Conquer Club

I left feedback for bad play. Player A attacks me and kills 6 countries, Player B (who has a 10 bonus) kills me off and takes my cards and in the next round wins the game. Can a mod tell me how Player does not deserve bad feedback for that???

Hello hulmey,

Feedback, if used properly, can be an excellent resource to gauge reputation. If abused, it quickly becomes useless. The feedback quoted below is inappropriate and has been deleted.


feedback you left for White Moose wrote:
BAD PLAY ; rather than attacking the stronger person, he attacked me, setting me up for the other person to kill me in an escalalting game. that person won!

Reason for deletion: Not factual

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2008-06-03 05:27:55 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to USA Bunker 1
2008-06-03 05:27:55 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to USA Bunker 2
2008-06-03 05:27:55 - White Moose receives 1 armies for holding 1 Scientist
2008-06-03 05:27:55 - White Moose receives 1 armies for holding 1 Uranium Processing Plant
2008-06-03 05:27:55 - White Moose receives 4 armies for 12 territories
2008-06-03 05:28:02 - White Moose deployed 6 armies on USA Bunker 2
2008-06-03 05:28:04 - White Moose attacked Washington from USA Bunker 2 and conquered it from hulmey
2008-06-03 05:28:10 - White Moose attacked USA President from Washington and conquered it from hulmey
2008-06-03 05:28:15 - White Moose attacked New York from Washington and conquered it from hulmey
2008-06-03 05:28:19 - White Moose attacked Serber from New York and conquered it from hulmey
2008-06-03 05:28:35 - White Moose attacked Seaborg from USA Bunker 1 and conquered it from Sir. Ricco
2008-06-03 05:29:01 - White Moose fortified Seaborg with 3 armies from Serber
2008-06-03 05:29:08 - White Moose gets a card
2008-06-03 05:29:08 - Incrementing game to round 8
2008-06-03 11:30:25 - Sir. Ricco gets bonus of 2 armies added to USSR Bunker 2
2008-06-03 11:30:25 - Sir. Ricco receives 1 armies for holding 1 Scientist
2008-06-03 11:30:25 - Sir. Ricco receives 3 armies for holding 3 Uranium Processing Plants
2008-06-03 11:30:25 - Sir. Ricco receives 2 armies for holding USSR Launch Code
2008-06-03 11:30:25 - Sir. Ricco receives 4 armies for 13 territories
2008-06-03 11:30:39 - Sir. Ricco deployed 10 armies on Samara
2008-06-03 11:31:14 - Sir. Ricco attacked Moscow from Samara and conquered it from hulmey
2008-06-03 11:31:18 - Sir. Ricco attacked USSR Premier from Moscow and conquered it from hulmey
2008-06-03 11:31:24 - Sir. Ricco attacked Leningrad from Moscow and conquered it from hulmey
2008-06-03 11:31:24 - Sir. Ricco eliminated hulmey from the game
2008-06-03 11:31:30 - Sir. Ricco cashed in a set of Chitba, Leningrad, and Washington worth 10 armies
2008-06-03 11:31:30 - Sir. Ricco gets bonus of 2 armies added to Chitba
2008-06-03 11:31:30 - Sir. Ricco gets bonus of 2 armies added to Leningrad
2008-06-03 11:31:34 - Sir. Ricco cashed in a set of Chicago, SS-18 Stage 4, and Sakharov worth 10 armies
2008-06-03 11:31:34 - Sir. Ricco gets bonus of 2 armies added to Sakharov
2008-06-03 11:31:54 - Sir. Ricco deployed 6 armies on Leningrad
2008-06-03 11:32:11 - Sir. Ricco deployed 7 armies on USSR Launch Code
2008-06-03 11:32:16 - Sir. Ricco deployed 7 armies on USSR Premier
2008-06-03 11:32:22 - Sir. Ricco attacked USSR Spy 1 from Leningrad and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 11:32:28 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Oppenheimer from USSR Spy 1 and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 11:32:30 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Seaborg from USSR Spy 1 and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 11:32:38 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Serber from USSR Spy 1 and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 11:32:42 - Sir. Ricco bombarded USA President from USSR Spy 1 and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 11:33:00 - Sir. Ricco fortified USSR Premier with 2 armies from USSR Bunker 2
2008-06-03 11:33:19 - Sir. Ricco fortified USSR Launch Code with 1 armies from Chitba
2008-06-03 11:33:27 - Sir. Ricco fortified Sakharov with 1 armies from Chitba
2008-06-03 11:33:41 - Sir. Ricco gets a card
2008-06-03 12:22:59 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to USA Bunker 1
2008-06-03 12:22:59 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to USA Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:22:59 - White Moose receives 1 armies for holding 1 Uranium Processing Plant
2008-06-03 12:22:59 - White Moose receives 4 armies for 13 territories
2008-06-03 12:23:04 - White Moose cashed in a set of Seattle, Dallas, and USA Bunker 1 worth 10 armies
