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Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:56 am
by State409c
I used to roll my eyes when I saw the higher ranks referring to them in a derogatory way, but after playing about 3 games with them recently, I understand.

I also used to be on the "high ranked players aren't that good" bandwagon because they don't play stripers, but I've flip flopped on that now. They are completely unpredictable.

In game 2545757, I asked pink to play a role early in the game, and blue decided to take offense to it and just randomly started plowing over me, not really caring whether he wins the game or not.

There really isn't much strategy that can overcome this. These guys just suck.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:48 am
by Iron Butterfly
Did you remember to put money in their G strings? Stripers play nicer when you do that.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:00 am
by MeDeFe
Iron Butterfly wrote:Did you remember to put money in their G strings? Stripers play nicer when you do that.

You're already premium so you don't need it.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:02 am
by Anarkistsdream
STRIPPER... Two p's...

A striper is a fish...

Of course, I guess a stripper is too.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:20 pm
by owenshooter
actually, if you go read the game chat, the problem with the game is pretty much you. everyone in the game is not their to help you win. it is not a team game. being upset with someone because they are making it more difficult for you to move or impossible for you to win, is pretty much whining. i love that you put up this thread, because it shows how clueless you are, as to how annoying and pushy you are being in the game... i hope they all just start attacking you, eliminate you, and then come laugh at you in this sad little thread. what a poor attitude you have:

State409c: Blue, answer the question...are you a retarded ass redneck? You just made it EASIER for green to win this game...he had to go through my 6 to kill me, then turn to you, well, you just took out my 6 for him, making me and yourself easier to kill
State409c: you retarded monkey...I bet you have some extra chromosomes don't you? The piss everyone off strategy usually gets employed after dumbasses like you f*ck my game over

you sir are a true diplomat!!-0

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:38 pm
by State409c
I've already got a lot of negatives. Once it resets, I might attempt diplomacy, but I've found most lower ranked players simply don't get it, even when you are offering it to them.

Red did have bad early rolls, but he took a shot again in the third round when he had no hope, and put himself out of the game because of it. It's escalating, so anything can happen. At that point in the game, pink was also super weak and would have been on his way out had he not been given the gift of blues retarded (no) strategy. But, he now has a good shot to win, that could have been red. That's not actually what has me perturbed. Apparently, my comments to red set blue off and he took it upon himself to to take me out, without much regard to winning the game. He doesn't really seem to have strategy, just hope the cards and the game falls his way and he gets a win occasionally. Like I said in my first post, when one guy decides he is going to suicide you and isn't being hurt himself by the other 2 players, there really isn't any strategy other than getting the cards when you need it to stop him.


I don't treat this game like the rest of you people do. I don't care to be nice to stripers and hope they don't f*ck me over. Jawing with retarded rednecks like Dave VT is part of my fun, and it happens in about 30% of my games. The other 70% of my games I get guys that aren't idiots or I manage to escape their wrath and I have a fun game. It's just how it goes with these people.

But thanks for the nut riding owen, I can always count on your 2 pesos.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:20 pm
by Iron Butterfly
Bad attempted stripper joke aside....

Because you have *cough* rank that gives you the right to dictate gameplay?

They should listen to you because your coming across as a control freak??

Your post could just as easily been titled "Instant asshole... just add sense of entitlement"

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 1:31 pm
by mightyleemoon
State409c wrote:but I've found most lower ranked players simply don't get it


Actually...it sounds like you're the one who doesn't get it.

Nobody joins up a game to make you happy. They do it to play the game as they see fit...however they see fit. If someone has fun relying on dumb luck...I don't see the harm in that. Maybe you should adjust your strategy to account for people who like playing the game that way? Or maybe you should just play private games?

Just trying to help you out here.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:00 pm
by State409c
Bad attempted stripper joke aside....

Because you have *cough* rank that gives you the right to dictate gameplay?

They should listen to you because your coming across as a control freak??

Your post could just as easily been titled "Instant asshole... just add sense of entitlement"


It's really annoying to have to reply to comments like these when you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

It was an escalating game. Do you get that? A measely 2 bonus isn't shit. Period. I got in first, played first, and politely asked red not to attempt what he was going to do to the detriment of both of us. He tried again not once more, but twice more, even after I tried to give him some advice...and where did it get him? Eliminated early as f*ck. Just on that basis only, my early game comments were spot on, you can't argue that point at all.

My rank didn't have anything to do with it when I started that game. It's funny you mention rank though, when I've asked higher ranked players to move in a diplomacy situation, it usually goes well for me. The stripers just don't understand escalating and fight tooth and nail for regions. Why you are questioning me on this basic simple CC fact and trying to pull in all those retarded talking points you just did is beyond me. Maybe you're bored :roll:

They do it to play the game as they see fit...however they see fit. If someone has fun relying on dumb luck...I don't see the harm in that. Maybe you should adjust your strategy to account for people who like playing the game that way?

Holy shit. You don't say. Maybe my strategy could be....to not play stripers? Gawd damn, you're a genius man. A genius.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:05 pm
by Timminz
State409c wrote:
They do it to play the game as they see fit...however they see fit. If someone has fun relying on dumb luck...I don't see the harm in that. Maybe you should adjust your strategy to account for people who like playing the game that way?

Holy shit. You don't say. Maybe my strategy could be....to not play stripers? Gawd damn, you're a genius man. A genius.

seems like a better strategy than bitching in the forums when someone doesn't play the way you want.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:08 pm
by FabledIntegral
mightyleemoon wrote:
State409c wrote:but I've found most lower ranked players simply don't get it


Actually...it sounds like you're the one who doesn't get it.

Nobody joins up a game to make you happy. They do it to play the game as they see fit...however they see fit. If someone has fun relying on dumb luck...I don't see the harm in that. Maybe you should adjust your strategy to account for people who like playing the game that way? Or maybe you should just play private games?

Just trying to help you out here.


However I do. This is a game about strategy, where every move affects everybody in the game. If it's obvious someone slamming their armies into you will gift the game to another player, all the time you spent on that game is ruined, the fun gone. It takes away from the enjoyment factor most people get from the game, whether or not you want to spew the BS that you had fun in the process (which for 90% of the players, it is fun up until the point that you get suicided on, or have the game thrown).

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:14 pm
by State409c
seems like a better strategy than bitching in the forums when someone doesn't play the way you want.


You're correct. Up until now, I had specifically selected opponents similar in rank to me and really haven't had many problems with diplomacy and predictable and enjoyable game play. But over time, I've found less and less middle ranked players playing the games I like (freestyle escalating) so I figured I'd try my hand at some stripers and have had the same experience that other folks have had playing them.

They just suck. You can't talk to them because they think you are telling them how to play, they will go after a region bonus to the death in an escalating game, etc. This is just common CC knowledge, no debating that.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:18 pm
by RiskTycoon
well..... did you know this when you were a noob ...... or no? i mean, for sure it took you some time to figure it out no? they suck because they are ignorant .... not stupid .... can't blame them except for not reading.... you can blame them for that lol but that's about it ! otherwise it's all trial and error anyway !

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:20 pm
by Anarkistsdream
This is why state409 is on my foe list.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:25 pm
by State409c
Who are you?

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:29 pm
by RiskTycoon
I just might follow your lead Anark! :lol:

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:58 pm
by mightyleemoon
FabledIntegral wrote:
mightyleemoon wrote:
State409c wrote:but I've found most lower ranked players simply don't get it


Actually...it sounds like you're the one who doesn't get it.

Nobody joins up a game to make you happy. They do it to play the game as they see fit...however they see fit. If someone has fun relying on dumb luck...I don't see the harm in that. Maybe you should adjust your strategy to account for people who like playing the game that way? Or maybe you should just play private games?

Just trying to help you out here.


However I do. This is a game about strategy, where every move affects everybody in the game. If it's obvious someone slamming their armies into you will gift the game to another player, all the time you spent on that game is ruined, the fun gone. It takes away from the enjoyment factor most people get from the game, whether or not you want to spew the BS that you had fun in the process (which for 90% of the players, it is fun up until the point that you get suicided on, or have the game thrown).


Maybe there should be some kind of evaluation exam...and if someone doesn't use a required strategy....or lack the ability to grasp said strategy....they shouldn't be allowed to join this site.

Does that sound better?

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:00 pm
by mightyleemoon
RiskTycoon wrote:I just might follow your lead Anark! :lol:


Ditto. ;-)

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:50 pm
by Bruceswar
There are many player who play freestyle Escalating games. I usually have a good amount up, but off for the week so no games right now. I totally understand not wanting to get hung or suicided into. For those who want to foe you are also the same people who will most likely hang you. I play 8 man freestyle escalating games. They are fun. I have learned to deal with the suicides from people and win a decent amount :)

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:45 am
by Hrvat
State409c wrote:I used to roll my eyes when I saw the higher ranks referring to them in a derogatory way, but after playing about 3 games with them recently, I understand.

I also used to be on the "high ranked players aren't that good" bandwagon because they don't play stripers, but I've flip flopped on that now. They are completely unpredictable.

In game 2545757, I asked pink to play a role early in the game, and blue decided to take offense to it and just randomly started plowing over me, not really caring whether he wins the game or not.

There really isn't much strategy that can overcome this. These guys just suck.


We are not here to serve you mr. officer, sir.
Welcome to my ignore list.

.... and get a premium, you only played 490 games for free. :roll:

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Oh, I forgot, good on you Blue... Well done.

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:30 am
by David VT
is that all you got you sniveling little nancy girl. bring it on. oh thats right your to afraid, your going to put me on your ignore list. your such a little coward. :evil:

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:42 am
by daydream
i love how shortly ago you would have been a striper yourself, its the "free rank upgrade" that makes you only one rank better... :lol:

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:35 pm
by mightyleemoon
daydream wrote:i love how shortly ago you would have been a striper yourself, its the "free rank upgrade" that makes you only one rank better... :lol:


I was thinking the same thing. He's only a couple hundred points above me (and a couple hundred more games) and would have been the rank I currently am a short time ago. All of the sudden...now he's too good for our kind.

And...out of curiosity...is 25 bucks reallyl that much money?

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:38 pm
by wacicha
Well I gotta say it depends on the day---

Sometimes I am A Striper, Sometimes I am an Officer. I like playing both they each have their own type of stratigies that they think work.

Thank god we are not all the same...

Re: Stripers

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:07 pm
by detlef
daydream wrote:i love how shortly ago you would have been a striper yourself, its the "free rank upgrade" that makes you only one rank better... :lol:

Nice eh? What a freaking dork.