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Postby porkenbeans on Mon Dec 22, 2008 5:42 pm

1.) Gen. Thomas Paine

2.) GEN. Seulessliathan

3.) GEN. Fruitcake

4.) GEN. Gwaahjo

5.) GEN. timmy

6.) BRIG. joecoolfrog

7.) BRIG. merz

8.) BRIG. jarrett155

9.) BRIG. comic boy

10.) BRIG. mikiesdios

11.) BRIG. forefall



These are the top 11 players that maintain an EQ. status.
There seems to be some misunderstanding about the MAP RANK status.
These are not the players with the highest M.R. They are the players on the top of the leaderboard that maintain an E.Q. There are others on the top can easily raise their status to E.Q.
For the serious Noob Farmers, ...not that easy.
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Postby The Neon Peon on Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:54 pm

Well done... how long did you spend on this?

I have always wanted to ask... you specialize, which is a sub-group of farming, so why do you keep on posting stuff like this? Sorry for going a little off topic with this.
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Postby bridge2far on Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:17 pm

man, just give it a rest.

If everyone played for EQ the whole system would be mest.

you'd have chefs at the top of the scoreboard, and if you really planned on becoming #1 on an equalarian scoreboard, like.. ffs seriously think about it.
You wouldn't be starting any games, you'd just be waiting for someone with the exact same rank to start a game and then join it.

it would just be an ugly system and nobody will agree with having it, so please, give your dumb logic rants a rest.
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Postby porkenbeans on Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:31 pm

bridge2far wrote:man, just give it a rest.

If everyone played for EQ the whole system would be mest.

you'd have chefs at the top of the scoreboard, and if you really planned on becoming #1 on an equalarian scoreboard, like.. ffs seriously think about it.
You wouldn't be starting any games, you'd just be waiting for someone with the exact same rank to start a game and then join it.

it would just be an ugly system and nobody will agree with having it, so please, give your dumb logic rants a rest.
You should have no problem bringing your score up to Eq. status.
Your stats are impressive. You have played on more boards than anyone I've seen so far.
You will notice that you have a lot of maps that only have 1 or 2 games played. But because your opponents were low rankers, you have received a noob farmer or point hoarder for that map. All you need do, is play a couple of games on those maps with high rankers, and win or loose, you win. As the rank for that map will be raised. But to the serious Noob Farmers, this will prove much more difficult, because they have played Most of their games against noobs. For them it would be easier to start from scratch, as they have dug to deep a hole.
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Postby bridge2far on Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:56 pm

ugh. porky, you really just don't think do you.

yes, this new scoreboard may fck it all up for noob farmers, BUT it will also fck it up for 90% of all CC'ers.

so if i wanted to get to the highest score and highest relative rank i could i would have to solely play high ranked players, correct? so if i start a game and even 2 chefs join, ohh crap, there goes my relative rank for that game...
so then i would start searching for games that are par with my rank so as to achieve a better relative rank..
then what happens? if x amount of people start doing the exact same thing because they want to gain a higher place on the scoreboard all you have is people searching for games of the same relative rank and this site becomes just a bunch of snobs..
it would end up becoming a problem worse than farming is now because if your a chef, your screwed and will only be able to play other chefs... which for most of them joining those games with high rankers and seeing there ass get cooked is there enjoyment.

go get some sound understanding, some actual logic, and some real skill... then come back and re think this whole idea.

ps
no, i really don't give 2 shyts about my relative rank and all that bs..
but also i think farmers that take it to an extreme, such as max, are no longer tolerable on this site.
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Postby THE ARMY on Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:01 pm

what is EQ?
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Postby porkenbeans on Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:29 pm

The Neon Peon wrote:Well done... how long did you spend on this?

I have always wanted to ask... you specialize, which is a sub-group of farming, so why do you keep on posting stuff like this? Sorry for going a little off topic with this.
About 10 minutes.
I have played 1127 games on 40 different maps. I have 3 maps with 100 or more games.
539 Doodle games, the simplest game here.
300 Chicago games, a fairly complicated game.
127 Classic games, the classic game.
161 Games, on 37 various maps.

