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Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:24 pm
by deliaselene
the_lion was perma banned...

as wickid is no longer a mod on this site and it was due to her inconsistencies and baiting that the_lion was banned ... on behalf of FW we would like to ask Lack, Twill and King A to reconsider the decision.

Specific details can be provided...

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:29 pm
by apey
please let us have kitty back :cry:
pretty pretty pretty pretty please with sugar and cherries (unless you are andy then bananas)
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Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:06 pm
by TheProwler
I think it is clear that a lot of paying members of Conquer Club would like to see the_lion's membership reinstated. But is anyone in authority listening?

delia, can you ask someone in power to post here so we know where they stand?

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:07 pm
by Night Strike
If you want an admin to hear you, you'll have a better chance in General Discussion......let me give you a hand in that direction.

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:13 pm
by The Fuzzy Pengui
I am not able to answer the question, but since the_lion is constantly being caught with multis (one was banned from chat just tonight even), I would assume they would say no.

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:53 pm
by danodukebb
that may be true but if he wasn't banned by wicked in the first place, then he wouldn't have to

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:58 pm
by apey
he has never made a multi to cheat he just wants to play and be part of the site
he won't make another multi if he is allowed back and if he does you can ban him again and we will not ask for him to come back :D promise

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:00 pm
by Optimus Prime
Creating a multi for any purpose is against the rules. I highly doubt he's ever coming back.

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:03 pm
by Androidz
One more on The_Lions side.

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:07 pm
by apey
Our attempts may be futile but we have to try
and is it really a multi if he has never had more than one account at a time :D

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:08 pm
by Optimus Prime
apey wrote:Our attempts may be futile but we have to try
and is it really a multi if he has never had more than one account at a time :D

Yes, it is still a multi. ;)

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:08 pm
by apey
:P

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:19 pm
by hulmey
Optimus Prime wrote:
apey wrote:Our attempts may be futile but we have to try
and is it really a multi if he has never had more than one account at a time :D

Yes, it is still a multi. ;)


lion was fun and made everyone laugh. He was good humoured and an injustice was done to him! How about you double the premium and let him back?

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:21 pm
by danodukebb
i wouldn't go that far but at least un ban him, and tell him he has one strike, he violates it and he's gone

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:28 pm
by Optimus Prime
hulmey wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:
apey wrote:Our attempts may be futile but we have to try
and is it really a multi if he has never had more than one account at a time :D

Yes, it is still a multi. ;)


lion was fun and made everyone laugh. He was good humoured and an injustice was done to him! How about you double the premium and let him back?

Has anyone ever been released from a permaban? Especially someone who continues to break the rules after they were banned?

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:32 pm
by Androidz
We should make a Free The_Lion card and make every1 write their name on it.

Then they relase him for sure..:D

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:38 pm
by danodukebb
Androidz wrote:We should make a Free The_Lion card and make every1 write their name on it.

Then they relase him for sure..:D


right :roll:

night strike say this were to happen, who would be the one who unbans him?

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:40 pm
by Smokingdude420
for some reason this post reminds me of that song "why cant we be friends? why cant we be friends?" :lol: honestly i don't know why lion got banned or who he really is but we all deserve a second chance give him a chance and if he messes up again then ban him for good and not let me off again

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:42 pm
by Night Strike
danodukebb wrote:night strike say this were to happen, who would be the one who unbans him?


Be careful on your typing, because you make it sound like I said that it would happen.

IF it were to happen, only the admins can make that decision. I suggest you all find exact evidence of abuse that would justify a release if you want to have even a slim chance. You've already heard evidence that he has created multis, which is against the site rules. You'll need evidence over opinions.

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:29 am
by danodukebb
ns, i wasn't in any way saying that thats why i put, "IF" it were to happen, my mistake if you took it the wrong way

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:53 am
by deliaselene
Optimus Prime wrote:
apey wrote:Our attempts may be futile but we have to try
and is it really a multi if he has never had more than one account at a time :D

Yes, it is still a multi. ;)



but it wasn't to cheat...

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:55 am
by deliaselene
Night Strike wrote:
danodukebb wrote:night strike say this were to happen, who would be the one who unbans him?


Be careful on your typing, because you make it sound like I said that it would happen.

IF it were to happen, only the admins can make that decision. I suggest you all find exact evidence of abuse that would justify a release if you want to have even a slim chance. You've already heard evidence that he has created multis, which is against the site rules. You'll need evidence over opinions.



and where would you like this evidence documented here in the thread? or directed to a specific mod... ?

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:03 am
by Androidz
Image

And here it is. Free The_Lion Card

Sign your name on it..

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:09 am
by Optimus Prime
deliaselene wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:
apey wrote:Our attempts may be futile but we have to try
and is it really a multi if he has never had more than one account at a time :D

Yes, it is still a multi. ;)



but it wasn't to cheat...

Home Page wrote:Having multiple accounts is considered cheating. We routinely scan for multiple accounts and offending members will be banned from Conquer Club.