2008-06-03 12:23:04 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to Seattle
2008-06-03 12:23:04 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to Dallas
2008-06-03 12:23:04 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to USA Bunker 1
2008-06-03 12:23:24 - White Moose deployed 4 armies on Washington
2008-06-03 12:23:31 - White Moose deployed 4 armies on New York
2008-06-03 12:23:45 - White Moose deployed 2 armies on Dallas
2008-06-03 12:23:47 - White Moose deployed 5 armies on USA Bunker 1
2008-06-03 12:23:49 - White Moose attacked Seaborg from USA Bunker 1 and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:23:57 - White Moose attacked USA Uranium 1 from Seaborg and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:24:03 - White Moose attacked Serber from New York and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:24:07 - White Moose attacked USA President from Washington and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:24:16 - White Moose attacked Oppenheimer from Dallas and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:24:24 - White Moose fortified Oppenheimer with 2 armies from USA Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:24:28 - White Moose fortified Chicago with 2 armies from Seattle
2008-06-03 12:24:33 - White Moose fortified Chicago with 1 armies from Seaborg
2008-06-03 12:24:36 - White Moose gets a card
2008-06-03 12:24:36 - Incrementing game to round 9
2008-06-03 12:30:48 - Sir. Ricco gets bonus of 2 armies added to USSR Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:30:48 - Sir. Ricco receives 1 armies for holding 1 Scientist
2008-06-03 12:30:48 - Sir. Ricco receives 3 armies for holding 3 Uranium Processing Plants
2008-06-03 12:30:48 - Sir. Ricco receives 2 armies for holding USSR Premier
2008-06-03 12:30:48 - Sir. Ricco receives 2 armies for holding USSR Launch Code
2008-06-03 12:30:48 - Sir. Ricco receives 5 armies for 17 territories
2008-06-03 12:30:52 - Sir. Ricco cashed in a set of Novosibirsk, Serber, and USSR Spy 1 worth 10 armies
2008-06-03 12:30:52 - Sir. Ricco gets bonus of 2 armies added to Novosibirsk
2008-06-03 12:30:52 - Sir. Ricco gets bonus of 2 armies added to USSR Spy 1
2008-06-03 12:31:30 - Sir. Ricco deployed 10 armies on USSR Spy 1
2008-06-03 12:31:36 - Sir. Ricco deployed 13 armies on Noril'sk
2008-06-03 12:31:38 - Sir. Ricco attacked USSR Silo 1 from Noril'sk and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:31:43 - Sir. Ricco attacked SS-18 Launch Platform from USSR Silo 1 and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:31:46 - Sir. Ricco attacked SS-18 Stage 1 from SS-18 Launch Platform and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:31:50 - Sir. Ricco attacked SS-18 Stage 2 from SS-18 Stage 1 and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:31:54 - Sir. Ricco attacked SS-18 Stage 3 from SS-18 Stage 2 and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:32:08 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Oppenheimer from USSR Spy 1 and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:32:11 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Seaborg from USSR Spy 1 and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:32:16 - Sir. Ricco bombarded USA President from USSR Spy 1 and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:32:20 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Serber from USSR Spy 1 and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:32:35 - Sir. Ricco fortified SS-18 Stage 3 with 2 armies from USSR Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:32:39 - Sir. Ricco gets a card
2008-06-03 12:32:56 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to USA Bunker 1
2008-06-03 12:32:56 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to USA Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:32:56 - White Moose receives 2 armies for holding 2 Uranium Processing Plants
2008-06-03 12:32:56 - White Moose receives 4 armies for 14 territories
2008-06-03 12:33:02 - White Moose deployed 2 armies on Chicago
2008-06-03 12:33:10 - White Moose deployed 4 armies on USA Spy 1
2008-06-03 12:33:27 - White Moose fortified Chicago with 2 armies from USA Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:33:32 - White Moose fortified Chicago with 2 armies from USA Bunker 1
2008-06-03 12:33:34 - Incrementing game to round 10
2008-06-03 12:35:31 - Sir. Ricco gets bonus of 2 armies added to USSR Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:35:31 - Sir. Ricco receives 1 armies for holding 1 Scientist
2008-06-03 12:35:31 - Sir. Ricco receives 3 armies for holding 3 Uranium Processing Plants
2008-06-03 12:35:31 - Sir. Ricco receives 2 armies for holding USSR Premier
2008-06-03 12:35:31 - Sir. Ricco receives 2 armies for holding USSR Launch Code
