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Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:59 pm
by Crystallina
I'm terrified to play anymore. Whenever I play, I'm afraid I'll make a mistake and people will jump on me for it. I'm deathly afraid of negative feedback. I apologize whenever I make a mistake, but sometimes it doesn't work.

What can I do?

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:22 pm
by owenshooter
Crystallina wrote:I'm terrified to play anymore. Whenever I play, I'm afraid I'll make a mistake and people will jump on me for it. I'm deathly afraid of negative feedback. I apologize whenever I make a mistake, but sometimes it doesn't work.

What can I do?


play some team games... pm me if you want to set some up...-0

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:30 pm
by Robinette
Crystallina wrote:I'm terrified to play anymore. Whenever I play, I'm afraid I'll make a mistake and people will jump on me for it. I'm deathly afraid of negative feedback. I apologize whenever I make a mistake, but sometimes it doesn't work.

What can I do?


You might want to avoid the speed games...
Reason #1) people tend to be more sensitive when they see something they don't like unfold before their eyes.
Reason #2) in a speed game you are often time pressured into making your move too hastily. Give yourself more time to think about the move by playing casual games.

And after reading the chat, you appear to me to be quite nice...
try not to let it get to you...

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:56 pm
by gloryordeath
don't worry about that crap or the people that talk it. you can pm me any time as well and i would be happy to intro you to two groups of great people to play that are not like that.

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:38 am
by oggiss
If you are afraid of getting yelled at, don't play me. I yell in 50% of the games :(

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:39 am
by Bruceswar
oggiss wrote:If you are afraid of getting yelled at, don't play me. I yell in 50% of the games :(



Ahh yes this is true. 100% true. ;)

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:13 am
by sjnap
Crystallina wrote:I'm terrified to play anymore. Whenever I play, I'm afraid I'll make a mistake and people will jump on me for it. I'm deathly afraid of negative feedback. I apologize whenever I make a mistake, but sometimes it doesn't work.

What can I do?


Dont worrie...we all make mistakes ;)

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:34 am
by oVo
Everyone makes mistakes... so forget about it and enjoy playing the game.
You have a good win percentage and rank so don't worry about what others
say and GO FOR IT ! You'll never please everyone in your games
so don't even try.

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:09 am
by Dancing Mustard
Play lots of games. Then deliberately make mistakes.
That way when people yell at you for them, you'll feel a deep feeling of satisfaction knowing that your mission has been accomplished. Instead of making mistakes involuntarily and feeling guilty about them, you should turn the experience into a positive and set out to take pride in your mistakes. After all, he who does not mistakes tends not to make anything at all, no?

Remember: When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Or as the case may be: When life gives you annoying people who whinge and whine about mistakes made in an online turn-based non-hasbro-affiliated world-domination strategy game, then annoy them because they deserve no better.

Glad to be of assistance,
DM

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:47 am
by lexie3000
i never make mistakes and everyone just adores me :^o
whenever i snuff someone they roll over and say "thank you Lexie. you're the best" :^o :^o ha - yeah right! Hey Crystal, if i was able to go back and undo all my mistakes i'd be number one. But what's the challenge in that? The best success is when you've backed yourself. My advice: be your own critic, learn from your mistakes, and stop worrying if people get upset with your play. =D>

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:52 am
by gdeangel
Crystallina wrote:I'm terrified to play anymore. Whenever I play, I'm afraid I'll make a mistake and people will jump on me for it. I'm deathly afraid of negative feedback. I apologize whenever I make a mistake, but sometimes it doesn't work.

What can I do?

The biggest mistake that gets made in 80-90% of all 4+ player esc games is coming up short on a take out and giving the game to someone who just had the good luck of playing after you. Don't play esc, and play 1-2 maps over and over until you have the strategic nuances figured out.

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:55 pm
by Crystallina
I just got ignored for making a mistake. The new feedback doesn't help. I try, really I do. I don't make mistakes on purpose. Why can't people see this?

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:57 pm
by wicked
haha oops. I thought this thread was about something/ someone else. :lol:

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:04 pm
by gannable
you dont have a low rank so im not sure how many mistakes you're making.

i yell and berate people in over half my games but i wont yell at you if you're in my games in the future

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:16 pm
by Soloman
Help get wicked reinstated or twill fired and there can be more application of tools that will help guide people and or defuses abusive chats...

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:07 am
by MOBAJOBG
I've made plenty of mistakes and you know what, ...I'll be making more of those in the future.

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:20 am
by owenshooter
MOBAJOBG wrote:I've made plenty of mistakes and you know what, ...I'll be making more of those in the future.

sometimes, recovering from the mistakes, before the other team or players can exploit them, is more fun than if you had played perfectly. the imperfections in this game are what make it fun...-0

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:39 am
by Fruitcake
MOBAJOBG wrote:I've made plenty of mistakes and you know what, ...I'll be making more of those in the future.


Surely not....

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:43 am
by Frop
wicked wrote:haha oops. I thought this thread was about something/ someone else. :lol:

No, this thread isn't about you.

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:43 am
by Bruceswar
owenshooter wrote:
MOBAJOBG wrote:I've made plenty of mistakes and you know what, ...I'll be making more of those in the future.

sometimes, recovering from the mistakes, before the other team or players can exploit them, is more fun than if you had played perfectly. the imperfections in this game are what make it fun...-0



I have to agree here. Sometimes you can recover, sometimes not.

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:41 am
by Zemljanin
Crystallina wrote:I'm terrified to play anymore. Whenever I play, I'm afraid I'll make a mistake and people will jump on me for it. I'm deathly afraid of negative feedback. I apologize whenever I make a mistake, but sometimes it doesn't work.

What can I do?

Learn how to play. It's not sarcasm, nor am I trying to be a jerk. It's just the only correct, honest answer to your question.
That's the only real solution, but there also some things that might help (to some extent):

a) When you haven't a slightest idea what to do - just say it in a game chat. You might get some good advice and even if you don't - people will not be too angry with you.

b) Try to get rid of the fear.
I don't think you're dumb. I think the main reason of such a bad play is fear that you'll look stupid and be ridiculed or hated. Then, in panic, you play much worse than you would normally.
Of course, the best (but not necessarily fastest) way of eliminating that fear is improving your understanding of the game. Fast recipe would be nice, talkative games with friends - games with much "loud thinking", analyzing everybody's moves (and reasons behind that moves) etc. If you haven't any friends yet, you can open a thread in CALL OUTS forum, describing what you want. You'll be pleasantly surprised with response...

c) Check your attitude.
When someone in a game tries to explain you something, how do you react? Friendly, positive, with interest - or the opposite?
I understand that you're sick of being criticized. So don't be surprised if you find many examples in your game chats... Many examples where people tried to help, but you made them shut up with your attitude... You may not like this idea, but it's certainly worth checking!

d) Game choice
You could stick to easier maps for some time... To gain a self-confidence.

Crystallina wrote:I just got ignored for making a mistake. The new feedback doesn't help. I try, really I do. I don't make mistakes on purpose. Why can't people see this?

They might see, but that doesn't make their pain easier...

How to learn?

i) My personal advice, doesn't work for everyone. But if it works for you - there is no better way.
Just look at some position and think calmly about it. About assets and weak spots of everyone's position... Possible plans of improving your position... Not longer than several minutes. Then close the game and visit it again after few hours or tomorrow. If you find a suitable move, it's not a reason to terminate the process. You can find more suitable plays than you expect. Play only when you have to, or when you are sure that you want one particular move (and know WHY you are wanting it). (With time, you'll be able to recognize right play very quickly - you'll just know.)
Forget actual games, focus on new ones.
IF this is a right way for you - you'll see a significant improvement very soon!

ii) Find a mentor (This way is fastest, but somewhat shallow and very risky.)
Very risky, because you can't easily determine whether your mentor actually understands the game. If you pick wrong person and don't realize it soon - you'll suffer a significant damage.
There is a Mentoring Pilot Program.

iii) Find a stronger player for team games (this one is also risky, for the same reasons...)

iv) I can offer you an one-shot help - through analysis of ONE game.
PM me if you're interested about details...

YES, this post is long, as well as your journey will be...

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:56 am
by InkL0sed
Dancing Mustard wrote:Play lots of games. Then deliberately make mistakes.
That way when people yell at you for them, you'll feel a deep feeling of satisfaction knowing that your mission has been accomplished. Instead of making mistakes involuntarily and feeling guilty about them, you should turn the experience into a positive and set out to take pride in your mistakes. After all, he who does not mistakes tends not to make anything at all, no?

Remember: When life gives you lemons, make lemonade. Or as the case may be: When life gives you annoying people who whinge and whine about mistakes made in an online turn-based non-hasbro-affiliated world-domination strategy game, then annoy them because they deserve no better.

Glad to be of assistance,
DM


Listen to DM; he's the only one in this thread who has spoken a shred of sense.

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:36 pm
by herndawg
join the 6-8 player escalating public Terminator crowd. Very rare to have ill things said. These settings are great for mistakes and can be expected.

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:09 am
by Crystallina
I'm trying to learn how to play. I read the strategy forums regularly and such. I used to be a chef, maybe that's progress. But I've been publicly criticized too many times to feel very secure.

And it's difficult to get rid of the fear when I constantly face reasons to be afraid. Especially when the foe list exists - that's permanent. You can't reverse that. If I screw up once, that's it.

Re: Making mistakes

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:18 am
by Timminz
My mother used to tell me "Don't let the assholes get you down." I think that would be good advice, in this situation.

Keep making mistakes, as long as you're learning from them. The more you do that, the better you'll get, and the fewer mistakes you'll make.