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Feedback is worth what??? [Outdated]

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:38 pm
by NewMercy
Someone please explain to me the value of feedback when it is abused so much. I rarely leave negative feedback. I rarely get negative feedback. I don't complain when the negative feedback I received was ridiculous...I figure people can decipher for themselves it's validity. But now...I am alittle miffed. I left an honest negative feedback because the player was making crude, rude, and disgusting comments. I thought others should beaware of this and should they decide to play him, they can atleast ignore the chat. I am very disappoint to find...that my feedback was deleted because it was unwarranted. Deleted because of what....and for those of you who are interested...sorry...you can't read the chat from the game...because it's been deleted too. I think this means...feedback is worth...what???

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:16 am
by Natewolfman
NewMercy wrote:Someone please explain to me the value of feedback when it is abused so much. I rarely leave negative feedback. I rarely get negative feedback. I don't complain when the negative feedback I received was ridiculous...I figure people can decipher for themselves it's validity. But now...I am alittle miffed. I left an honest negative feedback because the player was making crude, rude, and disgusting comments. I thought others should beaware of this and should they decide to play him, they can atleast ignore the chat. I am very disappoint to find...that my feedback was deleted because it was unwarranted. Deleted because of what....and for those of you who are interested...sorry...you can't read the chat from the game...because it's been deleted too. I think this means...feedback is worth...what???

A very good point... but hard to argue either way when the chat was deleted :S lol

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:45 pm
by Timminz
The chat wasn't deleted. You just can't read it, because you've added btown to your 'foe' list.

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:52 pm
by lozzini
game no. ppl?

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 1:07 pm
by Timminz

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:55 pm
by azezzo
a very good point, I feel that under no circumstances should feedback be deleted.
Let the individuals edit it if they choose, but lets keep the mods hands off of it.

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:09 pm
by killmanic
are u kidding i have gotten a few horrible feedbacks the were out of place and just outraging. I someone were to leave a feedback full of swears, racial, and sexist stuff would you say it must be left in less the person who left it changed it?

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:16 pm
by Sir. Ricco
Feedback is worth what???

Nothing

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:28 am
by The1exile
NewMercy wrote:Someone please explain to me the value of feedback when it is abused so much.

So much? You're complaining about one feedback that you left and was delted.

Feedback isn't perfect, but it generally gives you an idea of how the player is seen in the community (how many people took the time to write about how they played, at least) and gives you reference as to what they are like and sometimes how they play like.

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 12:45 am
by Theguyoverthere
You can get unwarrented feedback removed?? What decides if it's "unwarrented" and who do you have to talk to?

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:41 am
by Thezzaruz
Theguyoverthere wrote:You can get unwarrented feedback removed?? What decides if it's "unwarrented" and who do you have to talk to?


The Mods decide. Fill out an e-ticket (look at the help page) and they'll have a look.

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:32 am
by NewMercy
The Mods....doesn't that sound like "Censorship" :mrgreen:

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:34 am
by NewMercy
Thezzaruz wrote:
Theguyoverthere wrote:You can get unwarrented feedback removed?? What decides if it's "unwarrented" and who do you have to talk to?


The Mods decide. Fill out an e-ticket (look at the help page) and they'll have a look.


The Mods...doesn't that sound like "Censorship" :mrgreen:

The definition:
cen·sor Audio Help /ˈsɛnsər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sen-ser] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. an official who examines books, plays, news reports, motion pictures, radio and television programs, letters, cablegrams, etc., for the purpose of suppressing parts deemed objectionable on moral, political, military, or other grounds.
2. any person who supervises the manners or morality of others.
3. an adverse critic; faultfinder.
4. (in the ancient Roman republic) either of two officials who kept the register or census of the citizens, awarded public contracts, and supervised manners and morals.
5. (in early Freudian dream theory) the force that represses ideas, impulses, and feelings, and prevents them from entering consciousness in their original, undisguised forms.
–verb (used with object)
6. to examine and act upon as a censor.
7. to delete (a word or passage of text) in one's capacity as a censor.

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:23 am
by kerntheconkerer
Well generally when you see that someone has a bunch of negatives, you hesitate in playing them because more than 1 person don't like something about them.
But what you said I really don't know, if you left and honest feedback that was true, and it got deleted, who knows. Maybe they need to limit the ways to delete feedback.

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:53 pm
by Thezzaruz
NewMercy wrote:The Mods....doesn't that sound like "Censorship" :mrgreen:


Yea just like the police "censor" criminals...

Re: Feedback is worth something.

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:03 pm
by oVo
Sir. Ricco wrote:
Feedback is worth what???

Nothing


I disagree Sir. Ricco, feedback has spared me playing many games with assholes and idiots.

