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Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:49 pm
by retrocrush
wacicha edited

Jeez...it just gets worse and worse. Now the historical gameplay ratings are all zeroes out (which affects the overall score) and nothing is stopping frivolous tag abuse. Why does this shit just get shoved down our throat, anyway? I don't recall seeing any heads up about this at all?

Seriously, $25 may not be a lot of money to some, but I enjoyed the system the way it was. The ratings is a legit part of the gameplaying experience and you just keep making it worse and worse. Do you have any regard for the user community here?

I can't wait for bitter idiots to put totally bogus negative tags on the zeroes now. Seriously, if you're going to do this, you might as well just go back to freeform ratings comments.

I thought the whole purpose of going to stars only was to make it simpler and less controversial for everyone, players and mods alike.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:55 pm
by Joodoo
Well, it did get more and more complex, which I don't like...

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:36 pm
by barterer2002
retrocrush wrote:Now the historical gameplay ratings are all zeroes out (which affects the overall score)


You realize of course that a 0 merely means unrated, it does not count towards the totals.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:06 pm
by retrocrush
barterer2002 wrote:
retrocrush wrote:Now the historical gameplay ratings are all zeroes out (which affects the overall score)


You realize of course that a 0 merely means unrated, it does not count towards the totals.



No, all of your former numerical ratings in that category have now been zeroed out, whether they were a 4 or a 1, so it DOES affect the overall rating. I went from a 4.5 to a 4.4 with no new actual ratings.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:10 pm
by jbrettlip
If you want to be taken seriously, you should change the topic subject. Dropping the F bomb will only attract the wrong kind of attention to your thread...

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:23 pm
by hulmey
jbrettlip wrote:If you want to be taken seriously, you should change the topic subject. Dropping the F bomb will only attract the wrong kind of attention to your thread...


Thus hte above dropping in. Anyways, your wasting you breath. CC doesnt listen!!

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:29 pm
by jbrettlip
I think the new ratings system is the product of about 30 pages of posts over a month or so. SO maybe CC doesn't listen to YOU, but they listen.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:40 pm
by jako
maybe if u wanted the rating system how u liked, u should have voiced ur opinion on the rating redevelopment thread more.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:53 pm
by hulmey
jbrettlip wrote:I think the new ratings system is the product of about 30 pages of posts over a month or so. SO maybe CC doesn't listen to YOU, but they listen.


bollocks to you. As ususal sprouting bs. They listen to what they want to hear! Furthermore, this new addons confused me, let alone a new player. New players have difficulty in understanding the game, so now we add onto this burden by complicating the feedback system!?!?!

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:53 pm
by hulmey
jako wrote:maybe if u wanted the rating system how u liked, u should have voiced ur opinion on the rating redevelopment thread more.

you talking to me?

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:16 am
by lancehoch
retrocrush wrote:Jeez...it just gets worse and worse. Now the historical gameplay ratings are all zeroes out (which affects the overall score) and nothing is stopping frivolous tag abuse. Why does this shit just get shoved down our throat, anyway? I don't recall seeing any heads up about this at all?

I will post this in here as well. There were never any gameplay ratings, this is a new category. Teamwork has been changed to a tag. Attendance has been automated. That is how your rating changed, nothing was zeroed.

retrocrush wrote:Seriously, $25 may not be a lot of money to some, but I enjoyed the system the way it was. The ratings is a legit part of the gameplaying experience and you just keep making it worse and worse. Do you have any regard for the user community here?

Yes, there was the thread at the top of this forum "Ratings Reloaded". That thread has been around for a while.

retrocrush wrote:I can't wait for bitter idiots to put totally bogus negative tags on the zeroes now. Seriously, if you're going to do this, you might as well just go back to freeform ratings comments.

I thought the whole purpose of going to stars only was to make it simpler and less controversial for everyone, players and mods alike.

Zeros do not count against you, they are not averaged in.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:03 am
by Scott-Land
retrocrush wrote:wacicha edited

Jeez...it just gets worse and worse. Now the historical gameplay ratings are all zeroes out (which affects the overall score) and nothing is stopping frivolous tag abuse. Why does this shit just get shoved down our throat, anyway? I don't recall seeing any heads up about this at all?