2008-06-03 12:35:31 - Sir. Ricco receives 7 armies for 22 territories
2008-06-03 12:35:39 - Sir. Ricco deployed 15 armies on SS-18 Stage 3
2008-06-03 12:35:41 - Sir. Ricco attacked SS-18 Stage 4 from SS-18 Stage 3 and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:35:47 - Sir. Ricco attacked SS-18 Stage 5 from SS-18 Stage 4 and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:35:51 - Sir. Ricco attacked SS-18 Warhead from SS-18 Stage 5 and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:36:11 - Sir. Ricco fortified USSR Premier with 9 armies from USSR Spy 1
2008-06-03 12:36:24 - Sir. Ricco fortified USSR Launch Code with 2 armies from Novosibirsk
2008-06-03 12:36:32 - Sir. Ricco fortified USSR Launch Code with 3 armies from Sakharov
2008-06-03 12:36:39 - Sir. Ricco fortified USSR Launch Code with 2 armies from USSR Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:36:44 - Sir. Ricco fortified USSR Launch Code with 1 armies from USSR Premier
2008-06-03 12:36:49 - Sir. Ricco gets a card
2008-06-03 12:39:07 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to USA Bunker 1
2008-06-03 12:39:07 - White Moose gets bonus of 2 armies added to USA Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:39:07 - White Moose receives 2 armies for holding 2 Uranium Processing Plants
2008-06-03 12:39:07 - White Moose receives 4 armies for 14 territories
2008-06-03 12:39:09 - White Moose deployed 6 armies on USA Spy 1
2008-06-03 12:39:18 - White Moose attacked Seaborg from USA Bunker 1 and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:39:23 - White Moose attacked USA Uranium 2 from Chicago and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:39:31 - White Moose fortified USA Spy 1 with 3 armies from USA Uranium 2
2008-06-03 12:39:39 - White Moose fortified USA Spy 1 with 2 armies from USA Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:39:42 - White Moose gets a card
2008-06-03 12:39:42 - Incrementing game to round 11
2008-06-03 12:39:47 - Sir. Ricco gets bonus of 2 armies added to USSR Bunker 2
2008-06-03 12:39:47 - Sir. Ricco receives 1 armies for holding 1 Scientist
2008-06-03 12:39:47 - Sir. Ricco receives 3 armies for holding 3 Uranium Processing Plants
2008-06-03 12:39:47 - Sir. Ricco receives 2 armies for holding USSR Premier
2008-06-03 12:39:47 - Sir. Ricco receives 2 armies for holding USSR Launch Code
2008-06-03 12:39:47 - Sir. Ricco receives 50 armies for holding USSR NUCLEAR STRIKE IMMINENT!
2008-06-03 12:39:47 - Sir. Ricco receives 8 armies for 25 territories
2008-06-03 12:39:51 - Sir. Ricco deployed 66 armies on SS-18 Warhead
2008-06-03 12:39:53 - Sir. Ricco attacked SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH from SS-18 Warhead and conquered it from neutral player
2008-06-03 12:40:01 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Atlanta from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:04 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Chicago from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:08 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Dallas from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:12 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Denver from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:16 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Los Angeles from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:22 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Miami from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:26 - Sir. Ricco bombarded New York from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:29 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Seaborg from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:33 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Seattle from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:36 - Sir. Ricco bombarded USA Bunker 1 from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:40 - Sir. Ricco bombarded USA Bunker 2 from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:44 - Sir. Ricco bombarded USA Spy 1 from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:48 - Sir. Ricco bombarded USA Uranium 1 from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:52 - Sir. Ricco bombarded USA Uranium 2 from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:56 - Sir. Ricco bombarded USA Uranium 3 from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:59 - Sir. Ricco bombarded Washington from SS-18 MISSLE LAUNCH and annihilated White Moose's armies
2008-06-03 12:40:59 - Sir. Ricco eliminated White Moose from the game
2008-06-03 12:40:59 - Sir. Ricco won the game
2008-06-03 12:40:59 - White Moose loses 30 points
2008-06-03 12:40:59 - hulmey loses 25 points
2008-06-03 12:40:59 - Sir. Ricco gains 55 points

