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WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:06 am
by suggs
A suitably pompous title i thought ;)
To keep this brief:

I still think, for whats it worth, that wicked's firing seemed unjust.
However, over the weekend, i began to get a bad taste in my mouth -and not just the usual. I was as guilty as most, if not more, on the personal attacks front.
And this is the point: Lets stop the personal attacks on Twill and Lack.
Rational debate, and civilised argument is always the most effective way to DURABLE change. Unless there is something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with the system (USA 1770s, RUssia 1917 etc).
That isnt the case here. I still have crticisms as to the way this site is run -more genuine listening to the community, for example, and greater openness -but the system itself, a small group of mods/admin is fine.
And lets be honest -whether its fine or not, its here to stay.

But the key point -lets try and remember that we're all human beings, and theres no excuse for vindictiveness and viciousness, unless serious crimes have been committed. Since this is the internet, thats virtually impossible -no serious "crime" has been perpertrated, so there's no excuse for bile or trying to ruin peoples private lives.

So -lets continue to voice dissent and disagreement where appropriate -but lets keep it civil, and in proportion.

STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS.

Oh, and to all those worried about "forum credibilty" -get a life :P

ps since I can't post a thread title properly, I hereby resign my memebership of the human race :P

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:23 am
by Ray Rider
Agreed =D> =D>

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:28 am
by Interfacer PH
I'm not sure I agree with CICILITY.

http://www.cicil.org/about_CICIL.htm

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:11 am
by Juan_Bottom
So what's this thread for? Is this 'the prius owners' thread? Pat each other on the back and feel good?

I agree that there no sense in verbally fighting about this... but give me some direction to reply to your post... :(

Mebbe we could just sponser an actual civil war on maps?

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:50 am
by jbrettlip
Wow, the leader of the revolution has actually given up 4 days in...While I am glad to see you have found your senses, I was enjoying watching you spin out of control.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:56 am
by Juan_Bottom
You need to delete those words under your sig.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:30 am
by jbrettlip
There are no words under my sig, if that was addressed to me.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:34 am
by Juan_Bottom
I ment your avatar, sorry.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:39 am
by suggs
Juan_Bottom wrote:So what's this thread for? Is this 'the prius owners' thread? Pat each other on the back and feel good?

I agree that there no sense in verbally fighting about this... but give me some direction to reply to your post... :(

Mebbe we could just sponser an actual civil war on maps?

This thread is a statement of intent -its basically saying while I will support wicked in any practical sensible measures, I will not be part of any immature and counter producitve smear campaign against the admins of this site.
A total waste of time, and dashed impolite :P

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:41 am
by jbrettlip
Juan_Bottom wrote:I ment your avatar, sorry.


Why, I can't control who or what I love.

And Suggs, nice politically correct responses...I have a strange feeling Twill or LAck has taken over your account and posting in your absence!

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:42 am
by suggs
jbrettlip wrote:Wow, the leader of the revolution has actually given up 4 days in...While I am glad to see you have found your senses, I was enjoying watching you spin out of control.


I was never the leader, have never been a leader and will never marry...um sorry, i meant will never lead.
What other people do is up to them -personally, I'm sick of fake, fantasy ego-inflating cyber nonsense -its a waste of time, and its causing a bad atmosphere on this site. Its also counter productive -the best way to change things is to make sensible suggestions, like Jiminskis Community moderation thing -which i admit i didnt really look at properly.
Shouting "Boo to the mods" is a laugh in flame wars, bu8t once personal info gets involved, a line has been crossed. Feelings can get hurt, and where's the fun in that?

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:46 am
by suggs
jbrettlip wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:I ment your avatar, sorry.


Why, I can't control who or what I love.

And Suggs, nice politically correct responses...I have a strange feeling Twill or LAck has taken over your account and posting in your absence!


You don't understand what the phrase "politically correct" means. It means (for example) saying "Petrol is bad" becuase the environmental lobby are the dominant political influence.
Yeah, i could slag off twill and Lack BUT I DONT KNOW THEM AT ALL, so whats the point, or fairness in that?
And you didnt read my post -I'm saying that i think that Admin have made some mistakes (don't we all?) but making personal attacks/releasing private info about admin is unacceptable.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:48 am
by Juan_Bottom
suggs wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:So what's this thread for? Is this 'the prius owners' thread? Pat each other on the back and feel good?

