Am I missing something here?

by **Chong Warrior** on Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:12 pm

First off hi to all, my first post!

Right this probably gets asked all the time but I just can't get my head around it. I've played about 10 games now and pretty much the same thing happens except for once and I easily won the game.

The thing that's killing me is the 3v3 battles, I seem to lose them a lot when they attack me... I have yet to win a single 3v3 when attacking. I've got it down to 3v1 but when I attack again I lose everytime. I just don't even get a chance to use tactics as I'm already dead trying to move. I understand the odds are against the attacker but I'm losing loads when defending.

What am I missing?

by **Timminz** on Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:13 pm

Chong Warrior wrote:What am I missing?

don't attack 3v3. You'll do a whole lot better. Don't attack 3v2 either.

by **MrBenn** on Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:14 pm

You should try and attack with more armies... ie. Don't attack everything on your first go...

by **The Neon Peon** on Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:14 pm

Timminz wrote:
Chong Warrior wrote:What am I missing?

don't attack 3v3. You'll do a whole lot better. Don't attack 3v2 either.

or 2v1

by **the.killing.44** on Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:15 pm

And rarely 3v1

.44

by **Chong Warrior** on Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:16 pm

Yeah I get that but what's killing me is my enemies are attacking 3v3 and winning... I mean how? I've lost count the number of times I've attacked 1 with 3 and lost lol!

by **The Neon Peon** on Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:19 pm

Chong Warrior wrote:Yeah I get that but what's killing me is my enemies are attacking 3v3 and winning... I mean how? I've lost count the number of times I've attacked 1 with 3 and lost lol!

The rolls are determined by dice. And dice average out, so if they are sometimes better or worse, just shrug it off and don't change your strategy. The attacks mentioned above rely heavily on luck, which you do not want to be doing if you do not have a lot of it.

by **Chong Warrior** on Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:21 pm

Ok thanks for replies.... I'll keep going with my head down lol

by **blakebowling** on Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:03 am

The Neon Peon wrote:The rolls are determined by dice

Assault Cubes

by **The Neon Peon** on Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:28 am

blakebowling wrote:
The Neon Peon wrote:The rolls are determined by dice

Assault Cubes

I think there is a difference between helping someone new to the site and being technically correct.

Maybe that is just me, but I would be confused by "assault cubes."

by **whitestazn88** on Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:10 am

it'll even out in the end, but like the others have said, avoid it if you can

by **mrblitz** on Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:17 am

You don't want to make those kinds of attacks unless you have to.

3:1 is the attack you want.

So you want to have at least 4 armies on the attacking territory.

Then look for a weak neighbor.

The 2:1, 2:2, 1:1, 1:2 attacks aren't the kind you want to make unless the situation is dire.

2:1 is actually not bad. 2:2 is bad, and 1:1 and 1:2 are generally only for when the entire game is on the line; or you just drank a bunch of coffee.

3:1 and 3:2 are probably the most common attacks made in the game. I would guess 2:1 attacks would rank 3rd.

A 2:1 is not a bad attack, but it probably shouldn't be your bread and butter.

3:1, 3:2; those are your bread and butter.

Use auto-assault for the big battles and off you go.

by **BaldAdonis** on Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:11 am

the.killing.44 wrote:And rarely 3v1

.44

No way, 3v1 is a lock. Roll it when you can safely advance (or stay). And yes, I do mean 2 dice against 1. I roll it all the time in two player games. It's often the difference between winning and losing.

To the OP: Have a look at http://gamesbyemail.com/Games/Gambit/BattleOdds There's a table that gives you all the odds for each individual roll, and if you have a plan for a bunch of rolls (like a sequence of attacks to eliminate a player), you can punch in the numbers and find out how you'll fare.

by **Megadeth666** on Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:55 am

I think it was brought up earlier, but some people think a 3 vs 3 means that the attacker is actually getting 3 dice, but in reality, the attacker is only rolling 2 because 1 has to stay on that territory, and a 2 vs 2 is never a good bet :roll:

by **Elijah S** on Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:26 am

To the OP...
Unlike ACTUAL dice, CC dice are streaky and the defender often will roll many consecutive 6's.

This has been discussed in great length, and CC admin always defends the dice as being "random", but all you have to do is watch the results of your attacks to see that they are, indeed, streaky.

My suggestion is to avoid attacking with anything less than double the number of armies that the defender has.
3 vs. 3 is rarely going to win even with real dice (remembering - the defender wins ties), but with CC dice the chances of prevailing in that scenario is very rare.