3/4 of my games are played on my 3 favorite maps. This is not out of the ordinary.
You may say that this is specializing, Well everybody must be specialists, because most everybody has these same type of stats. Besides, there is nothing wrong if people play any map a lot and get good at it, THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. Your whole "sub farming group" premise, is flawed to the core.
"Farming" is specifically attributed to those that go after noobs.
Your logic and reasoning on this is just NOT right.

If you think that calling good players "farmers", is going to fool anyone...
Well lets just say, "Go ahead if it makes you feel better".
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Postby porkenbeans on Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:59 pm

bridge2far wrote:ugh. porky, you really just don't think do you.

yes, this new scoreboard may fck it all up for noob farmers, BUT it will also fck it up for 90% of all CC'ers.

so if i wanted to get to the highest score and highest relative rank i could i would have to solely play high ranked players, correct? so if i start a game and even 2 chefs join, ohh crap, there goes my relative rank for that game...
so then i would start searching for games that are par with my rank so as to achieve a better relative rank..
then what happens? if x amount of people start doing the exact same thing because they want to gain a higher place on the scoreboard all you have is people searching for games of the same relative rank and this site becomes just a bunch of snobs..
it would end up becoming a problem worse than farming is now because if your a chef, your screwed and will only be able to play other chefs... which for most of them joining those games with high rankers and seeing there ass get cooked is there enjoyment.

go get some sound understanding, some actual logic, and some real skill... then come back and re think this whole idea.

ps
no, i really don't give 2 shyts about my relative rank and all that bs..
but also i think farmers that take it to an extreme, such as max, are no longer tolerable on this site.
Calm down my brother. Please allow me to explain something to you.
The map rank is not your rank. You do not have to have the highest M.R. You only have to maintain an EQ. status. Who has the highest M.R. does not matter whatsoever in this respect. MAP RANK is only a tool to show if a player is Noob farming or not. Non farmers will have no problem maintaining an E.Q. status. I would be happy to show you just how easy it would be for you to raise your M.R. to E.Q. I will tell you exactly which maps that you need to play to do this. For you it will take only a couple of games against high rankers on these maps.This will be achieved if you win or loose those games.
By this time next week you could be an EQUILATARIAN. and fully deserving of your rank of General.
Give me a pm if you are interested. I have been known to be a friendly and helpful person, and I would be glad to help. I could also show you how to install M.R. and how to use it properly.
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Postby porkenbeans on Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:01 pm

THE ARMY wrote:what is EQ?
YOU ARE. :D
GO TO - viewtopic.php?f=59&t=64678
If you need more help, let me know. 8-)
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Postby Aradhus on Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:36 pm

porkenbeans wrote: Calm down my brother. Please allow me to explain something to you.
The map rank is not your rank. You do not have to have the highest M.R. You only have to maintain an EQ. status. Who has the highest M.R. does not matter whatsoever in this respect. MAP RANK is only a tool to show if a player is Noob farming or not. Non farmers will have no problem maintaining an E.Q. status.


That's a load of bullshit. For one thing you can't control who joins public games. My mr is point hoarder and I don't farm. I look for public games with the highest ranked players in them.
porkenbeans wrote:3/4 of my games are played on my 3 favorite maps. This is not out of the ordinary.
You may say that this is specializing, Well everybody must be specialists, because most everybody has these same type of stats. Besides, there is nothing wrong if people play any map a lot and get good at it, THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. Your whole "sub farming group" premise, is flawed to the core.
"Farming" is specifically attributed to those that go after noobs.
Your logic and reasoning on this is just NOT right.


This is also bullshit, if you actually offered some information instead of throwing out blanket claims with nothing to back it up. Everybody doesn't 'specialise'. I try to play as many different maps as I can, and playing the same map, same setting, etc, might not be farming per se, buts its a white knuckle, edge of the, fingertipped, borderline step pretty damn close. It also gives a skewed impression of how good a CC player is when they've played 2000 games and have like 4000 points.

