Conquer Club

Today, June 19th, marks the 2 month anniversary of the Classic Map White circle debacle being resolved.

The 60% white circles were added on 4/8
Lack acknowledged they screwed up on 4/10
The change to 30% occured on 4/19

Some of you don't play classic, so this would've been a non-issue for you.
Some of you play flat & no cards, which means you could get in and get out quickly.
Some of you play 1v1, which reduces the complexity resulting in quicker turns.

But for me it was not so easy, I had a full compliment of Classic, 6 player, escalating games going. And these settings often require some serious map study.

The 1st few days were aggravating to be sure, but the real frustration came from what felt like an eternity waiting and not understanding why they wouldn't simply change it back while a more permanant solution was found.

During those 12 days of hell, i vowed to myself to punish CC for being bad... much the way a parent will punish a child by grounding them, or putting them on restriction, a 'timeout' if you will... they don't want to do it, but sometimes it is clearly the right thing to do.

So if you've ever heard the saying "This is gonna hurt me more than it's gonna hurt you" then you will understand how hard this has really been for me... Yes, that's right, I have deprived myself joining any games, games that I love so much, all in the name of doing the right thing... and yes, it hurt me more than CC, which wouldn't have noticed at all if not for the silver freemie color change of my swords.

You see, CC had unknowlingly made a mistake (which is completely forgivable), but the real problem was that when the CC community make it crystal clear that this was a bad thing, they decided to continue the mistake for another 9 days after they were fully aware of things. This was totally unacceptable.

So initially, CC's 'punishment' was to last 9 months, one month for each day of defiant behaviour. But recently, I learned that there was more to the story... so i had decided to reduce the 'punishment' to just 2 months... which is today.

For me, the additional info does not excuse thier actions, but it does help to see that there was more concern for the people of CC than was originally apparent. So what is this new info, you ask... well, apparently "changing the map back would have risked crashing the server, AND ALSO, there was a risk that people would not actually continue to comment". Hmmm...

Has CC learned that they should have handled that better? ...
perhaps...
perhaps not...
but the punishment is over,
and I am now able to return to the battlefield, with joy and eagerness I might add.

Robinette wrote:Today, June 19th, marks the 2 month anniversary of the Classic Map White circle debacle being resolved.

The 60% white circles were added on 4/8
Lack acknowledged they screwed up on 4/10
The change to 30% occured on 4/19

Some of you don't play classic, so this would've been a non-issue for you.
Some of you play flat & no cards, which means you could get in and get out quickly.
Some of you play 1v1, which reduces the compleity resulting in quicker turns.

But for me it was not so easy, I had a full compliment of Classic, 6 player, escalating games going. And these settings often require some serious map study.

The 1st few days were aggravating to be sure, but the real frustration came from what felt like an eternity waiting and not understanding why they wouldn't simply change it back while a more permanant solution was found.

During those 12 days of hell, i vowed to myself to punish CC for being bad... much the way a parent will punish a child by grounding them, or putting them on restriction, a 'timeout' if you will... they don't want to do it, but sometimes it is clearly the right thing to do.

So if you've ever heard the saying "This is gonna hurt me more than it's gonna hurt you" then you will understand how hard this has really been for me... Yes, that's right, I have deprived myself joining any games, games that I love so much, all in the name of doing the right thing... and yes, it hurt me more than CC, which wouldn't have noticed at all if not for the silver freemie color change of my swords.

You see, CC had unknowlingly made a mistake (which is completely forgivable), but the real problem was that when the CC community make it crystal clear that this was a bad thing, they decided to continue the mistake for another 9 days after they were fully aware of things. This was totally unacceptable.

So initially, CC's 'punishment' was to last 9 months, one month for each day of defiant behaviour. But recently, I learned that there was more to the story... so i had decided to reduce the 'punishment' to just 2 months... which is today.

For me, the additional info does not excuse thier actions, but it does help to see that there was more concern for the people of CC than was originally apparent. So what is this new info, you ask... well, apparently "changing the map back would have risked crashing the server, AND ALSO, there was a risk that people would not actually continue to comment". Hmmm...