Yes same thing is happening to me when trying to get feedback deleted.

you are a whiner, negative feedback was not warranted in the situation... big deal, you don't like how they played. if "bad play" or "made a dumb move" were legit reasons for neg feedback, we would all have more negs than positives!!!-0

Was White Moose doing it on purpose to help Sir. Ricco win?

owenshooter wrote:you are a whiner, negative feedback was not warranted in the situation... big deal, you don't like how they played. if "bad play" or "made a dumb move" were legit reasons for neg feedback, we would all have more negs than positives!!!-0

im a whiner. your a fukin hyprocrite!! you got pissed coz someone DARED ask you to take your turn and told all the CC community about it..

Plus, i have only left 6 negative feedbacks in 2 years of playing at CC. And i only have 2 players on my foe list........

White moose choose to attack me and it was obvious the other player was gonna kill me off and take my cards and the game!!!! instead of attacking the stronger player who was getting a ten bonus he attacked me and firmly planted the game at sir.ricco's feet.

happy2seeyou wrote:Was White Moose doing it on purpose to help Sir. Ricco win?

white moose didnt do it to help him win, he done it coz he has shit tactics and instead of growing a back bone and attacking the clearly more dominat player, he attacked me and gave the game to sir.ricco, who clearly won the game with ease!!

Understand you're upset and were provoked hulmey, but it's easier to discuss things if you remain calm and I don't have to nag you about flaming.

Owen, let's not call people names here eh? It only serves to provoke. If you want to do that, go to FW.

wicked wrote:Understand you're upset and were provoked hulmey, but it's easier to discuss things if you remain calm and I don't have to nag you about flaming.

Owen, let's not call people names here eh? It only serves to provoke. If you want to do that, go to FW.

Quite right wicked, you have a habit of taking things off topic owen, can't you see hulmey has issues. Calling someone a whiner is, after all, one of those particularly mean and subtle double insults....one change to the letters and position and he would be a winner.

Naw. I agree with Owen, TonyMontana needs to stop snitchin and quit bitchin.

Grow a pair and deal with the fact that not everyone is as brilliant as an "online-multiplayer-variation-of-a-popular-world-domination-board-game" strategist as your white ass.

That said, Fruit has the right idea. "The beat goes on, gentlemen."

VI, knock it off now.

Fruity, back on topic or don't post.

hulmey wrote:CAN WE KEEP THIS ON TOPIC FRUIT

Yeah. There's serious complaining that needs to be done here, and the last thing this thread needs is anyone trying to discuss anything else. Keep your comments about spelling, and owen's flames away from here.

Back on topic:
It has been shown time, and time again that leaving negative feedback based on someone's strategy (or lack thereof) alone is not acceptable. If it gets challenged, it will be deleted. If that's not good enough for you, just wait a little while. When the feedback system is switched over, it won't matter anymore. It's been quite apparent in the discussion of the new system, that feedback is NOT meant to rate a player's skill. That's what points and win percentages are for.

Timminz wrote:

hulmey wrote:CAN WE KEEP THIS ON TOPIC FRUIT

Yeah. There's serious complaining that needs to be done here, and the last thing this thread needs is anyone trying to discuss anything else. Keep your comments about spelling, and owen's flames away from here.

