Top 5 players for a given setting.

[Georgerx7di]

I would like to discuss who are the top 5 players for each setting. I will post the setting that I play, because that's the only one that I know. So here are who I think are the top 5 for std, seq, esc, 5 or 6 player games. Naturally I can only discuss those players I've played, so inevitably my list will be different from other people.

Top 5 Std, Seq, Esc, (no particular order)

Scott-Land
poo-maker
Kid_A
joecoolfrog
Maniacmath

Scott I have played over 150 games, he actually made most of his rank at this setting before playing more freestyle speed to get to the top. We started playing together when we were both stripes.

Poo started joining my rt's when we were both majors. Poo has an amazing ability to find a win when it doesn't appear to be there. He has always amazed me.

Kid_A in my opinion is on par with scott and poo. When Kid is playing I feel like I can't win. Reguardless of anything else he plays, at this setting he is one of the best.

frog came along later but still played several games with me. He shot up through the ranks very quickly. I believe he had to wait to play enough games to get his hat, even though he had the points. He too is a master at this setting.

Maniac made it to the top of the scoreboard playing this style of game, I'm not sure if anyone else can say that.

Honorable mention:

Comicboy is frogs son. Comic made it to first, but I've always thought that dad was a little better; however comic's ascent to the top was while I was gone for a year, so he no doubt improved during that time.

Robinette almost did what maniac did, she made it to 4th, and did it in very few games. I have only played 2 or 3 games against her though so I cannot give my opinion of her skill level.

RL_Orange is another guy I've only play a couple of times. He would most likely be on the list as he has beaten many top players and is no doubt skilled.

PointGuard is a solid player, needs to be more aggressive.

Sjnap, RashidJelzin and Blitzaholic. I have never played any of these three, but Scott says that they are very good at this setting.

Nuke Great player
Mikedoherty
Nietzsche was very good back in the day
Incandenza
Teylen
hrhwhett
dividebyzero
negoeien

Player who lost rank when they left but were very good:

dustymiller
jessiedarlin

Post your top 5, and be sure to list the setting, (i.e. freestyle speed, or triples flat rate, etc).

P.S. please only list players who you've played extensively with and you believe to be the best.

[Scott-Land]

I have 2 from your list that are in my Top 5 for 8 man Speed Freestyle, Escalating- in the order that I believe to be the best.

1) RashidJelzin: Extremely methodical and patient- reads the board better than anyone.
2) Poo-Maker: Flawless execution but stumbles a bit in the end game. Why I gave Rashid the edge.
3) FabledIntegral: Has an amazing quick thought process to equal his physical speed.
4) Maniacmath: Has the complete package and lightning fast.
5) Buizerd: Somewhat of a loose cannon, uses his aggressiveness to his advantage but it's also his downfall.

Players that round off the bottom half of the 10, Skillerman, King of Gods, Paddy The Cat, Woody123, Fantasianasian.

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

I would like to discuss who are the top 5 players for each setting. I will post the setting that I play, because that's the only one that I know. So here are who I think are the top 5 for std, seq, esc, 5 or 6 player games. Naturally I can only discuss those players I've played, so inevitably my list will be different from other people.

Top 5 Std, Seq, Esc, (no particular order)

Scott-Land
poo-maker
Kid_A
joecoolfrog
Maniacmath

Scott I have played over 150 games, he actually made most of his rank at this setting before playing more freestyle speed to get to the top. We started playing together when we were both stripes.

Poo started joining my rt's when we were both majors. Poo has an amazing ability to find a win when it doesn't appear to be there. He has always amazed me.

Kid_A in my opinion is on par with scott and poo. When Kid is playing I feel like I can't win. Reguardless of anything else he plays, at this setting he is one of the best.

frog came along later but still played several games with me. He shot up through the ranks very quickly. I believe he had to wait to play enough games to get his hat, even though he had the points. He too is a master at this setting.

Maniac made it to the top of the scoreboard playing this style of game, I'm not sure if anyone else can say that.