But they only know how to play on three maps.

Statistics are like assholes. Shit comes out, dick goes in.
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Postby porkenbeans on Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:12 am

Aradhus wrote:
porkenbeans wrote: Calm down my brother. Please allow me to explain something to you.
The map rank is not your rank. You do not have to have the highest M.R. You only have to maintain an EQ. status. Who has the highest M.R. does not matter whatsoever in this respect. MAP RANK is only a tool to show if a player is Noob farming or not. Non farmers will have no problem maintaining an E.Q. status.


That's a load of bullshit. For one thing you can't control who joins public games. My mr is point hoarder and I don't farm. I look for public games with the highest ranked players in them.
porkenbeans wrote:3/4 of my games are played on my 3 favorite maps. This is not out of the ordinary.
You may say that this is specializing, Well everybody must be specialists, because most everybody has these same type of stats. Besides, there is nothing wrong if people play any map a lot and get good at it, THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. Your whole "sub farming group" premise, is flawed to the core.
"Farming" is specifically attributed to those that go after noobs.
Your logic and reasoning on this is just NOT right.


This is also bullshit, if you actually offered some information instead of throwing out blanket claims with nothing to back it up. Everybody doesn't 'specialise'. I try to play as many different maps as I can, and playing the same map, same setting, etc, might not be farming per se, buts its a white knuckle, edge of the, fingertipped, borderline step pretty damn close. It also gives a skewed impression of how good a CC player is when they've played 2000 games and have like 4000 points.

But they only know how to play on three maps.

Statistics are like assholes. Shit comes out, dick goes in.
I start most of my public games too, but am E.Q. I have played 40 maps.
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Postby FabledIntegral on Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:27 am

You're missing the point. Equalitarian isn't any more respectable to half the people on this site. It merely shows you play the same pool of players over an over again.
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Postby Mr Changsha on Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:44 am

porkenbeans wrote:
bridge2far wrote:ugh. porky, you really just don't think do you.

yes, this new scoreboard may fck it all up for noob farmers, BUT it will also fck it up for 90% of all CC'ers.

so if i wanted to get to the highest score and highest relative rank i could i would have to solely play high ranked players, correct? so if i start a game and even 2 chefs join, ohh crap, there goes my relative rank for that game...
so then i would start searching for games that are par with my rank so as to achieve a better relative rank..
then what happens? if x amount of people start doing the exact same thing because they want to gain a higher place on the scoreboard all you have is people searching for games of the same relative rank and this site becomes just a bunch of snobs..
it would end up becoming a problem worse than farming is now because if your a chef, your screwed and will only be able to play other chefs... which for most of them joining those games with high rankers and seeing there ass get cooked is there enjoyment.

go get some sound understanding, some actual logic, and some real skill... then come back and re think this whole idea.

ps
no, i really don't give 2 shyts about my relative rank and all that bs..
but also i think farmers that take it to an extreme, such as max, are no longer tolerable on this site.
Calm down my brother. Please allow me to explain something to you.
The map rank is not your rank. You do not have to have the highest M.R. You only have to maintain an EQ. status. Who has the highest M.R. does not matter whatsoever in this respect. MAP RANK is only a tool to show if a player is Noob farming or not. Non farmers will have no problem maintaining an E.Q. status. I would be happy to show you just how easy it would be for you to raise your M.R. to E.Q. I will tell you exactly which maps that you need to play to do this. For you it will take only a couple of games against high rankers on these maps.This will be achieved if you win or loose those games.
By this time next week you could be an EQUILATARIAN. and fully deserving of your rank of General.Give me a pm if you are interested. I have been known to be a friendly and helpful person, and I would be glad to help. I could also show you how to install M.R. and how to use it properly.


I bolded the bit I found most interesting..

