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why i don't like world 2.1

Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:02 am
by bob72
Map Rank For Bob72
Options:
Map Rank Next Rank Points Win/Loss Playing First Unique Defeats
Totals Cook 54pts for Cadet -254 Won 1 from 23(4%) Won 0 from 3 3 (0)
World 2.1 Cook 54pts for Cadet -254 Won 1 from 23(4%) Won 0 from 3 3
I'm really really really bad at it after 23 maps I still don't have a clue.
Only reason I play it now is due to touraments

Re: why i don't like world 2.1

Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:14 am
by liamo6969
i only played it once or twice and love it. its so large that fluke alone can lead to victory. the only reason i dont play it 2 often is the goes take 4 time longer than in classic!
i also heard that once their are like 4 or more players in it, lucky rolls have a minimal overall effect on the game result!
Which is always gud!
Unless your living off luck here on cq of course!
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:18 am
by Optimus Prime
Check out the stats on AAFitz for World 2.1...
World 2.1
Major
416pts for Colonel
+1084
Won 233 from 344(68%)
Won 103 from 119 when going first.
330 unique defeats
Blows my mind sometimes.

Re: why i don't like world 2.1

Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:38 am
by liamo6969
Optimus Prime wrote:Check out the stats on AAFitz for World 2.1...
World 2.1
Major
416pts for Colonel
+1084
Won 233 from 344(68%)
Won 103 from 119 when going first.
330 unique defeats
Blows my mind sometimes.

pretty impressive alright!

Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:50 am
by Lhuth
ok stupid question here, but where do you find thsoe statistics for map ranks/how many you've won/lost on a particular map? thanks:)
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:58 am
by foregone
Lhuth wrote:ok stupid question here, but where do you find thsoe statistics for map ranks/how many you've won/lost on a particular map? thanks:)
By installing Map Rank (I think its called that). One of the many nifty designed tools laying around here somewhere.
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:02 am
by detlef
Because of this and other threads mentioning it, I downloaded it as well. Interesting stuff but not exactly accurate. It shows me having a rating about 150 pts less than I do.
I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere?
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:08 am
by Optimus Prime
detlef wrote:Because of this and other threads mentioning it, I downloaded it as well. Interesting stuff but not exactly accurate. It shows me having a rating about 150 pts less than I do.
I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere?
It's because some of the game logs are still missing from the server trouble on Father's Day. When the logs are restored, it should correct itself according to chipv.
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:10 am
by MOBAJOBG
ok, I'm going to search for map rank's link so that I can download the script and use it or better yet, is there anybody who can assist by leaving the link here?
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:14 am
by chipv
MOBAJOBG wrote:ok, I'm going to search for map rank's link so that I can download the script and use it or better yet, is there anybody who can assist by leaving the link here?
You've actually posted on the correct thread:
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=53395&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=285#p1395758but here is the head post link:
viewtopic.php?t=53395
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:20 am
by chipv
detlef wrote:Because of this and other threads mentioning it, I downloaded it as well. Interesting stuff but not exactly accurate. It shows me having a rating about 150 pts less than I do.
I'm sure this has been discussed elsewhere?
There are 2 reasons for the discrepancy:
1 is the recent downtime problems :
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53817&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=120#p1402754which is being resolved.
2. There were some missing logs in March which won't be recovered.
Once 1 is resolved, you will then have a permanent offset between Map Rank and Real only if any of your game logs went missing in March. This won't change so if you calculate this once, then you'll know this is the amount you will always be offset from the real points. I couldnt see the point in faking the total by looking at the profile so I've left it alone.
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:27 am
by chipv
Just want to point out that the discrepancy is only with the points.
Win/Loss/%age, Unique defeats and medals are fine.
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:38 am
by MOBAJOBG
Well, based on map rank I've played 49 games and won 40 games ...out of 33 games where I've gone first, just lost 3 games on World 2.1 map.
So far, I'm not so sure whether I like it or not ...the verdict is still up in the air.
Note: Thanks chipv for the map rank script.
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:50 am
by oVo
W 2.1 is easily one of my favorite maps to play. It's size definitely figures into the equation of what I like about it and the length of the games is no big deal. Instant gratification isn't very important to me while surviving an epic war on it can be very satisfying.
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:57 am
by chipv
MOBAJOBG wrote:Well, based on map rank I've played 49 games and won 40 games ...out of 33 games where I've gone first, just lost 3 games on World 2.1 map.
So far, I'm not so sure whether I like it or not ...the verdict is still up in the air.
Note: Thanks chipv for the map rank script.
Most welcome - yours is by far the best Map Rank I've seen.
On the scoreboard, you've got the second highest percentage wins I can see in the top 250...
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

Posted:
Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:12 pm
by gdeangel
What happened to my post?
I swear I posted in here...
2.1's not bad if you get the better drop on Oceania.
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:23 pm
by Zemljanin
Can somebody who already have the script installed do me a favor?
I have the silver medal for standard, so my score has to be between 100 and 400, but I have no bloody idea whether it is 103 or 290. Please, tell me how much unique defeats I have.
(I need to know whether I have a chance to earn gold one in a reasonable time, or should I learn to love the silver one

)
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:27 pm
by chipv
Zemljanin wrote:Can somebody who already have the script installed do me a favor?
I have the silver medal for standard, so my score has to be between 100 and 400, but I have no bloody idea whether it is 103 or 290. Please, tell me how much unique defeats I have.
(I need to know whether I have a chance to earn gold one in a reasonable time, or should I learn to love the silver one

)
126.
Why can't you run the script?
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:37 pm
by Zemljanin
Thanks

I probably can, but I am afraid of further slowdown of my Firefox (BOB is already taking it's toll...)
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:02 pm
by chipv
Zemljanin wrote:Thanks

I probably can, but I am afraid of further slowdown of my Firefox (BOB is already taking it's toll...)
Upgrade to FF3 immediately, you'll be amazed at the speed.
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:54 pm
by Aesop Jones
World 2.1 is fun, but it's even more fun when you play Assassin in a Haystack!
That's right, World 2.1, eight players, Assassin, Fog on. Until you've spent a week scouring every corner of the map to find your target's last guy in Madagascar and being protected by three other players, you have not lived.
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:15 am
by Zemljanin
chipv wrote:Zemljanin wrote:Thanks

I probably can, but I am afraid of further slowdown of my Firefox (BOB is already taking it's toll...)
Upgrade to FF3 immediately, you'll be amazed at the speed.
Beta, or "proper" version?
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

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Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:14 pm
by IronE.GLE
oVo wrote:W 2.1 is easily one of my favorite maps to play. It's size definitely figures into the equation of what I like about it and the length of the games is no big deal. Instant gratification isn't very important to me while surviving an epic war on it can be very satisfying.
+1 I love the epic games and W2.1 offers that.
IronE.GLE World 2.1Corp 1st Class +309pts
9/17 (53%)
2/2 Playing 1st
38 unique defeats (whatever that means)
The ONLY problem I have with W2.1 is the fact that in 17 finished games and 3 active games, I have never started the game with more than 2 countries in Europe. I would love the opportunity to try to win a game starting in Europe because I have never seen anyone do so. I'm sure its been done, just not in the 17 finished games I have been part of. It seems that I always get starting positions around China or Mexico which has become quite boring.
Re: why i don't like world 2.1

Posted:
Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:31 pm
by chipv
Zemljanin wrote:chipv wrote:Zemljanin wrote:Thanks

I probably can, but I am afraid of further slowdown of my Firefox (BOB is already taking it's toll...)
Upgrade to FF3 immediately, you'll be amazed at the speed.
Beta, or "proper" version?
Proper on the homepage.
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=53395&start=315#p1403748