Seriously, $25 may not be a lot of money to some, but I enjoyed the system the way it was. The ratings is a legit part of the gameplaying experience and you just keep making it worse and worse. Do you have any regard for the user community here?

I can't wait for bitter idiots to put totally bogus negative tags on the zeroes now. Seriously, if you're going to do this, you might as well just go back to freeform ratings comments.

I thought the whole purpose of going to stars only was to make it simpler and less controversial for everyone, players and mods alike.



you tool- you left me all 1s because I threw you on ignore...wtf is wrong with these idiots outside of being divorced from their brain?

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:11 am
by Bruceswar
Scott-Land wrote:

you tool- you left me all 1s because I threw you on ignore...wtf is wrong with these idiots outside of being divorced from their brain?



This seems about right... That is why this feedback system is worthless even with the updates.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:19 am
by firstholliday
I have some 1,s from Mystique (remember the cheater with multiple accounts that paid his way out?) i told him in a game that he was a cheater and in revanche i got 1,s. In the old way i would have it removed. Now it's a bit better coz i can write something with the score he gave me.

I feel it's a bit better, but i do think the old system had a more personal touch and you could actually write anything you thought about the game in play.

Fun thing is i can call Nesterdude a loser and a coward in this system. Which i did offcourse :mrgreen:

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:20 am
by Pedronicus
lancehoch wrote:Attendance has been automated.

So where does the automated attendance appear?

Also, what is the point of feedback, if we can't actually use it to limit unknown idiots from joining games I start?
I've not played everyone, but I'm sure some people with sub 4.0 overall ratings are people to avoid.
Why not make this another Premium perk to allow shit players to either play non premium or be forced to start their own games?

I don't want to have to play every idiot and then stick them on ignore to avoid playing them again

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:23 am
by chipv
Pedronicus wrote:
lancehoch wrote:Attendance has been automated.

So where does the automated attendance appear?

Also, what is the point of feedback, if we can't actually use it to limit unknown idiots from joining games I start?
I've not played everyone, but I'm sure some people with sub 4.0 overall ratings are people to avoid.
Why not make this another Premium perk to allow shit players to either play non premium or be forced to start their own games?

I don't want to have to play every idiot and then stick them on ignore to avoid playing them again


Automated attendance is in the profile under Games.
Off-topic please confirm the Triples medals problem is fixed.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:12 am
by deliaselene
jbrettlip wrote:If you want to be taken seriously, you should change the topic subject. Dropping the F bomb will only attract the wrong kind of attention to your thread...


Brett that was thoughtful and concise...did you run out of vodka?

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:48 am
by JBoy
why do we need the ratings ? most players are between 4.7 - 5.0, so what's the point ? do you not play somebody because he is a 4.6 ? what if they join after you ? i think it is a whole lot of wasted time arguing over something unimportant..how about a simple would you play this person again, yes or no ? and we use that ..

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:04 am
by retrocrush
Scott-Land wrote:you tool- you left me all 1s because I threw you on ignore...wtf is wrong with these idiots outside of being divorced from their brain?


Nah, I left you all 1s because you kept going on about how I suicided you when I redeemed a set in our Freestyle, had more than enough to take you out AND get your cards, but my connection froze in mid attack. Despite my explanations in chat about the connectivity issues, you just kept pushing it, and were a poor sport. I love how when new people attack some vets, it always has to be a suicide.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:13 am
by Bruceswar
retrocrush wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:you tool- you left me all 1s because I threw you on ignore...wtf is wrong with these idiots outside of being divorced from their brain?


Nah, I left you all 1s because you kept going on about how I suicided you when I redeemed a set in our Freestyle, had more than enough to take you out AND get your cards, but my connection froze in mid attack. Despite my explanations in chat about the connectivity issues, you just kept pushing it, and were a poor sport. I love how when new people attack some vets, it always has to be a suicide.



95% of the time it is a suicide or a terrible play. Both are bad.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:13 am
by owenshooter
retrocrush wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:you tool- you left me all 1s because I threw you on ignore...wtf is wrong with these idiots outside of being divorced from their brain?