Honorable mention:

Comicboy is frogs son. Comic made it to first, but I've always thought that dad was a little better; however comic's ascent to the top was while I was gone for a year, so he no doubt improved during that time.

Robinette almost did what maniac did, she made it to 4th, and did it in very few games. I have only played 2 or 3 games against her though so I cannot give my opinion of her skill level.

RL_Orange is another guy I've only play a couple of times. He would most likely be on the list as he has beaten many top players and is no doubt skilled.

PointGuard is a solid player, needs to be more aggressive.

Sjnap, RashidJelzin and Blitzaholic. I have never played any of these three, but Scott says that they are very good at this setting.

Nuke Great player
Mikedoherty
Nietzsche was very good back in the day
Incandenza
Teylen
hrhwhett
dividebyzero

Player who lost rank when they left but were very good:

dustymiller
jessiedarlin

Post your top 5, and be sure to list the setting, (i.e. freestyle speed, or triples flat rate, etc).

P.S. please only list players who you've played extensively with and you believe to be the best.

your selections are way off because scott and poo play alot of freestyle which is where they obtain their points and rank from. kid A I never even heard of.

[comic boy]

Excluding Frog I always found these 5 tough cookies at seq escalating;

Sjnap
Poo
Scott
Maniacmath
Genghis Khan

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

Excluding Frog I always found these 5 tough cookies at seq escalating;

Sjnap
Poo
Scott
Maniacmath
Genghis Khan

your picks are wrong too

sjnap plays team games which is why he has a 72% win ratio and I repeat Poo and Scott play freestyle ...not seq.

[Georgerx7di]

I would like to discuss who are the top 5 players for each setting. I will post the setting that I play, because that's the only one that I know. So here are who I think are the top 5 for std, seq, esc, 5 or 6 player games. Naturally I can only discuss those players I've played, so inevitably my list will be different from other people.

Top 5 Std, Seq, Esc, (no particular order)

Scott-Land
poo-maker
Kid_A
joecoolfrog
Maniacmath

Scott I have played over 150 games, he actually made most of his rank at this setting before playing more freestyle speed to get to the top. We started playing together when we were both stripes.

Poo started joining my rt's when we were both majors. Poo has an amazing ability to find a win when it doesn't appear to be there. He has always amazed me.

Kid_A in my opinion is on par with scott and poo. When Kid is playing I feel like I can't win. Reguardless of anything else he plays, at this setting he is one of the best.

frog came along later but still played several games with me. He shot up through the ranks very quickly. I believe he had to wait to play enough games to get his hat, even though he had the points. He too is a master at this setting.

Maniac made it to the top of the scoreboard playing this style of game, I'm not sure if anyone else can say that.

Honorable mention:

Comicboy is frogs son. Comic made it to first, but I've always thought that dad was a little better; however comic's ascent to the top was while I was gone for a year, so he no doubt improved during that time.

Robinette almost did what maniac did, she made it to 4th, and did it in very few games. I have only played 2 or 3 games against her though so I cannot give my opinion of her skill level.

RL_Orange is another guy I've only play a couple of times. He would most likely be on the list as he has beaten many top players and is no doubt skilled.

PointGuard is a solid player, needs to be more aggressive.

Sjnap, RashidJelzin and Blitzaholic. I have never played any of these three, but Scott says that they are very good at this setting.

Nuke Great player
Mikedoherty
Nietzsche was very good back in the day
Incandenza
Teylen
hrhwhett
dividebyzero

Player who lost rank when they left but were very good:

dustymiller
jessiedarlin

Post your top 5, and be sure to list the setting, (i.e. freestyle speed, or triples flat rate, etc).

P.S. please only list players who you've played extensively with and you believe to be the best.

your selections are way off because scott and poo play alot of freestyle which is where they obtain their points and rank from. kid A I never even heard of.

Johny, I Know the people I've played with. I put them on here because they are good at this setting, doesn't mean that they haven't played a lot of games at other settings; all I'm saying is that they are good at this one. I didn't list anyone who I haven't played multiple times. If you want to give your own list, go ahead.