Back on topic:
It has been shown time, and time again that leaving negative feedback based on someone's strategy (or lack thereof) alone is not acceptable. If it gets challenged, it will be deleted. If that's not good enough for you, just wait a little while. When the feedback system is switched over, it won't matter anymore. It's been quite apparent in the discussion of the new system, that feedback is NOT meant to rate a player's skill. That's what points and win percentages are for.

well what is the point in leaving feedback if it isnt about the game concerned. I want players to know that the concerned player makes stupid moves and threw the game to the other player!!!

owenshooter wrote:you are a whiner, negative feedback was not warranted in the situation... big deal, you don't like how they played. if "bad play" or "made a dumb move" were legit reasons for neg feedback, we would all have more negs than positives!!!-0

No we wouldn't. People aren't so keen about giving feedback at all >.<

Imo, he deserved a neg.

As a counter agrument :

I want mods to remove all the feedback I have left stating that a player is "good". Is this factual???

Its the same thing, its just the other side of the stone!!!

You can withdraw your own feedback left at any time.

wicked wrote:You can withdraw your own feedback left at any time.

haha...i know that...im making a point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hulmey wrote:

wicked wrote:You can withdraw your own feedback left at any time.

haha...i know that...im making a point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since ur around wicked, can you explain how u can state a player is good but u cant state he is bad!!!!

Actually i'll give him a good feedback now

hulmey wrote:

hulmey wrote:

wicked wrote:You can withdraw your own feedback left at any time.

haha...i know that...im making a point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since ur around wicked, can you explain how u can state a player is good but u cant state he is bad!!!!

Actually i'll give him a good feedback now

SHIT, i tried to give him a positive and it wouldnt let me

hulmey wrote:Since ur around wicked, can you explain how u can state a player is good but u cant state he is bad!!!!

I know I'm not wicked, but it seems pretty obvious why that's the case. Have you ever submitted a positive feedback for deletion? Do you expect the mods to spend their time reading every feedback ever left? Negs get deleted, Positives do not. If you'd like to go check on everyone's feedback to make sure they aren't being rated well due to their skill, go ahead. I'm sure the mods would love all the extra work to track down, and delete all those positive feedbacks that were based on someone's skill, or even, god forbid, retaliatory positives.

edit for fast-post: did you just quote yourself, quoting yourself?

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hahaha3hahaha wrote:Yes positives get deleted more often than you think, when people give a negative feedback submitted as a positive its deleted...

Of course. But those are submitted for moderation. My point is that, unless someone has a problem with the feedback they've been left, it won't be deleted, or even looked at, because the mods have a lot of better ways to spend their time.

Timminz wrote:

hahaha3hahaha wrote:Yes positives get deleted more often than you think, when people give a negative feedback submitted as a positive its deleted...

Of course. But those are submitted for moderation. My point is that, unless someone has a problem with the feedback they've been left, it won't be deleted, or even looked at, because the mods have a lot of better ways to spend their time.

its just bullshit....what does feedback mean? thats what i was doing! the repoert from the mods said it wasnt factual. f*ck thAT, after knocking me out, the other player won in 2 turns!!!!

I just read the instructions for feedback and I didn't notice anything about not leaving feedback about an other persons gameplay.

Feedback Guidelines

* Leave only fair and factual comments that relate to a specific game.
* Do not leave feedback for trivial things like missing an occasional turn.
* Do not use foul language.
* Do not fish for feedback (i.e. leave positive feedback to get positive feedback in return).
* Do not leave retaliatory feedback (i.e. leave negative feedback in revenge of negative feedback).

The guidelines also state feedback is meant to be an indication of a persons reputation on CC. This is (or was meant to be) mainly a gaming site, where people play a game, how are their gaming skills, whether good or bad, then not relevant for their reputation?
In case you don't see my point, I think gaming skills are relevant.

And I agree with hulmey on this point, if the stated reason for deleting the feedback was that it was "not factual", the feedback appears to have been wrongfully deleted, unless hulmey was down to 3 armies on 3 territories and White Moose just was unusually unlucky with the dice. Then it's debateable whether going for the cards was the right thing to do or not, though going for cards in a flat rate game is usually not economically viable.