Nah, I left you all 1s because you kept going on about how I suicided you when I redeemed a set in our Freestyle, had more than enough to take you out AND get your cards, but my connection froze in mid attack. Despite my explanations in chat about the connectivity issues, you just kept pushing it, and were a poor sport. I love how when new people attack some vets, it always has to be a suicide.

can you two get a room and let us keep this on topic? jeez, if brett can stay on topic, it is a new dawn in the GD, and you two are ruining it for all of us here to discuss very important topics...-0

p.s.-no comment on the new system yet, i'm still getting used to the abuse of the stars... however, i DO realize that there was a thread for input, which i followed, and this is the culmination of an open debate.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:20 am
by retrocrush
Well, please create a category called Stupidity and rate me a "5" in it, because I didnt' even realize "Gameplay" didn't exist before. On further reflection, I do actually like this better than the more recent incarnation. I am a stupid tool.

I like being able to respond to the feedback with the facts. I was even honest enough to agree when it was deserved.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:09 pm
by Scott-Land
firstholliday wrote:I have some 1,s from Mystique (remember the cheater with multiple accounts that paid his way out?) i told him in a game that he was a cheater and in revanche i got 1,s. In the old way i would have it removed. Now it's a bit better coz i can write something with the score he gave me.

I feel it's a bit better, but i do think the old system had a more personal touch and you could actually write anything you thought about the game in play.

Fun thing is i can call Nesterdude a loser and a coward in this system. Which i did offcourse :mrgreen:


Hehee- I do too and tagged "bad teammate" when we beat them 4-0.

owenshooter wrote:
retrocrush wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:you tool- you left me all 1s because I threw you on ignore...wtf is wrong with these idiots outside of being divorced from their brain?


Nah, I left you all 1s because you kept going on about how I suicided you when I redeemed a set in our Freestyle, had more than enough to take you out AND get your cards, but my connection froze in mid attack. Despite my explanations in chat about the connectivity issues, you just kept pushing it, and were a poor sport. I love how when new people attack some vets, it always has to be a suicide.

can you two get a room and let us keep this on topic? jeez, if brett can stay on topic, it is a new dawn in the GD, and you two are ruining it for all of us here to discuss very important topics...-0

p.s.-no comment on the new system yet, i'm still getting used to the abuse of the stars... however, i DO realize that there was a thread for input, which i followed, and this is the culmination of an open debate.


So Owen you decided to chime in when I was on topic discussing how he abused the system, and you spam with 'no comment on the new system yet'. Perhaps you shouldn't spam until you do have an opinion.

Re: Stop spamming up a good thread

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:20 pm
by owenshooter
Scott-Land wrote:So Owen you decided to chime in when I was on topic discussing how he abused the system, and you spam with 'no comment on the new system yet'. Perhaps you shouldn't spam until you do have an opinion.

you were off topic, about a personal spat between the two of you, because he mentioned you as an example of abuse of the system (and he was spot on, too, with what you left him, ahem...). sooo, don't even try to act like you were on topic in your defense of what you did. and i just nudged you to drop it so it could remain on topic for those of us that care. and, i do not have an opinion about it, because none of the opinions i had were implemented. i like that you can comment on what people have left, but it doesn't take care of the abuse aspects of it all OR how to get abusive ratings removed.-0

p.s.-nice try scott, but you were off topic and you know it. keep your personal spats in pm's or im's... if i can get a ban for going off topic, i'm sure you can too...-0

p.p.s.-calling someone a TOOL is not the way to keep it on topic, it is a way to derail a thread. name calling is not for the GD. it doesn't raise the level of discourse, and encourages poor behaviour from other members that may view your actions as "the norm" in the GD. let's all police ourselves, and then the mods can spend their time on more important things.

Re: Stop f-ing up the ratings system

PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:07 pm
by CrazyAnglican
retrocrush wrote:I went from a 4.5 to a 4.4 with no new actual ratings.



Yeah I went from a 4.9 to a 5.0. I gotta go piss somebody off so I don't look like a total wuss. :shock: