constantly made rants to that effect. The HG player seems to be quite normal, relatively dignified and easily intelligent enough to discuss this topic in a totally rational way. Initiating this subject with no contact (PMs, games etc.) with that namesake's owner was not so rational.

Is it the original poster's intent to have all the names of modern wartime generals removed or just the most notorious ones?

Well i play with General Franco,and i dont mine(He whas Spanish Dictator from 1936 to hes death i think 1972,similar to Hitler),and i dont see that some player from spain put hes protest.

Steppin Razor wrote:

richardgarr wrote:I really see no offense here, all you have managed to do is to make the CC community aware of yet another vague slur, that potential ass's can use. Did you know that eating with your left hand is highly offensive in some cultures, as well as giving the 'ok' sign with your fingers in a certain position is considered calling a person an a-hole in others. Geesh, if CC took the time to make sure everyone avoided every type of cultural slight, we would all be pretty silent in here. Get over it, suck it up , and stop being such a hoser. EH!

Vague slur??? Have you even heard of the Holocaust? But thank you for pointing out the CC is pretty much pro nazi. That is what you're saying, right?

To whoever wrote the Genghis Khan comparison--how ludicrous. Try sticking to something within the last 100 years.

Well I personally have never heard of the name that is in debate here. I do however find it insulting to be called pro-natzi. Perhaps you need to be slapped upside the head a few times for name calling. I find it offensive to be put into that type of category. I also fear that you are not being fair to CC or it's community. an apology might be needed from you.

richardgarr wrote:

Steppin Razor wrote:

richardgarr wrote:I really see no offense here, all you have managed to do is to make the CC community aware of yet another vague slur, that potential ass's can use. Did you know that eating with your left hand is highly offensive in some cultures, as well as giving the 'ok' sign with your fingers in a certain position is considered calling a person an a-hole in others. Geesh, if CC took the time to make sure everyone avoided every type of cultural slight, we would all be pretty silent in here. Get over it, suck it up , and stop being such a hoser. EH!

Vague slur??? Have you even heard of the Holocaust? But thank you for pointing out the CC is pretty much pro nazi. That is what you're saying, right?

To whoever wrote the Genghis Khan comparison--how ludicrous. Try sticking to something within the last 100 years.

Well I personally have never heard of the name that is in debate here. I do however find it insulting to be called pro-natzi. Perhaps you need to be slapped upside the head a few times for name calling. I find it offensive to be put into that type of category. I also fear that you are not being fair to CC or it's community. an apology might be needed from you.

It was nothing even close to a "vague slur", as Hermann Goering was a critical part of one of the most cruelest and detestible events in human history. Most people who have even finished high school will know who Goering was. I think that it was your use of the word "vague" that upset the person you quoted. To call someone like that "vague" is almost like calling the holocaust itself "vague". It was one of the most documented human atrocities in history.