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Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:44 am
by mumbles
Looking at your Gang/Clan
Over the last few months I have be talking to a few people about CC and The Clans.
Most of the people in Clans seem to only play team games with their Clan members as team mates. They become well oiled Fighting Machines. Though these teams are formed as a loose association of like minded players. They soon start Coordinating their games where one person or as a collaboration, directing the whole game advising where to place armies. In affect becoming a single player against the opposition team, who 60% of the time is made up of lower ranked players who don't Know they are playing against one player with 4 times the fire power that they have . As the younger /newer team is not in constant communication with team members on messenger or Skype they can not hope to battle on an even playing field. Not understanding the importance of what is happening around them on the map. The Clan takes the points albeit few to be shared but as any major discount store will tell you if you watch the pennies the dollars will look after them selves
So what do we know about the clans, well from the outside they spend a lot of time preaching that it is all about the Strategy and they all spend a lot of time bitching about the random dice rolls not being random enough.
‘No, it's about strategy not luck of the draw. I play a lot of strategy games and prefer to avoid the capricious nature of luck as much as possible’. .The fact is you are all just preying on the lower ranks for the points you crave. You become Obsessive, and Fixated on archiving rank and points to the point where the game is forgotten and only the achievement of rank matters refusing to play one on one or a non team event unless you have your fellow Clanies on a team to support you. “I play dubs, trips and quad games just about exclusively these days”.
I see that strategy works as a gang / Clan you can support each other, taking unfair advantage of other players who do not know you are in a clan or that you have been building your tactics and working together for months just to present as a single force against all comers but 60% of the time the other team is not another Clan/ Gang but 2,3 or 4 newer players who don't know any better.
Much the same as the school yard bully's we all hated at school . You have in fact refined it in to a fine art and convinced your selves that it is strategy
Before you all claim this is not the truth take a look at how you mount a game or should I say campaign. Before you take a move you have had several hundred hours working as a team, against a scratch team of cooks and cadets who just want to have fun. Their may be a junior officer there, is that how you justify taking the points . You say "but they joined the Game" but they thought they were playing 3 people not one .
In closing, I ask should Clans be banned ? No but they should only do battle with other Clans if the members wish to hone their skills let them do it as a player in open combat. And let them practice their team skills against Clans, fighting it out with them selves earning their Rank and points against players of equal skills / experience
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:05 am
by hulmey
mumbles wrote:Looking at your Gang/Clan
Over the last few months I have be talking to a few people about CC and The Clans.
Most of the people in Clans seem to only play team games with their Clan members as team mates. They become well oiled Fighting Machines. Though these teams are formed as a loose association of like minded players. They soon start Coordinating their games where one person or as a collaboration, directing the whole game advising where to place armies. In affect becoming a single player against the opposition team, who 60% of the time is made up of lower ranked players who don't Know they are playing against one player with 4 times the fire power that they have . As the younger /newer team is not in constant communication with team members on messenger or Skype they can not hope to battle on an even playing field. Not understanding the importance of what is happening around them on the map. The Clan takes the points albeit few to be shared but as any major discount store will tell you if you watch the pennies the dollars will look after them selves
So what do we know about the clans, well from the outside they spend a lot of time preaching that it is all about the Strategy and they all spend a lot of time bitching about the random dice rolls not being random enough.
‘No, it's about strategy not luck of the draw. I play a lot of strategy games and prefer to avoid the capricious nature of luck as much as possible’. .The fact is you are all just preying on the lower ranks for the points you crave. You become Obsessive, and Fixated on archiving rank and points to the point where the game is forgotten and only the achievement of rank matters refusing to play one on one or a non team event unless you have your fellow Clanies on a team to support you. “I play dubs, trips and quad games just about exclusively these days”.
I see that strategy works as a gang / Clan you can support each other, taking unfair advantage of other players who do not know you are in a clan or that you have been building your tactics and working together for months just to present as a single force against all comers but 60% of the time the other team is not another Clan/ Gang but 2,3 or 4 newer players who don't know any better.
Much the same as the school yard bully's we all hated at school . You have in fact refined it in to a fine art and convinced your selves that it is strategy
Before you all claim this is not the truth take a look at how you mount a game or should I say campaign. Before you take a move you have had several hundred hours working as a team, against a scratch team of cooks and cadets who just want to have fun. Their may be a junior officer there, is that how you justify taking the points . You say "but they joined the Game" but they thought they were playing 3 people not one .
In closing, I ask should Clans be banned ? No but they should only do battle with other Clans if the members wish to hone their skills let them do it as a player in open combat. And let them practice their team skills against Clans, fighting it out with them selves earning their Rank and points against players of equal skills / experience
You spout alot of shit
Ask most clan members what they like about clans and top of that list will probably be the clan challenges and the bragging rights that come with victory....
You dont need to be in a clan to be a well oiled fighting machine. Maybe be should stop friends, husbands and wives, and families from playing together.
Ive met alot of players by chance on this site and we have instantly clicked and they arent in my clan. Are you going to stop me from playing with them as well?
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