Has CC learned that they should have handled that better? ...
perhaps...
perhaps not...
but the punishment is over,
and I am now able to return to the battlefield, with joy and eagerness I might add.

heheh you are cute ... wanna cyber-flirt ^^

i am always amazed how robinette has the time to write in all kinds of colours and sizes

Quite a colorful post.

christ.

Robinette, how long will the punishment be for the new rating system?
I bet you'll love it.
+ it's been many days.

SlayerQC wrote:Robinette, how long will the punishment be for the new rating system?
I bet you'll love it.
+ it's been many days.

lol, i was wondering how long it would be before that connection was made...
but it means little to me as the ratings do not effect the game itself...

so i really don't mind if they take their time, besides, didn't we just learn that "changing things to quickly would risk crashing the server, AND ALSO, there is always a risk that people would not actually continue to comment".

just like a parent, you must pick your battles...

you had a boycott going? had no idea... what was it about?-0

owenshooter wrote:you had a boycott going? had no idea... what was it about?-0

Normally your numerous posts are delerious with self-importance Owen, but in this thread you come across as insightful and witty...

Welcome back Robbi

An ironic quote of mine to have on a day when the server goes down for most of the day

Yeah, most people missed the first time we changed classic, had an outcry, changed it back instantly to go back into the foundry for more comments, crashed the server and then proceeded to not get many comments on the map - and those that we did get, after having listened to the community, brought us the Classic! map which caused so much uproar.

But, that water being under the bridge, good to have you back indeed! Care for a game?

you consider 30% extra whiteness for 19 days hell? GET A F***ING LIFE!!!!

Twelve days of hell because an internet browser game had one tiny thing 30% whiter than you liked?

By gum.

Robinette comes back to thw soft gentle womb on CC and the server crashes. Coincidence-I think not.

remind me never to attack you in a game again....

Hell hath no fury...

Twill wrote:Welcome back Robbi

An ironic quote of mine to have on a day when the server goes down for most of the day

Yeah, most people missed the first time we changed classic, had an outcry, changed it back instantly to go back into the foundry for more comments, crashed the server and then proceeded to not get many comments on the map - and those that we did get, after having listened to the community, brought us the Classic! map which caused so much uproar.

But, that water being under the bridge, good to have you back indeed! Care for a game?

You have no idea how bad i felt all day about that little ironic coincidence...
So do tell... what caused the crash?
was somebody messing with the Classic map again???

the announcement page explains the crash...

As I read it I couldnt help be reminded by the 3 mile island scare... loss of power, back up system initiated, heating issues, resulting in system failures... though in this case the blunders were no where near as reckless than on 3 mile island...they were hardly forseeable in this case it seems

AAFitz wrote:remind me never to attack you in a game again....

Hell hath no fury...

And doooooo't you forget e-it!

LOL... you remember Hanna-Barbera don't you...

"Queeks Draw, I theen...", whereupon Quick Draw would interrupt with his catchphrase: "Now hoooooold on thar, Baba Looey! I'll do the "thinnin'" around here, and doooon't you forget e-it!"

It wasn't even that big of a change.

The black dots were better.

barterer2002 wrote:Robinette comes back to thw soft gentle womb on CC and the server crashes. Coincidence-I think not.

of course, you'll need to come up with a catchy name for this to stick...

you know, kinda like the name of Typhoid Mary...
only not Typhoid... oh, and not Mary, either...

T7 wrote:The black dots were better.

once you go black... you have lived the rest robinette!! now shout it from the rooftops!!!-0

While I fully support taking breaks from the time waster that is the internet, and wish I could do it myself... how exactly was the site "punished" by one member's temporary absence?

Ditocoaf wrote:While I fully support taking breaks from the time waster that is the internet, and wish I could do it myself... how exactly was the site "punished" by one member's temporary absence?

are you nuts? it was THE robinette! we all suffered!-0

owenshooter wrote:

Ditocoaf wrote:While I fully support taking breaks from the time waster that is the internet, and wish I could do it myself... how exactly was the site "punished" by one member's temporary absence?

are you nuts? it was THE robinette! we all suffered!-0

ahhhh, pshaw.....

hmmm...i dont find it that bad.


deal with it


-tig