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Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:47 pm
by PLAYER57832
I was just informed that we premiums have an inbuilt statistical advantage when playing non premium, because, I was told "it only makes business sense!".

I DID NOT KNOW THIS! In fact, I think I have been seriously short changed! I seem to lose just as frequently to no premiums as to premiums. Perhaps even more?

I suspect I am not the only one so deprived! We must unite and demand our rights!

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:32 am
by xeno
lol.
this deserves some bumpage

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:35 am
by e_i_pi
Let me get my fire-retardent suit on

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:38 am
by FabledIntegral
Of course it makes sense - you want to turn off all new potential members from the site that haven't paid yet. Why in the world wouldn't you try to keep a small community and hush away all newcomers...

Personally I love the extra dice rolls. Worth every penny.

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:48 am
by owenshooter
can you please put up the original statement so i can gawk at it's idiotic beauty?-0

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:11 am
by Juan_Bottom
I respect PLAYER, and if she says we have an advantage, then I believe her...

But then why exactly should I be upset? For the record, I believe I lose much more to premiums, but the again, that's mostly all I play...

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:57 am
by tzor
PLAYER57832 wrote:I was just informed that we premiums have an inbuilt statistical advantage when playing non premium, because, I was told "it only makes business sense!".


Yes this is true, in fact it is intitutively obvious to even a casual observer. You see premium players get to play more games at the same time than fremium players and the law of averages is always better with more numbers than with fewer. That and when we are kicking someone ass in 4 games we tend ot forget that we are getting our own asses kicked in 6 games. Drop that number down to 2 and 3 and you have one unhappy fremium.

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:14 pm
by PLAYER57832
Juan_Bottom wrote:I respect PLAYER, and if she says we have an advantage, then I believe her...

But then why exactly should I be upset? For the record, I believe I lose much more to premiums, but the again, that's mostly all I play...

Well, it was certainly "news" to me!

Jokes aside, I tried to point out that premiums do play more and so often (definitely not always) are a bit better ... but I should not have bothered. I just thought it was too good a comment not to share.

And, in case there are others who seriously believe this (no, I don't include you Juan ;) ), perhaps to bring to Admins attention. But ... well, if they haven't convinced folks that the dice truly are random ... I don't see how this little twist will be disproven, either.

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:44 pm
by magiccarpet
<mod edit> I heart Twill </mod edit>

Edit: At least I think that's what he meant to say....
--TFP

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:50 pm
by shadowsteel9
you just joined less than 24 hours ago, who are you to be making judgements

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:50 pm
by Timminz
shadowsteel9 wrote:you just joined less than 24 hours ago, who are you to be making judgements


a multi

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:51 pm
by magiccarpet
+3 to Timminz

shadowsteel, you can go clean the decks with a toothbrush

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:52 pm
by shadowsteel9
mostlikely

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:02 pm
by FabledIntegral
tzor wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:I was just informed that we premiums have an inbuilt statistical advantage when playing non premium, because, I was told "it only makes business sense!".


Yes this is true, in fact it is intitutively obvious to even a casual observer. You see premium players get to play more games at the same time than fremium players and the law of averages is always better with more numbers than with fewer. That and when we are kicking someone ass in 4 games we tend ot forget that we are getting our own asses kicked in 6 games. Drop that number down to 2 and 3 and you have one unhappy fremium.


That has *nothing* to do with the law of averages. I suggest you go back and take statistics again. No statistical advantage is gained. Both accounts have the ability to approach infinity in the number of games played. Freemium may approach infinity slower, yet it still approaches infinity and thus there is no difference between the two in terms of games played when trying to figure out statistics.

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:38 pm
by cicero
PLAYER57832 wrote:I was just informed that we premiums have an inbuilt statistical advantage when playing non premium, because, I was told "it only makes business sense!".

I DID NOT KNOW THIS! In fact, I think I have been seriously short changed! I seem to lose just as frequently to no premiums as to premiums. Perhaps even more?

I suspect I am not the only one so deprived! We must unite and demand our rights!

owenshooter wrote:can you please put up the original statement so i can gawk at it's idiotic beauty?-0

I'm with owen on this one (which is freaky enough in itself ;) ) ... show us the money Mrs PLAYER !!

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:22 pm
by Curmudgeonx
Aaah, subtle internet sarcasm.

New postby PLAYER57832 on Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:18 pm
Since a mod asked ... 2828905

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:18 am
by owenshooter
i pm'd the guy in question, and enlightened him in a very kind way. he wasn't aware of some of the basic facts about CC and how it all works. then i told him how to look at the top of the leader board to see all the freemiums sitting on the first and second page, etc... he was just making assumptions, and now knows he was incorrect...-0

p.s.-whew, he almost let the cat out of the bag@!!!

Re: Attention all premiums!

PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:21 pm
by PLAYER57832
:D
Honestly, that was partly why I posted ... My saying that was something differant from someone else saying it. Also, I was tired and just did not have the creativity to come up with a nice comeback. Just "hey .. no way"... and that was not enough.

However, the strange part is that this guy is in no way a newbie, he has been around since January 2007! Makes me wonder how many others are out there with similar ideas.