I am beginning to believe that porkenbeans is a spoof. There is simply NO WAY an otherwise rational person could believe what he has been writing here for the last few days. He must be a spoof.
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Postby porkenbeans on Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:45 am

FabledIntegral wrote:You're missing the point. Equalitarian isn't any more respectable to half the people on this site. It merely shows you play the same pool of players over an over again.
Unique defeats are also include with the other various stats at M.R.
You are bright enough to figure CC out, and earn a high rank. You know very well that a persons rank does not tell the whole story. All I am trying to say is, If you want to find out the true story you need to know the facts. These facts are waiting for you at MAP RANK. It is up to you if you want to try and learn how to use it. Or you can just keep spouting off and condemning the facts. You only look the fool, my friend. Much like the dolts that called for Columbus's head, because he said the world was round. :lol:
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Postby bridge2far on Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:50 am

Mr Changsha wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
bridge2far wrote:ugh. porky, you really just don't think do you.

yes, this new scoreboard may fck it all up for noob farmers, BUT it will also fck it up for 90% of all CC'ers.

so if i wanted to get to the highest score and highest relative rank i could i would have to solely play high ranked players, correct? so if i start a game and even 2 chefs join, ohh crap, there goes my relative rank for that game...
so then i would start searching for games that are par with my rank so as to achieve a better relative rank..
then what happens? if x amount of people start doing the exact same thing because they want to gain a higher place on the scoreboard all you have is people searching for games of the same relative rank and this site becomes just a bunch of snobs..
it would end up becoming a problem worse than farming is now because if your a chef, your screwed and will only be able to play other chefs... which for most of them joining those games with high rankers and seeing there ass get cooked is there enjoyment.

go get some sound understanding, some actual logic, and some real skill... then come back and re think this whole idea.

ps
no, i really don't give 2 shyts about my relative rank and all that bs..
but also i think farmers that take it to an extreme, such as max, are no longer tolerable on this site.
Calm down my brother. Please allow me to explain something to you.
The map rank is not your rank. You do not have to have the highest M.R. You only have to maintain an EQ. status. Who has the highest M.R. does not matter whatsoever in this respect. MAP RANK is only a tool to show if a player is Noob farming or not. Non farmers will have no problem maintaining an E.Q. status. I would be happy to show you just how easy it would be for you to raise your M.R. to E.Q. I will tell you exactly which maps that you need to play to do this. For you it will take only a couple of games against high rankers on these maps.This will be achieved if you win or loose those games.
By this time next week you could be an EQUILATARIAN. and fully deserving of your rank of General.Give me a pm if you are interested. I have been known to be a friendly and helpful person, and I would be glad to help. I could also show you how to install M.R. and how to use it properly.


I bolded the bit I found most interesting..

I am beginning to believe that porkenbeans is a spoof. There is simply NO WAY an otherwise rational person could believe what he has been writing here for the last few days. He must be a spoof.


Also referring to the bolded part...
Sounds as if your recruiting for some sort of cult.
by any chance, are you a jehovahs witness?
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Postby Mr Changsha on Tue Dec 23, 2008 1:53 am

bridge2far wrote:
Mr Changsha wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
bridge2far wrote:ugh. porky, you really just don't think do you.

yes, this new scoreboard may fck it all up for noob farmers, BUT it will also fck it up for 90% of all CC'ers.

so if i wanted to get to the highest score and highest relative rank i could i would have to solely play high ranked players, correct? so if i start a game and even 2 chefs join, ohh crap, there goes my relative rank for that game...
so then i would start searching for games that are par with my rank so as to achieve a better relative rank..
then what happens? if x amount of people start doing the exact same thing because they want to gain a higher place on the scoreboard all you have is people searching for games of the same relative rank and this site becomes just a bunch of snobs..
it would end up becoming a problem worse than farming is now because if your a chef, your screwed and will only be able to play other chefs... which for most of them joining those games with high rankers and seeing there ass get cooked is there enjoyment.

go get some sound understanding, some actual logic, and some real skill... then come back and re think this whole idea.

