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Ranks per Category

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:33 am
by THE ARMY
When i look at the many top ranks i see those that specialize in usually 1 or 2 types of game modes. Which means they may be the best at that game setting but aren't really showing they can win in any other style game. I am proposing that the ranks should be split into several different divisions. Maybe we can have a "Freestyle" division where the people in that category play mostly freestyle. Or maybe a "Specialized Map" category where people play on one type of map they like.

For an example I play many types of games so I would go under "Basic" or something.

IDK anyone who likes this idea and has a comment to make or suggestion please say so.

Re: Ranks per Category

PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:37 am
by freeroll84
1. take it to suggs n buggs.
2. do you have any idea how hard that would be to design?
3. i'm pretty sure its already been suggested but (go to number 2.)
4. so what if they're the best at one type... you probably have your specialty so stick to it and be happy

Re: Ranks per Category

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:03 am
by MajorRT
THE ARMY wrote:When i look at the many top ranks i see those that specialize in usually 1 or 2 types of game modes. Which means they may be the best at that game setting but aren't really showing they can win in any other style game. I am proposing that the ranks should be split into several different divisions. Maybe we can have a "Freestyle" division where the people in that category play mostly freestyle. Or maybe a "Specialized Map" category where people play on one type of map they like.

For an example I play many types of games so I would go under "Basic" or something.

IDK anyone who likes this idea and has a comment to make or suggestion please say so.


Good Idea... because the scoreboard now is like comparing apples to oranges, or homerun leaders to triples leaders...but change at CC is slow, and I don't think this in the near future :(

Re: Ranks per Category

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:26 am
by e_i_pi
freeroll84 wrote:1. take it to suggs n buggs.
2. do you have any idea how hard that would be to design?
3. i'm pretty sure its already been suggested but (go to number 2.)
4. so what if they're the best at one type... you probably have your specialty so stick to it and be happy

Correct, I suggested it (probably others too), and was told it was already available in Map Rank. Unfortunately Map Rank no longer works properly due to changes in the log files for games, but I believe there's talk of this being rectified. Don't ["quote"] me on that though hehe

Re: Ranks per Category

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:37 am
by Army of Achilles
the problem with map rank is that it doesn't take into account the points lost on other game types.

I haven't done the math but I suck at Freestyle games and I must have negative points. If I drop 500 points screwing around playing freestyle then I win more points than I should as my points go back up when I'm playing sequential

this might explain part of the reason people have been dumping points as their map rank looks good on the settings that they use to win back their points and they aren't concerned about their map rank on the maps and/or settings that they give away their points

Re: Ranks per Category

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:20 am
by chipv
e_i_pi wrote:
freeroll84 wrote:1. take it to suggs n buggs.
2. do you have any idea how hard that would be to design?
3. i'm pretty sure its already been suggested but (go to number 2.)
4. so what if they're the best at one type... you probably have your specialty so stick to it and be happy

Correct, I suggested it (probably others too), and was told it was already available in Map Rank. Unfortunately Map Rank no longer works properly due to changes in the log files for games, but I believe there's talk of this being rectified. Don't ["quote"] me on that though hehe


There is a new working version of Map Rank called Map Rank GL which was announced well before your post.
Link: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=64678

Independent scores per category is most certainly not in any script.

I posted in your suggestion already:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=60973#p1544786

Army Of Achilles is spot on with comments.

Re: Ranks per Category

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 10:46 am
by PLAYER57832
THE ARMY wrote:When i look at the many top ranks i see those that specialize in usually 1 or 2 types of game modes. Which means they may be the best at that game setting but aren't really showing they can win in any other style game. I am proposing that the ranks should be split into several different divisions. Maybe we can have a "Freestyle" division where the people in that category play mostly freestyle. Or maybe a "Specialized Map" category where people play on one type of map they like.

For an example I play many types of games so I would go under "Basic" or something.

IDK anyone who likes this idea and has a comment to make or suggestion please say so.


I do like this idea and suspect some form of it will be implemented ... eventually.

BUT, just to take those examples. If you have freestyle and sequential winners for singles, quads, triples, doubles ... you already have 8 awards. If you add in speed or fog ... double that. This is even without picking out awards for individual maps.

It is just too many awards.

Re: Ranks per Category

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:12 pm
by Scott-Land
THE ARMY wrote:When i look at the many top ranks i see those that specialize in usually 1 or 2 types of game modes. Which means they may be the best at that game setting but aren't really showing they can win in any other style game. I am proposing that the ranks should be split into several different divisions. Maybe we can have a "Freestyle" division where the people in that category play mostly freestyle. Or maybe a "Specialized Map" category where people play on one type of map they like.

For an example I play many types of games so I would go under "Basic" or something.

IDK anyone who likes this idea and has a comment to make or suggestion please say so.


Without sounding arrogant, this idea would only suffice for players that have a shot at being at the top. Maybe for 40 or so players i.e. Seul, Comic, Blitz, Wain, Neph etc.

To be brutally honest and no disrespect intended but what difference does it make if you're in the 5000 slot at the current scoreboard or 4000 with the specialized one?