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:31 pm
by NewMercy
Exactly...case and point....you will not be spared from the one I played...and unfortunately...you can't hear my voice either...that is censorship!

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:31 pm
by PLAYER57832
I read negative feedback because someone who has a lot is usually a jerk. Sometimes someone just played jerks, deabeated due to an emergency or some such, but that's why I read the negs, to find out.

I look at the positives, but more as reassurance. I don't need to read 100 people saying "this is a nice player"... I see 100 positives and that speaks for itself. Negs and neutrals are so variable, I read them.


Per your issue, I don't know why your feedback was removed, unless you swore or it was "retaliatory" (he gave me a neg, so I am going to neg back).

I had one removed from my file once because it was retaliatory. The guy was a complete jerk. I gave him my first neg. He came back and outright said "I was just going to give you a neutral, but you gave me a neg". So, it was deleted. Really, the only reason I even asked was because I wanted him absolutely clear that his actions were incorrect for CC.

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:46 pm
by animorpherv1
From my point of view, feedback is great, I can leave multiple comments on people on the same day, but feedback is also flawed, people leave outrageous comments about how people have played, and what they did. People say thing's that are made up, from what the answereres say, I think feedback should go through mods 1st, to see if it meets guidlines .

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:17 am
by MeDeFe
Feedback is worth 25 USD, I'll give you one if you pay for my premium.

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:54 am
by owenshooter
Theguyoverthere wrote:You can get unwarrented feedback removed?? What decides if it's "unwarrented" and who do you have to talk to?

how dare you not play as fast as he wanted you to play!!! i mean, taking your turn within the given 24 hour is just ridiculous! i hope you learned your lesson... wow... neg for not playing fast enough...-0

Negative Terrible experience playing with this player. Was the last to finish each and every round. Dragged the game out big-time and made it very un-enjoyable. Will never play again, ignore listed! Be sure to leave your retaliatory feedback as well. I cant wait! 2008-05-03 16:45:48 - Theguyoverthere: pretty please don't leave a negative though. Seems some1 knows there play is cheap!

Theguyoverthere's response: I think my strategy was just fine, if you disagree with it, then I'm sorry.

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:43 am
by oVo
I have joined player's games because of their neg feedback... "sez stupid stuff in the game chat" is one I remember and since I'd rather have a little banter in the game I jumped in... and the son-of-a-bitch not only uses the game chat... but is a tough competitor. So now I join all his games when I see them.

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:59 am
by lord voldemort
i tend to ignore feedback
the only ones i pay attn to is if they have alot for deadbeating or for bad team play...or if they are getting feedback from certain people
say for example this guy has 15 negs for bad team play from complete randoms
but he has a few positives from players like blitz warstein etc then i would generally take their word that being said all my negs are a joke lol
the new feedback system will be much better

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:08 pm
by Theguyoverthere
owenshooter wrote:
Theguyoverthere wrote:You can get unwarrented feedback removed?? What decides if it's "unwarrented" and who do you have to talk to?

how dare you not play as fast as he wanted you to play!!! i mean, taking your turn within the given 24 hour is just ridiculous! i hope you learned your lesson... wow... neg for not playing fast enough...-0

Negative Terrible experience playing with this player. Was the last to finish each and every round. Dragged the game out big-time and made it very un-enjoyable. Will never play again, ignore listed! Be sure to leave your retaliatory feedback as well. I cant wait! 2008-05-03 16:45:48 - Theguyoverthere: pretty please don't leave a negative though. Seems some1 knows there play is cheap!

Theguyoverthere's response: I think my strategy was just fine, if you disagree with it, then I'm sorry.

I know, right? It was a speed game too... speed game freestyles are SUPPOSED to come down to the last couple seconds... It's also ironic because half the time when he was yelling at me to play, he hadn't playn himself!

I tried a couple times to get this removed, but the mods insist that it's warented because he "dsiagreed with my playing strategy"... even though I won... and I broke no rules.....

Re: Feedback is worth what???

PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:17 pm
by NewMercy
oVo wrote:I have joined player's games because of their neg feedback... "sez stupid stuff in the game chat" is one I remember and since I'd rather have a little banter in the game I jumped in... and the son-of-a-bitch not only uses the game chat... but is a tough competitor. So now I join all his games when I see them.



Wow...this is something I hadn't thought of...and a new twist on strategy that I hadn't thought of. I think this may have been the case in my situation, which isn't the part that irritates me. What irritates me is that my feedback for this guy was removed. He lost the game which is why I think he was being ridiculously crass. i don't mind that he was a jerk...I mind that when I said so...my feedback was removed...which is basically saying...shut up! Thanks mods...I don't have a reputation for ever being unreasonable with my feedback. Also, I think it is just fun to keep a thread going if you know what I mean.