ps
no, i really don't give 2 shyts about my relative rank and all that bs..
but also i think farmers that take it to an extreme, such as max, are no longer tolerable on this site.
Calm down my brother. Please allow me to explain something to you.
The map rank is not your rank. You do not have to have the highest M.R. You only have to maintain an EQ. status. Who has the highest M.R. does not matter whatsoever in this respect. MAP RANK is only a tool to show if a player is Noob farming or not. Non farmers will have no problem maintaining an E.Q. status. I would be happy to show you just how easy it would be for you to raise your M.R. to E.Q. I will tell you exactly which maps that you need to play to do this. For you it will take only a couple of games against high rankers on these maps.This will be achieved if you win or loose those games.
By this time next week you could be an EQUILATARIAN. and fully deserving of your rank of General.Give me a pm if you are interested. I have been known to be a friendly and helpful person, and I would be glad to help. I could also show you how to install M.R. and how to use it properly.


I bolded the bit I found most interesting..

I am beginning to believe that porkenbeans is a spoof. There is simply NO WAY an otherwise rational person could believe what he has been writing here for the last few days. He must be a spoof.


Also referring to the bolded part...
Sounds as if your recruiting for some sort of cult.
by any chance, are you a jehovahs witness?


I've got it!

Porkenbeans is a spoof jehovahs witness!

Glad we've got that sorted out now...
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Postby Aradhus on Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:11 am

porkenbeans wrote:
Aradhus wrote:
porkenbeans wrote: Calm down my brother. Please allow me to explain something to you.
The map rank is not your rank. You do not have to have the highest M.R. You only have to maintain an EQ. status. Who has the highest M.R. does not matter whatsoever in this respect. MAP RANK is only a tool to show if a player is Noob farming or not. Non farmers will have no problem maintaining an E.Q. status.


That's a load of bullshit. For one thing you can't control who joins public games. My mr is point hoarder and I don't farm. I look for public games with the highest ranked players in them.
porkenbeans wrote:3/4 of my games are played on my 3 favorite maps. This is not out of the ordinary.
You may say that this is specializing, Well everybody must be specialists, because most everybody has these same type of stats. Besides, there is nothing wrong if people play any map a lot and get good at it, THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. Your whole "sub farming group" premise, is flawed to the core.
"Farming" is specifically attributed to those that go after noobs.
Your logic and reasoning on this is just NOT right.


This is also bullshit, if you actually offered some information instead of throwing out blanket claims with nothing to back it up. Everybody doesn't 'specialise'. I try to play as many different maps as I can, and playing the same map, same setting, etc, might not be farming per se, buts its a white knuckle, edge of the, fingertipped, borderline step pretty damn close. It also gives a skewed impression of how good a CC player is when they've played 2000 games and have like 4000 points.

But they only know how to play on three maps.

Statistics are like assholes. Shit comes out, dick goes in.
I start most of my public games too, but am E.Q. I have played 40 maps.


Almost all of your games are 1v1s.. almost as in like 1000 out of 1100...

Most of my games are 8 players..
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Postby porkenbeans on Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:57 pm

Aradhus wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
Aradhus wrote:
porkenbeans wrote: Calm down my brother. Please allow me to explain something to you.
The map rank is not your rank. You do not have to have the highest M.R. You only have to maintain an EQ. status. Who has the highest M.R. does not matter whatsoever in this respect. MAP RANK is only a tool to show if a player is Noob farming or not. Non farmers will have no problem maintaining an E.Q. status.


That's a load of bullshit. For one thing you can't control who joins public games. My mr is point hoarder and I don't farm. I look for public games with the highest ranked players in them.
porkenbeans wrote:3/4 of my games are played on my 3 favorite maps. This is not out of the ordinary.
You may say that this is specializing, Well everybody must be specialists, because most everybody has these same type of stats. Besides, there is nothing wrong if people play any map a lot and get good at it, THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT. Your whole "sub farming group" premise, is flawed to the core.
"Farming" is specifically attributed to those that go after noobs.
Your logic and reasoning on this is just NOT right.