Your intent in having multiple accounts doesn't matter. When you join, you agree not to have more than one account as an individual is against the rules. If you want an example, look at spinwizard sometime. He created a multi to use for playing mafia games, and he got busted and punished.

Re: Everyone deserves a second chance...case in point the_lion

PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:17 am
by turtlewax
You know, its a funny thing about multi-ism. You learn along the way that the game isn't very important. What is important is the fun that is had in the forums. The friends that you make and the chance to be silly and ridiculous. And here I am. There is a case being had about me, the_lion. I was banned. And here is the reason why, since so many people seem to forget.

In the beginning, I posted as a member of the yakuza against the pleasant chaps and a few others. (Beastly, you know I love you :) ). Along the way, I broke some minor rules. I saw other people doing it. Why did others not get called out for spamming my threads, though I surely got popped for it all the time. I could even say in my thread "stop spamming my thread..." but no one would listen. As you can imagine, there were other inconsistencies, and I clamored on about them. I wrote to the moderators and posted things about the mods in the forums. It was frustrating.

My adversary was wicked. Now she is gone. But make no mistake, she is here among us even now, as many of you know. Nonetheless, I promised to not give her up, and I do keep my word.

One day, I got into a tiff with firth. He dug into me hard and wouldn't let go. I received a picture of him in my inbox and I used it to destroy him (firth, you know I love you too... just not in a homo way, you know.) Using his picture on the forums was wrong of me. I realize that now. I have apologized to firth, made friends with him and promised to him that I would not post his picture again, on this, or any other site. Since I am a man of my word, I have kept that promise.

I had words with twill about the matter, since he banned me temporarily for the offense. In the course of my dialog with twill, I chose to flame him for locking me down. I used content from my in box sent to me by him as material to flame him with. If there is a rule that says : THOU SHALL NOT FLAME MODS : Then I missed it. I do not believe that it exists. Apparently, I pissed twill off to the point that he banned me, a premium member of this site.

Now, I will tell you that someone made a couple of multi's for me. the_lion2 and the_lion3 were not accounts that I made. I created a couple of multi's just to play games with and they were snuffed out.

One day, my IP changed. I created polarbeast23. The_king65, who is too stupid to know, but took it on the advice of others, reported me. That account would still be active, had king not foiled me. King, you should know that I do not like you , even in the least and when the time comes, I will flame you at every opportunity, should I be permitted to return. You should lose sleep on that because you will look like a retarded monkey at every turn... not that you need me to do that.

Back on track, I learned of wicked's demise. And then I learned that she had lymes disease which was the cause for her inconsistency with her duties in the forums. It is my esteemed opinion that she should have had a leave of absence during her illness and that it was poor form to kick her out afterwards. That is not my fight, however, and I don't think that she really wants to come back.

When polar beast was finally banned, I was sent the usual email for disciplinary action. In it, it reads something to the effect of

"If you have Premium Membership and this is your second violation:
We've cancelled your Premium Membership and blocked you from playing new games and posting to the forum. The only way to remove this limitation is to upgrade to Premium Membership once again."

Hmmm...

This lead me to ask the question of Andy, who is a moderator that was investigating my case if I could come back should I pay premium.

The answer was:

"If you could assist us with details, we'd happy review the case. :) And if you upgrade to Premium Membership, you indeed can play again.


--Andy"

Now, many of you can say that I a breaking the rules, and that if I am allowed back that I am violation to the very nature of this sites rules, but I have to ask you, if the rules are stated above, and I was robbed of my second premium when I did nothing wrong, after having verified the situation with Andy, How is it that you can stand there and say "He is making multi accounts... bla bla bla" When you, CC, have robbed me in the first place. No one seems to remember any of this, which I have stated above.

Now, I have committed in my communications with Twill, Andy and Lack that I have learned my lessons well from my account as the lion. If it is so that that account is dead, then it is dead. But the polarbeast23 account is a legitimate account. I have promised to abide by the rules and to not strain the boundaries of flamewars again, if only my account can be reinstated. Should this not be the case, I have no choice but to seek legal action against Lack and the entity of CC, for legal and reimbursement. My case has been in limbo for 2 weeks now. If I don't hear something soon, I will have to proceed with legal channels.

As for the multi's, well... I will give the multi's up. and promise to never make another one. Ever. But lets all be clear here about multi accounts. The secret is out. The fact that I am here now after having been popped just this evening is telling in that it should be obvious that I will remain here one way or another.

Now, I think that no one here can say that I have not kept my word. I will not give wicked up, nor have I reposted the image of firth, so I think that my credibility should stand. I will abide by the rules and I will not challenge the boundary's set forth by the site mods again, but lets make a decision here mods... I need to be coordinating with my lawyer if this goes on too much longer.


This is the lion, signing off... I will consider this account busted, and I will not make another should you simply reinstate my polarbeast.

Cheers