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Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:10 am
by Dancing Mustard
mumbles wrote:Clans = Evil Hive-Minds that will destroy us all
Don't be so ridiculous.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:12 am
by lt.pie
IT IS MY OPINION THAT TEAMS NEED TO BE WELL OILED TO HAVE A GOOD CHANCE AGAINST OTHER HIGH RANKED TEAMS.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:15 am
by Joodoo
nah, I'm in a clan and I play team games with anyone
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:16 am
by yeti_c
Agree - Clans are bad - ban teh multi's - burn the witch.
Hmmm - Now where did I put that clan application form...
C.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:26 am
by Seulessliathan
i have played more often against my clan members than together with them^^
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:31 am
by Frop
Seulessliathan wrote:i have played more often against my clan members than together with them^^
Bullshit, let's bash some low ranks together like we often do!
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:45 am
by Seulessliathan
Frop wrote:Seulessliathan wrote:i have played more often against my clan members than together with them^^
Bullshit, let's bash some low ranks together like we often do!
hehe, the lowest rank we have ever played against as a team is a major Frop , check the Game Finder

and we will never be in a strong clan if we always steal points from our low rank clan members like jiminski or firstholliday
Messengers don´t help a lot, everybody can use Gamechat, push your teammates to do so, and you have equal chances @mumbles
I have tried it, set up some games and played with random teammates. I had some really great games, only a few times people didn´t cooperate.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:53 am
by Dancing Mustard
lt.pie wrote:IT IS MY OPINION THAT TEAMS NEED TO BE WELL OILED TO HAVE A GOOD CHANCE AGAINST OTHER HIGH RANKED TEAMS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INTELLIGENT AND HELPFUL COMMENT.
IT IS JUST A SHAME THAT I WAS NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU FROM WHERE I WAS SITTING BECAUSE THE NOISE OF THE INTERNET WAS SO FUCKING LOUD.
PERHAPS YOU COULD TRY AGAIN, BUT THIS TIME A LITTLE LOUDER?
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

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Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:57 am
by fwblb
one of my favorite teammates is not in my clan. my rank isn't high. half the time, we set up games and anybody is able to join, so we don't only play low rank. because of time zones, schedules, and just not having some people's msn/skype, i use game chat more often than not lately.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

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Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:06 am
by joecoolfrog
I guess that if I still only had 1000 points after 400+ games then I would also be tempted to blame everything and everybody rather than myself.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:07 am
by eye84free
ok i think i might be one of the biggest team players here..90% of my games are team games..and so most will know i have almost 3900 games played. i have been here longer then most and have seen people come and go i have been to the top more then 1 time and have droped just as quick. but i can say this...the guy that wrote this u should try to get into the stach wackers clan...THEY WINE AND BITCH ABOUT STUPID STUFF LIEK THIS ALL THE TIME..ULL BE PERFECT FOR THEM. clans are ment for team play or bragging rights. and justgood fun with players u respect.. i do help less expierance players at team games..how else are they to get better? by watching idiots play 1 vs 1 games all the time...by watching other peoples games and not knowing what there saying in chat..comeone guy..and so what if lower ranked players join..not mine..they joined my games..there problem..and trust me..noobs arent always the push overs u think..why do u think im at a sgt.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:08 am
by eye84free
joecoolfrog wrote:I guess that if I still only had 1000 points after 400+ games then I would also be tempted to blame everything and everybody rather than myself.
ROFLMAO
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:30 am
by lt.pie
Dancing Mustard wrote:lt.pie wrote:IT IS MY OPINION THAT TEAMS NEED TO BE WELL OILED TO HAVE A GOOD CHANCE AGAINST OTHER HIGH RANKED TEAMS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INTELLIGENT AND HELPFUL COMMENT.
IT IS JUST A SHAME THAT I WAS NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU FROM WHERE I WAS SITTING BECAUSE THE NOISE OF THE INTERNET WAS SO FUCKING LOUD.
PERHAPS YOU COULD TRY AGAIN, BUT THIS TIME A LITTLE LOUDER?
WELL TURN DOWN YOUR EGO YOU LOW RANKED KOOK.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

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Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:40 am
by clapper011
Seulessliathan wrote:Frop wrote:Seulessliathan wrote:i have played more often against my clan members than together with them^^
Bullshit, let's bash some low ranks together like we often do!
hehe, the lowest rank we have ever played against as a team is a
major Frop , check the Game Finder

and we will never be in a strong clan if we always steal points from our low rank clan members like jiminski or firstholliday
Messengers don´t help a lot, everybody can use Gamechat, push your teammates to do so, and you have equal chances @mumbles
I have tried it, set up some games and played with random teammates. I had some really great games, only a few times people didn´t cooperate.
this is a bold lie! Don't believe him. I am the lowest rank in The Spanking Monkeys

Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:42 am
by Dancing Mustard
lt.pie wrote:Dancing Mustard wrote:lt.pie wrote:IT IS MY OPINION THAT TEAMS NEED TO BE WELL OILED TO HAVE A GOOD CHANCE AGAINST OTHER HIGH RANKED TEAMS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INTELLIGENT AND HELPFUL COMMENT.
IT IS JUST A SHAME THAT I WAS NOT ABLE TO HEAR YOU FROM WHERE I WAS SITTING BECAUSE THE NOISE OF THE INTERNET WAS SO FUCKING LOUD.
PERHAPS YOU COULD TRY AGAIN, BUT THIS TIME A LITTLE LOUDER?
WELL TURN DOWN YOUR EGO YOU LOW RANKED KOOK.
YOU CLEARLY DIDN'T HEAR ME!!!
I SAID THAT IT WAS THE
INTERNET THAT WAS LOUD, NOT YOUR EGO. YOU INSANELY DULL, RANK-PULLING, BORE.
DO I LOOK LIKE THE KIND OF MAN WHO GIVES A FLYING f*ck WHAT MY RANK IS AT SOME ONLINE STRATEGY-GAME THAT I HAVEN'T PLAYED MORE THAN ONE GAME OF IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS?
THE ANSWER, TO SAVE YOU WHAT I IMAGINE WOULD OTHERWISE BE A RATHER LENGTHY PERIOD OF CONTEMPLATION TIME, IS NO.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:51 am
by Seulessliathan
clapper011 wrote:Seulessliathan wrote:Frop wrote:Seulessliathan wrote:i have played more often against my clan members than together with them^^
Bullshit, let's bash some low ranks together like we often do!
hehe, the lowest rank we have ever played against as a team is a
major Frop , check the Game Finder

and we will never be in a strong clan if we always steal points from our low rank clan members like jiminski or firstholliday
Messengers don´t help a lot, everybody can use Gamechat, push your teammates to do so, and you have equal chances @mumbles
I have tried it, set up some games and played with random teammates. I had some really great games, only a few times people didn´t cooperate.
this is a bold lie! Don't believe him. I am the lowest rank in The Spanking Monkeys

it´s the truth, Frop and me have never played a team game against you. Don´t believe our queen, she tries to irritate you

btw, a lot of people join against high rank players because they want a good challenge, if you don´t believe it, check my team games i play on team 2 .... you won´t find a lot of low ranks in team 1.
If you manage to communicate with your team, you will be fine.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

Posted:
Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:36 am
by Timminz
This is one of the funniest threads I've seen in a while. The OP seems to think that if a team is really good, they shouldn't be allowed to play together any more. That's makes as much sense as telling someone they can't play 6-8 player escalating games, because they've had too much practice, and are too good at it.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

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Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:38 am
by JACKAZZTJM
clans are cool i just wouldnt play agaist them
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

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Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:40 pm
by lord voldemort
anyone wanna give me a quick rundown, it was too long. i assume he is saying that people who know each other like people in clans cant play together once they are good...
ah well we all needed a good laugh today...
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

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Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:02 pm
by detlef
Here's a question. Why is anyone bothering to defend clans against this dumbass? You nailed it buddy, clans are evil. You really don't even know the half of it. Two words: human sacrifice. It's far scarier than you could even begin to imagine. Carry on.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

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Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:10 pm
by lord voldemort
detlef wrote:Here's a question. Why is anyone bothering to defend clans against this dumbass? You nailed it buddy, clans are evil. You really don't even know the half of it. Two words: human sacrifice. It's far scarier than you could even begin to imagine. Carry on.
haha do u know wat else is scary....terrorism...i jst finished watching all 6 seasons of 24...that shit is freaky.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

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Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:14 pm
by detlef
lord voldemort wrote:detlef wrote:Here's a question. Why is anyone bothering to defend clans against this dumbass? You nailed it buddy, clans are evil. You really don't even know the half of it. Two words: human sacrifice. It's far scarier than you could even begin to imagine. Carry on.
haha do u know wat else is scary....terrorism...i jst finished watching all 6 seasons of 24...that shit is freaky.
You wanna know a fun drinking game? You pound a shot every time Jack Bauer yells, "You need to trust me on this!" You'll be drunk in no time.
Oh, and please try to stay on topic. This is not about terrorism, this is about human sacrifice. Don't make me get the mods involved.
Re: Is being a member of a clan just a legalised multi player

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Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:18 pm
by Dancing Mustard
detlef wrote:Oh, and please try to stay on topic. This is not about terrorism, this is about human sacrifice. Don't make me get the mods involved.
Don't be ridiculous, it's clearly a thread about freedom-fighters.