[Blitzaholic]

I would like to discuss who are the top 5 players for each setting. I will post the setting that I play, because that's the only one that I know. So here are who I think are the top 5 for std, seq, esc, 5 or 6 player games. Naturally I can only discuss those players I've played, so inevitably my list will be different from other people.

Top 5 Std, Seq, Esc, (no particular order)

Scott-Land
poo-maker
Kid_A
joecoolfrog
Maniacmath


Honorable mention:

Comicboy

Robinette

RL_Orange

PointGuard

Blitzaholic
Rashidjelzin
Sjnap I have never played any of these three, but Scott says that they are very good at this setting.

1. Comic boy
2. Maniacmath17
3. Sjnap
4. RL_Orange
5. Poo and Scott


this is for again 5 to 8 player singles which your start your thread with so i picked a few who i thought were the best, then at the end you ask about triples, flat rate, freestyle, teams??? well which is it? cause teams is another whole ball of wax.

You may have been best to ask top 5 to 10 best all around skilled risk players with mass diversity!

[Georgerx7di]

Well blitz if I asked for all around players I was afraid that I'd get people just going to the current scoreboard to make their list. Having said that I would certainly respect you're opinions on that matter.

[Blitzaholic]

oh and thank you scott-land for the high compliments in singles, I prefer teams much better, but like the singles against the best players every once in awhile if I got my games down. cheers



If you want my teams list of the best it is all in THOTA, maybe a few outside of THOTA



and if you want the best all-around, well rounded players skilled in all areas, all styles, all maps, well, would need to think, but this would be the ultimate.


I look at it like poker, there is no doubt Phil Hellmuth is the best no-limit poker Tournament Player in the world evidence by his world record of 11 or 12 wsop bracelets and countless of other huge money winnings and most cashes ever, etc, but is he is the best poker player? NO, cash games? NO. ALL poker games, holdem limit and no limit, omaha high and H/L, stud, razz, draw, etc, all poker games, best all around with diversity was probably chip reese, doyle brunson, barry greenstein, this is the ULTIMATE, therefore, I view it kinda like this risk site. there is singles. there is teams, and then there is the skilled awesome in both, adjacent, unlimited, flat rate, all styles, all maps, etc.

[Scott-Land]

I thought I'd have 2 from your list George but it turns out just one- because it's been so long that Poo and I have played Seq. I didn't put him in my top 5. I know he kicked my ass in those RTs back in the day tho'.

There are quite a few of great 6 man seq esc players- but when I think of exceptional and error free games time and time again, for 100s and 100s of games....these 5 come to mind.

1) Comic Boy
2) JoeCoolFrog
3) Sjnap
4) Georgerx
5) Maniacmath

Guys like Poo-Maker, Blitz, MHenni, GenghisCA, Zawbanjito, Likemee, Incand, Seul, and RL jump out as the best to have ever played the game. Few others that I haven't played enough with in Seq- like Incand. Roel, Velve, Rashid, but with his knowledge in Freestyle- I'm quite confident that he'd excel at it given the chance.

[Scott-Land]

oh and thank you scott-land for the high compliments in singles, I prefer teams much better, but like the singles against the best players every once in awhile if I got my games down. cheers



If you want my teams list of the best it is all in THOTA, maybe a few outside of THOTA



and if you want the best all-around, well rounded players skilled in all areas, all styles, all maps, well, would need to think, but this would be the ultimate.


I look at it like poker, there is no doubt Phil Hellmuth is the best no-limit poker Tournament Player in the world evidence by his world record of 11 or 12 wsop bracelets and countless of other huge money winnings and most cashes ever, etc, but is he is the best poker player? NO, cash games? NO. ALL poker games, holdem limit and no limit, omaha high and H/L, stud, razz, draw, etc, all poker games, best all around with diversity was probably chip reese, doyle brunson, barry greenstein, this is the ULTIMATE, therefore, I view it kinda like this risk site. there is singles. there is teams, and then there is the skilled awesome in both, adjacent, unlimited, flat rate, all styles, all maps, etc.