This is also bullshit, if you actually offered some information instead of throwing out blanket claims with nothing to back it up. Everybody doesn't 'specialise'. I try to play as many different maps as I can, and playing the same map, same setting, etc, might not be farming per se, buts its a white knuckle, edge of the, fingertipped, borderline step pretty damn close. It also gives a skewed impression of how good a CC player is when they've played 2000 games and have like 4000 points.

But they only know how to play on three maps.

Statistics are like assholes. Shit comes out, dick goes in.
I start most of my public games too, but am E.Q. I have played 40 maps.


Almost all of your games are 1v1s.. almost as in like 1000 out of 1100...

Most of my games are 8 players..
Yes, it used to be the other way around. I actually like multi-player games the best. Then one day I caught A multi, scum, cheater.
I had been stuck at sarge for a prolonged period at the time. And I thought that maybe there were games that I had been cheated, and didnt even know. So I decided to test my suspicions. I only entered or started games that could not be rigged. You cant multi in a 1V1, so most of my games became that type. Guess what friend, My rank shot up. I was being promoted every 6 or 7 games. My rank has steadily gone up every sense then. I missed the big multi-player games though. So, I decided to try and find a way to bring them back into my game.
I formed the CLEAN GROUP. It was not without its set backs, as the very first week a member was caught with a multi, adamk89. It has been a couple of months now, and we have close to 75 members. I am glad to have the big game back again.
Alas, I am weary though of arguing with you un-skilled Farmers.
You are not here to thoughtfully discuss anything. You are simply here to shout down anything that would hinder your rape of the Noob. And I am not going to give this as much time, as I have been lately. Nothing but Juvenalistic sparing is going on anyway. The same lame and discredited claims just follow on to the next thread. I have other things that I would rather be doing.
Like getting with chip, and doing what I can to further the development of MAP RANK. FYI, I am sure that M.R. will be used by more and more players. So, you guys may want to think of bringing on some new posters. I predict, that, your attempt at dominating the forums, ...is going to be getting, a little more difficult. ;) 8-)
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Postby Aradhus on Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:49 pm

porkenbeans wrote:Yes, it used to be the other way around. I actually like multi-player games the best. Then one day I caught A multi, scum, cheater.
I had been stuck at sarge for a prolonged period at the time. And I thought that maybe there were games that I had been cheated, and didnt even know. So I decided to test my suspicions. I only entered or started games that could not be rigged. You cant multi in a 1V1, so most of my games became that type. Guess what friend, My rank shot up. I was being promoted every 6 or 7 games. My rank has steadily gone up every sense then. I missed the big multi-player games though. So, I decided to try and find a way to bring them back into my game.
I formed the CLEAN GROUP. It was not without its set backs, as the very first week a member was caught with a multi, adamk89. It has been a couple of months now, and we have close to 75 members. I am glad to have the big game back again.
Alas, I am weary though of arguing with you un-skilled Farmers.
You are not here to thoughtfully discuss anything. You are simply here to shout down anything that would hinder your rape of the Noob. And I am not going to give this as much time, as I have been lately. Nothing but Juvenalistic sparing is going on anyway. The same lame and discredited claims just follow on to the next thread. I have other things that I would rather be doing.
Like getting with chip, and doing what I can to further the development of MAP RANK. FYI, I am sure that M.R. will be used by more and more players. So, you guys may want to think of bringing on some new posters. I predict, that, your attempt at dominating the forums, ...is going to be getting, a little more difficult. ;) 8-)


I'm not a farmer.. Which you would know..if you read my posts.. in this topic, that you've posted in a half dozen times.. responding to my posts.. which you would have to read.. and understand..for your reponses to make sense.. oh

By the way, playing the same three maps, in 1v1s, is pretty close to being a good definition of "unskilled".
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Postby porkenbeans on Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:55 pm

