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Assassin Deadbeat Question [Answered]

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:55 pm
by Shatners Bassoon
Yes,i know there's probably a really obvious answer to this but i don't know what it is.

I just finished an 8 player freestyle assassin game in which a question mark was kicked out for missing too many turns,now he wasn't my target but he must have been somebodies.......


So my question is why didn't that player win?


....and as they didn't win does that mean that somebody was now going to be targeted by 2 people?



Hope that makes sense,i just can't get my head around it :oops:

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:17 pm
by lozzini
the same as in a terminater game, the player gets kicks, but there armies are still there but need to be killed to be completely eliminater

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:34 pm
by Shatners Bassoon
ahhh thank you,that makes sense.

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:20 pm
by ode to veeck
that said it is pretty screwed up when folks deadbeat an assassin game

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:39 pm
by Shatners Bassoon
ode to veeck wrote:that said it is pretty screwed up when folks deadbeat an assassin game

it was a question mark........

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:47 pm
by PepperJack
I don't think I see the actual answer so far.

If someone deadbeats in an assassin game, whoever was going after them gets their target.

So....A is going after B, B is going after C

B deadbeats, A is now going after C

A->B->C to A->C

It works circularly so that everyone always has their own target.

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:21 pm
by Ditocoaf
lozzini wrote:the same as in a terminater game, the player gets kicks, but there armies are still there but need to be killed to be completely eliminater

Actually, I think that's wrong, lozzini. PepperJack gave the right answer: If your target deadbeats, then you have to go after their target.

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:29 am
by hammocksleeper
PepperJack wrote:I don't think I see the actual answer so far.

If someone deadbeats in an assassin game, whoever was going after them gets their target.

So....A is going after B, B is going after C

B deadbeats, A is now going after C

A->B->C to A->C

It works circularly so that everyone always has their own target.


OK so what if in a 6player assassins game, the first 5 players all deadbeat. Does player 6 win? He never actually assassinated anyone.

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:36 am
by Ditocoaf
hammocksleeper wrote:
PepperJack wrote:I don't think I see the actual answer so far.

If someone deadbeats in an assassin game, whoever was going after them gets their target.

So....A is going after B, B is going after C

B deadbeats, A is now going after C

A->B->C to A->C

It works circularly so that everyone always has their own target.


OK so what if in a 6player assassins game, the first 5 players all deadbeat. Does player 6 win? He never actually assassinated anyone.

Yep. If everyone but you deadbeats, you win by default, regardless of game type.

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:50 am
by Shatners Bassoon
hmmmm,so the question still hasn't been answered satisfactorily.

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:45 pm
by Ditocoaf
Shatners Bassoon wrote:hmmmm,so the question still hasn't been answered satisfactorily.

Yes, it has. Let me attempt to re-explain:

Someone had that question mark as their target; let's call that person "A". That question mark had someone else as their target, we'll call that person "B."

So, before "?" deadbeated, "A" was going for "?" who was going for "B." So "?" deadbeated. You're asking why "A" didn't win. "A" didn't win because it would be unfair for someone to win assassin because of a deadbeat, so the game continues. Instead, "A" gets a new target. "A"s new target is now "B." Because "B" no longer has anyone targeting them.

Get it now?

X-->A-->?-->B-->Y
? deadbeats, so now
X-->A-->B-->Y

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:06 pm
by lozzini
Ditocoaf wrote:
lozzini wrote:the same as in a terminater game, the player gets kicks, but there armies are still there but need to be killed to be completely eliminater

Actually, I think that's wrong, lozzini. PepperJack gave the right answer: If your target deadbeats, then you have to go after their target.



o crap... my mistake

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:20 pm
by White Moose
Wanted to come in and make it easier to understand..

If your target in a assassin game deadbeats. Then you will get the deadbeats target instead.

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:36 pm
by Shatners Bassoon
White Moose wrote:Wanted to come in and make it easier to understand..

If your target in a assassin game deadbeats. Then you will get the deadbeats target instead.



So there will be 2 people attacking 1 target?

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:37 pm
by Shatners Bassoon
Shatners Bassoon wrote:
White Moose wrote:Wanted to come in and make it easier to understand..

If your target in a assassin game deadbeats. Then you will get the deadbeats target instead.



So there will be 2 people attacking 1 target?




lol.....scrub that,i'm an idiot.....i've got you now,cheers!

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:39 pm
by White Moose
Shatners Bassoon wrote:
Shatners Bassoon wrote:
White Moose wrote:Wanted to come in and make it easier to understand..

If your target in a assassin game deadbeats. Then you will get the deadbeats target instead.



So there will be 2 people attacking 1 target?




lol.....scrub that,i'm an idiot.....i've got you now,cheers!


Good that you figured it out, glad to help :)

Re: Assassin Deadbeat Question

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:08 pm
by HardAttack
Someone told that deadbeat's army stays there but if my memo is working right then i will say no to this...In terminator that is true but in assasin games, deadbeat's army turns out to be naturals....
What happens to the player whose target gets deadbeat. Easy the player gets new target which was the target of the deadbeat one. There is not a circumstance to happen in which two player have 1 target. There is a cirle mechanism, and everyone is set to be target to the player who stands at the couter clock wise neighboorhood. If one gets deadbeat, then cirle gets not very affected from it, simply the one who gets deadbeat drops down and your new target becomes the one who stands in the 2nd order neihgboorhood of yourself in the counterclockwise direction...
(counterclockwise or clockwise x no matter which one is)
I hope this helps, feel free to ask any further points which you find them to be still unclear to you :)

Deadbeat happens within 3 consequetive untaken turns, and in most cases a player is unable to kill his opponent in 3 turns...So it is a good idea to be cautious and to keep it in mind that your target might go deadbeat then better dont fully attack to your target in the very first turn. Dont run out your whole power...If he deadbeats before you finish him off, then you will have his target instead him and sadly your new target will be powerfull and wellgrown just because he was the deadbeat's target and because deadbeat didnt take turn and didnt attack to him.... This is a sad and weak point that we all confronted sometimes...Bothers a bit...