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Legalized Deadbeating

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Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:53 pm
by hulmey
Heres a question for all you Speed Double's players and 1 vs 1
You join a game and the game's over by round 3. Should you stick around and see it to the end or deadbeat?
I deadbeated my last couple of games. First i said GG, im suciding, cya around. Then i left all my countries with 1 army.
The reason im asking is i got a few 1's on the rating's system for attendance and attitude
Wasnt it easier to just kill yourself and deadbeat thus not getting 3 armies and cards every turn!!?! It does kinda prolong the enviteable
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:56 pm
by happy2seeyou
There have been games in the past where I have thought for sure it was over, then things turned around and I won. You shouldn't give up! Never give up. If you sign up for a speed game, see it though. It takes less time to start and end your turn than it des to wait out 5 minutes each round to deadbeat.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:00 pm
by IronE.GLE
A deadbeat is a deadbeat is a deadbeat. If you leave the game because you have no chance to win, you are still holding up the game for other players. Their first order of business is to follow through on their strategies, not eliminate a quitter to make it more convenient for you.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:06 pm
by lancehoch
To quote a horrible movie:
Never give up,
Never surrender
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

Posted:
Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:27 pm
by hulmey
IronE.GLE wrote:A deadbeat is a deadbeat is a deadbeat. If you leave the game because you have no chance to win, you are still holding up the game for other players. Their first order of business is to follow through on their strategies, not eliminate a quitter to make it more convenient for you.
I dont see it as holding up the game...Espically in singles or doubles...It actually takes more time if your done for...
Ps...to happy, i know when i've got a chance and when i havent. Its just i think it easier on the other party if i sucide in certain games.....
I've had it happen to me loads of times and i dont mind (as long as they respectfully sucide)
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:54 pm
by Timminz
You ARE holding up the games, because no self-respecting player is just going to trust that you aren't coming back. They're going to sit there waiting for you to finish missing your turns. Even if you've been beaten in the first 3 rounds, you should still show the courtesy to take your turns.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:10 am
by gloryordeath
Timminz wrote:You ARE holding up the games, because no self-respecting player is just going to trust that you aren't coming back. They're going to sit there waiting for you to finish missing your turns. Even if you've been beaten in the first 3 rounds, you should still show the courtesy to take your turns.
Well said, just play it out take your win or loss and move on.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:30 am
by hulmey
gloryordeath wrote:Timminz wrote:You ARE holding up the games, because no self-respecting player is just going to trust that you aren't coming back. They're going to sit there waiting for you to finish missing your turns. Even if you've been beaten in the first 3 rounds, you should still show the courtesy to take your turns.
Well said, just play it out take your win or loss and move on.
whats taking your win or loss got to do with anything. If you have left all your countries with 1's, everybody knows your a dead duck. It actually saves time coz sometimes games with luckey dice or licey cards just prolongs the pain!!
who in their right mind thinks that you can win with no bonus, cards and all countries with 1's. YOu guys havent convinved me one bit that the way im finsihing isnt correct!!
I actually started playing this way afer everyone done it to me after it was imp[ossible to win in maps like waterloo
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:29 am
by kletka
[quote="hulmey"]who in their right mind thinks that you can win with no bonus, cards and all countries with 1's. [\quote]
First of all, I have a chance in speed if your opponent's tinternet goes donw. It happened twice to me in games comprehensively lost otherwise. Second, by not playing in a multiperson game you affect chances of other players. I have recently lost game because a player X deadbeated. He was fighting a losing battle against player Y with whome I was finely balanced. If he stayed and fought for another two rounds, I would have deservedly won. He buggered off instead and I lost.
It is needless to mention that Pl X ended up with 1's for attendance and fair play and on my foe list

Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:59 am
by hulmey
kletka wrote:hulmey wrote:who in their right mind thinks that you can win with no bonus, cards and all countries with 1's. [\quote]
First of all, I have a chance in speed if your opponent's tinternet goes donw. It happened twice to me in games comprehensively lost otherwise. Second, by not playing in a multiperson game you affect chances of other players. I have recently lost game because a player X deadbeated. He was fighting a losing battle against player Y with whome I was finely balanced. If he stayed and fought for another two rounds, I would have deservedly won. He buggered off instead and I lost.
It is needless to mention that Pl X ended up with 1's for attendance and fair play and on my foe list

hmmm it was a hard read but phew i got there in the end....Well im fed up re[eating myself, so im not going to answer that

Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:08 am
by Thezzaruz
IronE.GLE wrote:A deadbeat is a deadbeat is a deadbeat.
My thoughts exactly. Anyone doing this would get a deserved 1 in "attendance" from me.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:23 am
by IronE.GLE
hulmey wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:A deadbeat is a deadbeat is a deadbeat. If you leave the game because you have no chance to win, you are still holding up the game for other players. Their first order of business is to follow through on their strategies, not eliminate a quitter to make it more convenient for you.
I dont see it as holding up the game...Espically in singles or doubles...It actually takes more time if your done for...
What do you mean you don't see it as holding up the game? If you can't see how making the other players wait for your turns to expire is making the game last longer, then you are either one dumb muthafucker or....... well, I can't think of any other explanations.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:06 pm
by hulmey
IronE.GLE wrote:hulmey wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:A deadbeat is a deadbeat is a deadbeat. If you leave the game because you have no chance to win, you are still holding up the game for other players. Their first order of business is to follow through on their strategies, not eliminate a quitter to make it more convenient for you.
I dont see it as holding up the game...Espically in singles or doubles...It actually takes more time if your done for...
What do you mean you don't see it as holding up the game? If you can't see how making the other players wait for your turns to expire is making the game last longer, then you are either one dumb muthafucker or....... well, I can't think of any other explanations.
haha your hardly a speed or dubz player so how can you pass comment????
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:13 pm
by Timminz
hulmey wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:hulmey wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:A deadbeat is a deadbeat is a deadbeat. If you leave the game because you have no chance to win, you are still holding up the game for other players. Their first order of business is to follow through on their strategies, not eliminate a quitter to make it more convenient for you.
I dont see it as holding up the game...Espically in singles or doubles...It actually takes more time if your done for...
What do you mean you don't see it as holding up the game? If you can't see how making the other players wait for your turns to expire is making the game last longer, then you are either one dumb muthafucker or....... well, I can't think of any other explanations.
haha your hardly a speed or dubz player so how can you pass comment????
I am, and I concur.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:15 pm
by trapyoung
me too, play your games if you sign up for them. as happy mentioned earlier taking your turns in speed instead of waiting 5 minutes to expire is shorter than deadbeating. as well, it's a pain in the ass to take out someone who doesn't care because you have to be wary of the d-factor, some douchebag who is making you spread your armies just to have you show up with 'x' deferred armies and swing the momentum of the game. there's a topic in FW about it right now.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:17 pm
by hulmey
Timminz wrote:hulmey wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:hulmey wrote:IronE.GLE wrote:A deadbeat is a deadbeat is a deadbeat. If you leave the game because you have no chance to win, you are still holding up the game for other players. Their first order of business is to follow through on their strategies, not eliminate a quitter to make it more convenient for you.
I dont see it as holding up the game...Espically in singles or doubles...It actually takes more time if your done for...
What do you mean you don't see it as holding up the game? If you can't see how making the other players wait for your turns to expire is making the game last longer, then you are either one dumb muthafucker or....... well, I can't think of any other explanations.
haha your hardly a speed or dubz player so how can you pass comment????
I am, and I concur.
im not interested in you opinons really
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:23 pm
by hulmey
Game 2683417The above game is an example of what im trying to say. You can see the huge map ize. You can see how many bonus's armies the other team are getting. There is no way im going to win this game. If there was a SURRENDER button, i would have pressed it....
Game 2703114Same here but someone done it to me. Did i mind? No, he had no chance of the winning the game. So in the 5 mins he had,i mad a cup of tea....
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

Posted:
Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:26 pm
by IronE.GLE
hulmey via PM wrote:you dont even play dubz or speed games, so wtf are you posting in my thread for you handicapped cunt!!
1.) I just got back from a 7 month layoff, so yeah I've only played one speed game. I've played plenty of doubles games in the past, and I'll play more when I feel like doing so.
2.) Regardless of game type, dead beating makes the game last longer. Period. End of story.
3.) Questions are punctuated with question marks (?), not exclamation points (!).
4.) I couldn't reply to your PM for some reason, so I figured I'd just post it in "your" thread.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

Posted:
Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:27 pm
by trapyoung
well then you shouldn't be asking to legalize deadbeating, you should talk about consensus deadbeating, if the opponent agrees i see no problem with it but for someone who doesn't appreciate it i'd find it very frustrating to have happen to me.
and hulmey, flaming kids out of FW is not a very nice thing to do.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:36 pm
by Timminz
hulmey wrote:im not interested in you opinons really
No kidding? Well, that's not going to stop me pointing out when you're being...unreasonable... with your expectations. You started this thread, saying basically "Hey, I think it's fine to deadbeat a speed game, when I know I'm losing. What do you guys think?" This was followed by many a reply of, "That's stupid. Just play the game out." So, based on the general consensus here, you have 2 options. Either stop being a sore loser and finish the games you start, or accept the fact that sometimes you act like a tool in games.
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:42 pm
by IronE.GLE
hulmey wrote:Timminz wrote:hulmey wrote:im not interested in you opinons really
No kidding? Well, that's not going to stop me pointing out when you're being...unreasonable... with your expectations. You started this thread, saying basically "Hey, I think it's fine to deadbeat a speed game, when I know I'm losing. What do you guys think?" This was followed by many a reply of, "That's stupid. Just play the game out." So, based on the general consensus here, you have 2 options. Either stop being a sore loser and finish the games you start, or accept the fact that sometimes you act like a tool in games.
does....... not........ compute.....

Re: Legalized Deadbeating

Posted:
Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:54 pm
by hulmey
okay your all online....this game[Game] 2715253[/Game]
player is a dead duck and has no chance in hell of winning. However due to the game type this game will go on for another 5 rounds. PLease check it out and maybe u will see what im trying to say
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

Posted:
Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:55 pm
by hulmey
trapyoung wrote:well then you shouldn't be asking to legalize deadbeating, you should talk about consensus deadbeating, if the opponent agrees i see no problem with it but for someone who doesn't appreciate it i'd find it very frustrating to have happen to me.
and hulmey, flaming kids out of FW is not a very nice thing to do.
hmmm, he called me a dumbfucker.
To IronE.GLE With that attitude and ur inexperience please shut up. And medals go back to the beginning of time. Why you commenting on something you have no experience in??
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:00 pm
by trapyoung
hulmey wrote:hmmm, he called me a dumbfucker.
To IronE.GLE With that attitude and ur inexperience please shut up. And medals go back to the beginning of time. Why you commenting on something you have no experience in??
well you were acting like a dumbfucker, an arrogant fucker at the least starting a thread and then saying how you didn't care about any of our opinions. i think it's pretty evident to most of us here you're talking to just hear yourself speak, and you so conveniently seem to ignore the opinions of happy2seeu, timminz, and myself, people who all have the experience you criticize irone.gle of not having... no retort for us?
Re: Legalized Deadbeating

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:32 pm
by mountainbill
I don't play 1v1 or doubles, but if I did humley would be on my foe list.