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das schloss

PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:09 pm
by jakeo94
#-o das schloss. why cant we make a new game does anyone have an answer :-k

Re: das schloss

PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:13 pm
by Curmudgeonx
I believe that the Foundry has the answer, but my understanding in short is that Terminator/Assassin games cannot function due to the setup and unconquerability of certain territories.

Re: das schloss

PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:24 pm
by t-o-m
Curmudgeonx wrote:I believe that the Foundry has the answer, but my understanding in short is that Terminator/Assassin games cannot function due to the setup and unconquerability of certain territories.

not true at all.
The map was quenched and loaded with the knowledge of this,

the gameplay is being re-done and a new layout will be arranged.
Hold tight, it'll be back soon.

Re: das schloss

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:23 pm
by owenshooter
t-o-m wrote:not true at all.
The map was quenched and loaded with the knowledge of this,

the gameplay is being re-done and a new layout will be arranged.
Hold tight, it'll be back soon.

never get me on that mess of a map, ever... don't care what they do to fix it.-0

Re: das schloss

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:40 pm
by Assassin07
idk i wonder if it will work

Re: das schloss

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:45 pm
by Curmudgeonx
t-o-m wrote:
Curmudgeonx wrote:I believe that the Foundry has the answer, but my understanding in short is that Terminator/Assassin games cannot function due to the setup and unconquerability of certain territories.

not true at all.
The map was quenched and loaded with the knowledge of this,

the gameplay is being re-done and a new layout will be arranged.
Hold tight, it'll be back soon.


How is the terminator games not functioning "not true at all"? I am in a terminator game presently and it can only be played to take the goal(s). No one can take the others out. So it can be played, but not as a "terminator" game. I would imagine that assassin would presently a similar problem.

I have noted that it is being re-worked. But "not true at all" is not true at all.

Re: das schloss

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:48 pm
by t-o-m
Curmudgeonx wrote:
t-o-m wrote:
Curmudgeonx wrote:I believe that the Foundry has the answer, but my understanding in short is that Terminator/Assassin games cannot function due to the setup and unconquerability of certain territories.

not true at all.
The map was quenched and loaded with the knowledge of this,

the gameplay is being re-done and a new layout will be arranged.
Hold tight, it'll be back soon.


How is the terminator games not functioning "not true at all"? I am in a terminator game presently and it can only be played to take the goal(s). No one can take the others out. So it can be played, but not as a "terminator" game. I would imagine that assassin would presently a similar problem.

I have noted that it is being re-worked. But "not true at all" is not true at all.

you said the term games arent functioning, they are!
you said yourself, you're playing one!
how about assassin?
i won an assassin one...dumbass.

The map was made knowing that this was PURELY an objective map, why would you wanna kill someone if the object of the game is to hold somewhere?

Re: das schloss

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:52 pm
by Curmudgeonx
T-o-m (currently on the rag it appears) screeched:
The map was made knowing that this was PURELY an objective map, why would you wanna kill someone if the object of the game is to hold somewhere?


If it is a purely objective map, and the objective of terminator is to 1) take out individuals for points independently of the objective of the map, and 2) take the objective of the maps, and given that there are areas in the bottom left of the map that other players cannot be reached/defeated, the objective #1 of Terminator games is impossible.

If you wish to continue to flame, I know a place we can go . . .

Re: das schloss

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:05 am
by Thezzaruz
Curmudgeonx wrote:If it is a purely objective map, and the objective of terminator is to 1) take out individuals for points independently of the objective of the map, and 2) take the objective of the maps, and given that there are areas in the bottom left of the map that other players cannot be reached/defeated, the objective #1 of Terminator games is impossible.


That is NOT an objective on this map. Does that mean that termin/assasin games can't be played as usual? Yes but that was known from the start and hence has nothing to do with this touch-up as you hinted at in your first post. t-o-m might not have put it in the best words but he is fully correct.

Re: das schloss

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:27 am
by cairnswk
Guys.
1. There are currently 36 games still active on the old map. The new map will not be uploaded and re-quenched until those games are finished.
2. I am pleased that this map is being re-worked, because in my experience there were several gameplay faults namely bottlenecks and unfair attack abilities on the old map that needed attention.
3. There was also the possibility of being able to take out your opponents too easily in some areas and that caused a disadvantage too early on in the game.
4. Small player number games definitely gave the advantage to the first starter
5. After a vote, the map will remain an "objective only" map meaning that it will be impossible to eliminate your opponents regardless what style of game (standard/assassin/terminator etc) you're playing. This also means that to win the map you must gain the objectives stated and hold them for one round. If those players take the objectives from you, then you have to try again and still hold the objectives for another round.
6. It is not an easy map, so don't expect a quick game unless you're playing 1 vs 1, and that could take a while.
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7. The map is being re-worked, and your input would be appreciated here