I agree that there no sense in verbally fighting about this... but give me some direction to reply to your post... :(

Mebbe we could just sponser an actual civil war on maps?

This thread is a statement of intent -its basically saying while I will support wicked in any practical sensible measures, I will not be part of any immature and counter producitve smear campaign against the admins of this site.
A total waste of time, and dashed impolite :P


Good! I think I've followed those very guidelines thus far. Though I admit I did call TWILL "TWILLDO" once. I ment no offence.

jbrettlip wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:I ment your avatar, sorry.


Why, I can't control who or what I love.

And Suggs, nice politically correct responses...I have a strange feeling Twill or LAck has taken over your account and posting in your absence!


It's offensive to me, for reasons I'd rather not discuss; And because I've asked you to.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:49 am
by yeti_c
Juan_Bottom wrote:It's offensive to me, for reasons I'd rather not discuss; And because I've asked you to.


I have to say it is probably a step too far and am in agreement with 1 bottom.

C.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:51 am
by jbrettlip
Says the guy who is trying to bait about 8 billion of the world's religious people.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:53 am
by wacicha
Juan_Bottom wrote:I ment your avatar, sorry.



That avatar comment was off topic BUT

If you meant the statement the sexiest clan. There is nothing wrong with having high hopes. But there are a couple of very new hmmm cute people in that clan who have brought that statement into a better light.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:53 am
by yeti_c
jbrettlip wrote:Says the guy who is trying to bait about 8 billion of the world's religious people.


Smurfs aren't a religious symbol are they?

C.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:57 am
by jbrettlip
I am sure they are to someone, yeti! No that was directed at juan and his new clan sig. Sorry about the confusion.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:02 am
by yeti_c
jbrettlip wrote:I am sure they are to someone, yeti! No that was directed at juan and his new clan sig. Sorry about the confusion.


No worries - I changed mine just in case I caused offence!!

C

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:03 am
by tzor
Juan_Bottom wrote:So what's this thread for? Is this 'the prius owners' thread? Pat each other on the back and feel good?


WTF? This ain't my thread. Just because I'm getting 50 MPG and you ain't. :lol:

But if you really want a fruity car you can feel good driving ...

Click image to enlarge.
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Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:07 am
by Juan_Bottom
wacicha wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:I ment your avatar, sorry.



That avatar comment was off topic BUT

If you meant the statement the sexiest clan. There is nothing wrong with having high hopes. But there are a couple of very new hmmm cute people in that clan who have brought that statement into a better light.


Are you telling me that this site condones saying "I LOVE LYMES DISEASE?" Especially in this context? Are you trying to insult me? Surely you've missed the point I had made.

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:10 am
by Juan_Bottom
tzor wrote:But if you really want a fruity car you can feel good driving ...


How? The flies following everywhere you go would be terrible....

I believe there is a thread in the chatter-box that is looking for this photo....

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:12 am
by suggs
Loving the debate on the key issues :lol:

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:14 am
by owenshooter
Juan_Bottom wrote:
wacicha wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:I ment your avatar, sorry.



That avatar comment was off topic BUT

If you meant the statement the sexiest clan. There is nothing wrong with having high hopes. But there are a couple of very new hmmm cute people in that clan who have brought that statement into a better light.


Are you telling me that this site condones saying "I LOVE LYMES DISEASE?" Especially in this context? Are you trying to insult me? Surely you've missed the point I had made.

why are you so off topic in this thread? if you want to to go this off topic, start another thread. funny, you have gone from the revolution to the fight against brett's avatar... wow...-0

Re: WICKED, TWILL AND THE "CICIL WAR" ETC

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:16 am
by jbrettlip
I guess this proves the revolution has quieted itself down. And some people believe in freedom of speech, but only for themselves. Bravo Juan!!!! (I wish my keeyboard had that upside exclamation point. It would have been funny to type that.)