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fusibaseball wrote:Pixar's reaction is also weird to me. It was already getting a little fishy that there seemed to be a core group of vocal players adamantly against jumping on the free-claim wagon when I don't see a drawback to getting information out in the open. If he's Town, the claim can be cleanly followed up on Night 1 and he's untouchable for a while (role-blocking roles aside, which could be addressed later down the road). If he's Scum/3rd party, he's promptly found out and the lynch Day 2 is easy. What's going on?
Town's primary power is their vote, which they must use to vote out all 3 mafia before they lose control. The game starts with approximately ~17 town vote power and to ~7 scum vote power. When there are no remaining double-voters, then town has likely lost because the vote power differential no longer exists.
Do NOT play this setup without having any foreknowledge as it will be borderline impossible to win as town unless Tax Collector is killed early.
Loose Canon wrote:Regarding my vote not counting yes I knew.
I'm not going to spell out my identity even if the votes try to force a claim on me on day 1.
My identity MIGHT become clearer IF I survive this day and night.
Extreme Ways wrote:I was fastposted.Loose Canon wrote:Regarding my vote not counting yes I knew.
I'm not going to spell out my identity even if the votes try to force a claim on me on day 1.
My identity MIGHT become clearer IF I survive this day and night.
Do you mean that your role might do something else tomorrow? Otherwise, I don't see why you willingly chose to reveal this piece information without having a bit more for us to go on.
btw I think pix just had fortunate timing and I dont think they were coordinating whatsoever.
fusibaseball wrote:Pixar's reaction is also weird to me. It was already getting a little fishy that there seemed to be a core group of vocal players adamantly against jumping on the free-claim wagon when I don't see a drawback to getting information out in the open. If he's Town, the claim can be cleanly followed up on Night 1 and he's untouchable for a while (role-blocking roles aside, which could be addressed later down the road). If he's Scum/3rd party, he's promptly found out and the lynch Day 2 is easy. What's going on?
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
Maxleod wrote:Not strike, he's the only one with a functioning brain.
strike wolf wrote:So there's three+ possibilities here in terms of Loose's role.
1. Loose is voteless. He may have another power to counteract his otherwise detrimental role to town but I can't say for certain. I don't think there has ever been a case of a vote less mafia. It's just too detrimental to them to have a member who can't vote at all.
2. Loose can only vote under certain conditions.
A. Loose can only vote to hammer.
B. Loose's vote is activated under other conditions or after a certain condition is met.
Scenario 2 is a little more likely to be scum but still usually falls under town.
3. And this is getting out there as I'm not sure there's ever even been such a role but Loose could hypothetically even be a role who can give their vote to someone else.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
we may have a Vote Thief or Restless Spirit on our hands.Loose Canon wrote:Regarding my vote not counting yes I knew.
I'm not going to spell out my identity even if the votes try to force a claim on me on day 1.
My identity MIGHT become clearer IF I survive this day and night.
Extreme Ways wrote:I lean to one of two scenarios:
1) Loose is lying and wasnt aware that his vote didnt count and is now panicking/bluffing.
2) Loose wasn't lying and him voting is a condition for something else to happen, as town.
The second is kinda convoluted but why would you vote as scum knowing it would make you prime suspect nr 1. There was no reason to vote, nobody was even asking him to vote.
Am I right in thinking not voting gives scum an advantage as they will probably kill one or more of us on Night one and so its marginally best for us to vote someone out rather than not.
That's all folks!!!
DukeHazzard wrote:I must say that all this coming out about loose, it's very interesting and gives us something to discuss. I'm leaning on the side of he's town with that role. I also think that the 0 vote - 2 vote alternating days makes the most sense to me out of all the possibilities.
Having said that, Pix has used this to avoid claiming. When I voted for him, I didn't actually think he was scummy. But now, his avoidance, and seemingly hoping we would forget about him, makes me feel that he is scummy. I get that he's also using the joke wagon excuse to not take this seriously, but then that also seems scummy. Why not just come clean and claim? Like he's supposed to. Unless he has something to hide...
Pix?
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DukeHazzard wrote:I must say that all this coming out about loose, it's very interesting and gives us something to discuss. I'm leaning on the side of he's town with that role. I also think that the 0 vote - 2 vote alternating days makes the most sense to me out of all the possibilities.
Having said that, Pix has used this to avoid claiming. When I voted for him, I didn't actually think he was scummy. But now, his avoidance, and seemingly hoping we would forget about him, makes me feel that he is scummy. I get that he's also using the joke wagon excuse to not take this seriously, but then that also seems scummy. Why not just come clean and claim? Like he's supposed to. Unless he has something to hide...
Pix?
DirtyDishSoap wrote:DukeHazzard wrote:I must say that all this coming out about loose, it's very interesting and gives us something to discuss. I'm leaning on the side of he's town with that role. I also think that the 0 vote - 2 vote alternating days makes the most sense to me out of all the possibilities.
Having said that, Pix has used this to avoid claiming. When I voted for him, I didn't actually think he was scummy. But now, his avoidance, and seemingly hoping we would forget about him, makes me feel that he is scummy. I get that he's also using the joke wagon excuse to not take this seriously, but then that also seems scummy. Why not just come clean and claim? Like he's supposed to. Unless he has something to hide...
Pix?
Even if this wasn't day 1, i can't agree with any of this logic. You have someone with an incredibly unique mechanic. The Pix train started out as a joke that derailed into a weird bandwagon. I think it's odd that he wanted the votes and to claim, but it's more suspicious to me on how many people jumped on it. At the very least, one of the people who jumped on it is scum.
FOS Duke
Loose Canon wrote:Guys, my post just now has appeared.
There were 2 posts I tried to make last night that didn't.
First time when I didn't see it I thought it was like sending an email before finishing it and I'd deleted it.
So I tried again and it didn't post either.
Does anyone have any ideas about this?
Loose Canon wrote:I cast a vote I knew wouldn't count because I felt there wasn't much useful chat going round at that time, and so I wanted to try to restart it. At that time I felt marginally that Ragian was a bit suspicious so I cast it to see if there was any traction for that.
What I didn't know was HOW my unable to vote vote would be revealed or become evident.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
After all Town's primary power is their vote, which they must use to vote out all 3 mafia before they lose control. The game starts with approximately ~17 town vote power and to ~7 scum vote power.
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