Chip and Ivey are probably the best all around cash game players....EDIT- Chip was I should say..

but back on topic- I think George is asking for the Top 5 in the different game types if I'm not mistaken.

[Blitzaholic]

I thought I'd have 2 from your list George but it turns out just one- because it's been so long that Poo and I have played Seq. I didn't put him in my top 5. I know he kicked my ass in those RTs back in the day tho'.

There are quite a few of great 6 man seq esc players- but when I think of exceptional and error free games time and time again, for 100s and 100s of games....these 5 come to mind.

1) Comic Boy
2) JoeCoolFrog
3) Sjnap
4) Georgerx
5) Maniacmath

Guys like Poo-Maker, Blitz, MHenni, GenghisCA, Zawbanjito, Likemee, Incand, Seul, and RL jump out as the best to have ever played the game. Few others that I haven't played enough with in Seq- like Rashid, but with his knowledge in Freestyle- I'm quite confident that he'd excel at it given the chance.

those are very good selections, I would really need to think upon my list of best ever all around players.

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

sjnap won a grand total of 34 games ( 27% win ratio ) according to those options. not sure how that qualifies as a top 5 player under those options. you guys need to research a little bit more before "throwing" names up there.

Scott-Land= won 23% of his games with those options.
won 29% of his games when you include freestyle with his speed hack

JoeCoolFrog= a big whooping 23%

Maniacmath= 26% ( so far the highest )

comic boy= 22%

how many of these wins were on the map classic? Almost all of them. If we are the best, than why are we a 1 map wonder?

im sure you will find alot of players with better win %'s than those that are listed. those players will range from 30-40% win ratios with those options.

[Gilligan]

sjnap won a grand total of 34 games ( 27% win ratio ) according to those options. not sure how that qualifies as a top 5 player under those options. you guys need to research a little bit more before "throwing" names up there.

Scott-Land= won 23% of his games with those options.
won 29% of his games when you include freestyle with his speed hack


im sure you will find alot of players with better win %'s than those that are listed

I also have 32% at standard, seq, esc.

[Blitzaholic]

Well blitz if I asked for all around players I was afraid that I'd get people just going to the current scoreboard to make their list. Having said that I would certainly respect you're opinions on that matter.

I'd say THOTA members

but if you needed specific players who are truly super at all games styles and maps, leaders with vision to think several rounds ahead, that excel and singles and teams, and every version of the games, hmmm, that's tough.

I will say this:

I do not think there is many, I may be biased, but will try not to be, ALL THOTA members excel at this, it is why they are THOTA, outside of Thota maybe a few, johnnyrocket deserves some credit here I think as does scott-land, scotty may not team much, but he has game when he does.

[Incandenza]

sjnap won a grand total of 34 games ( 27% win ratio ) according to those options. not sure how that qualifies as a top 5 player under those options. you guys need to research a little bit more before "throwing" names up there.

Scott-Land= won 23% of his games with those options.
won 29% of his games when you include freestyle with his speed hack

JoeCoolFrog= a big whooping 23%


im sure you will find alot of players with better win %'s than those that are listed

23% against the most elite competition CC has to offer is pretty damn good. You'd know that if you hadn't spent the last two years noob-hunting. I swear, if the title of the thread isn't "JR is the best player on CC", all you spit out is bile and hate. Must be lonely.

For my money, (and while I haven't played "hundreds and hundreds" of 6p escalators, I've played quite a few), my top five would be, in no particular order:
Scott
Kid_A
RL
maniacmath
cyberdaniel

George, Robin, comic, frog, and Teylen round out the top ten.

[khazalid]

top 5 sequential doubles in no particular order

DW
Blitz
BW
Wild Tiger
superrag and mikiesdios

[Scott-Land]

sjnap won a grand total of 34 games ( 27% win ratio ) according to those options. not sure how that qualifies as a top 5 player under those options. you guys need to research a little bit more before "throwing" names up there.