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porkenbeans wrote:Yes, it used to be the other way around. I actually like multi-player games the best. Then one day I caught A multi, scum, cheater.
I had been stuck at sarge for a prolonged period at the time. And I thought that maybe there were games that I had been cheated, and didnt even know. So I decided to test my suspicions. I only entered or started games that could not be rigged. You cant multi in a 1V1, so most of my games became that type. Guess what friend, My rank shot up. I was being promoted every 6 or 7 games. My rank has steadily gone up every sense then. I missed the big multi-player games though. So, I decided to try and find a way to bring them back into my game.
I formed the CLEAN GROUP. It was not without its set backs, as the very first week a member was caught with a multi, adamk89. It has been a couple of months now, and we have close to 75 members. I am glad to have the big game back again.
Alas, I am weary though of arguing with you un-skilled Farmers.
You are not here to thoughtfully discuss anything. You are simply here to shout down anything that would hinder your rape of the Noob. And I am not going to give this as much time, as I have been lately. Nothing but Juvenalistic sparing is going on anyway. The same lame and discredited claims just follow on to the next thread. I have other things that I would rather be doing.
Like getting with chip, and doing what I can to further the development of MAP RANK. FYI, I am sure that M.R. will be used by more and more players. So, you guys may want to think of bringing on some new posters. I predict, that, your attempt at dominating the forums, ...is going to be getting, a little more difficult. ;) 8-)


I'm not a farmer.. Which you would know..if you read my posts.. in this topic, that you've posted in a half dozen times.. responding to my posts.. which you would have to read.. and understand..for your reponses to make sense.. oh

By the way, playing the same three maps, in 1v1s, is pretty close to being a good definition of "unskilled".
You have played 1/3 of all your games on 3 maps.
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Postby Aradhus on Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:47 pm

porkenbeans wrote:You have played 1/3 of all your games on 3 maps.


See this is the sort of thing I'm talking about when I say you put nothing in, and out of it you create trash. There's no real information involved, when you insert nothing into a subjective predisosed thought processs/machine to create statistics or "information", what comes out is information about the thought process/machine itself, not the original "nothing" data.

I've only completed 340 games and 80 of those were classic. Remove classic and you can't say that out of all the games on the remaining 74 maps that I've played, a third of those are on the same three maps.

There are pretty obvious reasons why I've played more classic that any other map.. One of them being that people used to make a lot more classic games that anything else.

But, like I said, you take nothing, insert it into a clueless thought process, and you get a whole bunch of nothing masquerading as statistics, useful data, etc.
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Postby porkenbeans on Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:20 am

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porkenbeans wrote:You have played 1/3 of all your games on 3 maps.


See this is the sort of thing I'm talking about when I say you put nothing in, and out of it you create trash. There's no real information involved, when you insert nothing into a subjective predisosed thought processs/machine to create statistics or "information", what comes out is information about the thought process/machine itself, not the original "nothing" data.

I've only completed 340 games and 80 of those were classic. Remove classic and you can't say that out of all the games on the remaining 74 maps that I've played, a third of those are on the same three maps.

There are pretty obvious reasons why I've played more classic that any other map.. One of them being that people used to make a lot more classic games that anything else.

But, like I said, you take nothing, insert it into a clueless thought process, and you get a whole bunch of nothing masquerading as statistics, useful data, etc.
"clueless thought process", That is the best black kettle claim that I've heard in a while.
Try to follow this Thought process, wont you ? Ill try to to go slow.
How many different maps a person plays is of no consequence. If a person played all of his games on a single map, That would be his own strategy to advance. Everyone has the freedom here to develop whatever kind of strat. that they choose.
I just cant understand this silly notion that that is somehow unfair. How is trying to be the best, anything like farming Noobs ? Its like a kid that says after loosing a spelling bee, "Oh it was not fair, The other person studied the word more than me".
COME ON DUDE, get your thought processes in gear.
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Postby john9blue on Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:23 am

porkenbeans wrote:"clueless thought process", That is the best black kettle claim that I've heard in a while.
Try to follow this Thought process, wont you ? Ill try to to go slow.
How many different maps a person plays is of no consequence. If a person played all of his games on a single map, That would be his own strategy to advance. Everyone has the freedom here to develop whatever kind of strat. that they choose.
I just cant understand this silly notion that that is somehow unfair. How is trying to be the best, anything like farming Noobs ? Its like a kid that says after loosing a spelling bee, "Oh it was not fair, The other person studied the word more than me".
COME ON DUDE, get your thought processes in gear.


Wow, you keep talking about "true skill" and the like, and I assumed you played a variety of games. But almost all of your games are the exact same, except for the people you are playing. I don't think that you can pass that off as "true skill". Although it's a step above farming, it's not the same as playing a variety of styles. Not even close.

Also, I question the accuracy of your list in reflecting the actual skill of a player in a variety of settings. Seulessliathan plays team sequential, Fruitcake plays team sequential no cards chained, Gwaahjo play standard freestyle escalating chained 2 player, and timmy1 plays mostly standard freestyle escalating unlimited 2 player (although he does have some variety). Some of these guys play almost exclusively the same few maps. Do you think those are really the most skilled players on the site? :roll:
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Postby lgoasklucyl on Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:35 am

porkenbeans wrote:
Aradhus wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:Yes, it used to be the other way around. I actually like multi-player games the best. Then one day I caught A multi, scum, cheater.
I had been stuck at sarge for a prolonged period at the time. And I thought that maybe there were games that I had been cheated, and didnt even know. So I decided to test my suspicions. I only entered or started games that could not be rigged. You cant multi in a 1V1, so most of my games became that type. Guess what friend, My rank shot up. I was being promoted every 6 or 7 games. My rank has steadily gone up every sense then. I missed the big multi-player games though. So, I decided to try and find a way to bring them back into my game.
I formed the CLEAN GROUP. It was not without its set backs, as the very first week a member was caught with a multi, adamk89. It has been a couple of months now, and we have close to 75 members. I am glad to have the big game back again.
Alas, I am weary though of arguing with you un-skilled Farmers.
You are not here to thoughtfully discuss anything. You are simply here to shout down anything that would hinder your rape of the Noob. And I am not going to give this as much time, as I have been lately. Nothing but Juvenalistic sparing is going on anyway. The same lame and discredited claims just follow on to the next thread. I have other things that I would rather be doing.
Like getting with chip, and doing what I can to further the development of MAP RANK. FYI, I am sure that M.R. will be used by more and more players. So, you guys may want to think of bringing on some new posters. I predict, that, your attempt at dominating the forums, ...is going to be getting, a little more difficult. ;) 8-)


I'm not a farmer.. Which you would know..if you read my posts.. in this topic, that you've posted in a half dozen times.. responding to my posts.. which you would have to read.. and understand..for your reponses to make sense.. oh

By the way, playing the same three maps, in 1v1s, is pretty close to being a good definition of "unskilled".
You have played 1/3 of all your games on 3 maps.


See, Pork, this is where I'm going to finally disagree with you (I personally didn't see this day coming, but comments you've made hit home). I MRed myself and I have a 'Point Hoarder' rank also. As someone who actively hosts public dubs/trips/quads and invite mostly clan members but leave them open to whomever desires, I have no control over who joins and therefore can be mis-judged by the relative map rank. If you look at my recent games you can see I'm involved in clan challenges, private matches, and a tournament now all involving players mostly 2000+, yet due to the overwhelming majority of lower ranks that hop in my team games I am still titled 'Point Hoarder'. I may play a lot of classic, b isles, and aussie but I like those maps. I'm trying to learn maps like waterloo etc... so that I can put up a fight on them, but it's simply not that easy.

Now, I would also like to congratulate the individuals who did make this list. To maintain such a high score and not have obtained it via playing thousands of clueless players is admirable, and you do deserve the congratulations and recognition Pork has brought to you. Regardless of if you "play the same pool of people" or not as stated before- at least those people have enough strategy and knowledge to grow to near the same level as you. As an apparent noob-farming point hoarder, I commend you all.

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Postby jarrett155 on Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:15 am

according to this i am not a farmer.... but some people think its questionable.... i dont noob farm tho
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