Scott-Land= won 23% of his games with those options.
won 29% of his games when you include freestyle with his speed hack

JoeCoolFrog= a big whooping 23%


im sure you will find alot of players with better win %'s than those that are listed

Jr- as a team player it's probably difficult for you to understand or how to recognize a great Seq Esc player. There are a lot, I mean a lot of factors that goes into what I deem to be the best. It doesn't revolve around win percentages- as a lot of the players will tell you that there are an equal amount of factors that result in a win or a loss in those game settings.

I can only give you my opinion of board recognition, blocks, hangings ( or lack of), tactics, leads, when to isolate, card strategies etc. There so many very little nuances to the game that some players would never see or distinguish from a another player. It takes a great player to see those types of plays.

Like of stated before, some players I just haven't had the opportunity to play enough to see their worth. Jr- this isn't written in stone. No ones forcing you to accept these players opinions of who the top 5 are. I don't see how your opinion is valid when we're discussing a game type you rarely play. I'm sure once someone lists the top 5 triples team/players, this would be more of your expertise.

[Blitzaholic]

If I did top 5 teammates and in no order I would say the best ever I have teamed with MANY times in all diversity, playing styles and maps is:

david wain, big whiskey, osujacket, nephilim, dividedbyzero, thota


again my top 5 all around skilled and balanced and gr8 at all, need more time sorry, just do!

[Georgerx7di]

I would like to add something to what scott said. I would rather have a 22% win rating in 6 player against good players than 25% against average or bad players. I don't know how you can account skill of opponents unless your talking about people whom you've actually played. That's the whole point of this thread, it's not just going on map rank and looking at numbers, it's about first hand experience with players.

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

top 5 sequential doubles in no particular order

DW
Blitz
BW
Wild Tiger
superrag and mikiesdios

take turns for one another

[Paddy The Cat]

top 5 singles escalating, in paddy's eyes...

1 Comic Boy-he was born with a risk board in his hands, a cash of 50 in his pocket, too good

2 Joecoolfrog-also real good, but i havent played with him quite enough to know if he is flawless or almost flawless

3 Mhennigan-plays a lot of freestyle... but make no mistake, hes a good seq player too.. i dont remember EVER questioning one of his moves.

4 Scott-Land-manages to look at the board from every players perspective, and i have learned much of what i know from him, as he points out the right move, instead of just saying, 'you suck' and then stomping off in a fit of rage

5 Sjnap-does it from the textbook, and always has a shot

many others like poo, steve066 rl, maniac are very good as well, but i havent played with them enough to know.... or they are almost there, but not quite

[Blitzaholic]

top 5 sequential doubles in no particular order

DW
Blitz
BW
Wild Tiger
superrag and mikiesdios

take turns for one another

are you saying super and mikies are multi?

[poo-maker]

sjnap won a grand total of 34 games ( 27% win ratio ) according to those options. not sure how that qualifies as a top 5 player under those options. you guys need to research a little bit more before "throwing" names up there.

Scott-Land= won 23% of his games with those options.
won 29% of his games when you include freestyle with his speed hack

JoeCoolFrog= a big whooping 23%

Maniacmath= 26% ( so far the highest )

comic boy= 22%

how many of these wins were on the map classic? Almost all of them. If we are the best, than why are we a 1 map wonder?

im sure you will find alot of players with better win %'s than those that are listed. those players will range from 30-40% win ratios with those options.

Did you search under the settings, 6 player, seq, esc, no fog, private? If so, those percentages are actually quite good. The average winning percentage with those settings is 16.66% . Bear in mind that these are highly competitive games where people who don't know how to play well aren't invited to. In my opinion, anything over 20% with those settings (assuming that there are relatively high ranked players involved) shows that you know what you're doing and are very capabable at those settings.

Now, for my top 5

1) Scott-Land
2) Robinette
3) Zawbanjito
4) RL_Orange
5)Maniacmath17

[JustB]

You know what counts guys: being number one. Haven't you all seen the Olympics.