Sierra_Leon wrote:Pff, the gods are useful as ever, I see. Anyhow, after reading back I didn't find as many clues as I was hoping for. Checking the alive-list, there's not just spin submarining his way through this, but also fircoal, skoffin and kwanton. However, a theory popped into my head when I was re-reading this day - with Mandy's claim and firth's investigation on him.
What if the scum consist of the four horsemen like Mandy said, but there are in fact no horse-hunters in this game?
I'm thinking that Mandy might be scum, claiming he role he knows won't be counter-claimed because it simply doesn't exist. I have several reasons to believe this.
1) I have seen no clues that there are other horse-hunters like he claims there are. I'll admit that they have had no reason to claim yet, but it's not helping Mandy's case any.
2) The role would be very unbalanced and he admitted this himself.mandalorian2298 wrote:[...]
During the re-reading I decided that my task is kind of hard. It's basicaly finding 1 guy out of 30. So, there could be some kind of a hint in it for me. Like a post restriction. Assuming that this is so, here is my theory on who might be the Red Horse of Apocalypse (War):
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3) He's repeatedly claimed to be 3rd-party (even recruitable), but now suddenly claims he's pro-god. (or did you claim this was a neutral role, Mandy? you weren't very clear about that)mandalorian2298 wrote:[...]
Personaly, I have a problem with neither lying nor hypocrasy if it serves a purpose. And since I am not a member of an game-winning mayority, yet(or the game would end and I would be posting things like "Go side x!
" instead of explaining the basic truths of our current conditions), it is reasonable to assume that I am going to lie, manipulate (and hopefully get away with it
) during the course of the game. Person who would claim otherwise at this point would be - lying.
I have no intention of joining a bunch of satanists atheists and (in a minority of cases) legitimate pro-God-lings in their prayers and hymns. If you want to lynch me for that, be my guest. But, bare in mind, you might be weakening your own side (on the other hand, you may be eligable for CNN's Play-of-the-Day
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4) Why would firth's investigation on Mandy fail? The role he described is not so powerful that it would be immume to investigations. A day-roleblocker is just as unlikely. This makes me think he might even be the Anti-Christ himself.firth4eva wrote:Sorry AD I already used my investigation. I investigated mandy and for some reason I didn't get my result back .I got a pm from jnd saying "for some reason you don't get the investigation result through".
I have no idea why
5) Mandy's been acting scummy all game, but it's been ignored after phrases like "That's just mandy being mandy". He voted for the confirmed day cop after a god said we should and later voted freezie when a god said we should. He's been using these messages as excuses to try and start bandwagons.mandalorian2298 wrote:[...]
Anyways, who am I to doubt th Gods? vote Firth4evamandalorian2298 wrote:Unvote
Vote Freezie I like when a Deity identifies itself. There's a good God *pats Skittles on the head*
I'm very curious to hear your thoughts about this, and ofcourse what Mandy has to say about this himself.
Thanks for the bold part.
1. Nor will you see any. BTW, I would like to thank No. 2 hunter of 'Team 3' for eliminating two more suspects from my list with his display of bravado .
2. I said 'hard' not unbalanced. But, if I am right about either the 'Clues' or about the fact that there being far fewer Horses then Hunters, then this turns into a classic Mafia-Town confrontation + a God for each side and a big number of Survivor-type bystanders.
3. Sierra =
. I never claimed anything other then Abraham. I have, however, hinted that I am Neutral, to lessen the chances of geting NKed. Also, I hoped to provoke Scum recruiters (if there are any) to waste a recruitment on me.
4. Yes, who could possibly protect me in the game with 2 GODS?!
5. As I have said, I acted Neutral (not scummy) during the time when I had no better plan.
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vote Sierra Leon mostly because of 3rd point of his accusation. During the time before my claim, I have repeated over and over again that I am working in the interess of me winning the game and that I refuse to claim pro-God, pro-Devil or Neutral. The fact that Sierra, a good player by any standard, would choose to overlook this fact, reminds me of the 'Manhunt' game which was won by Mafia (of which I was a, dead, part
) after Mountain Lion (with Wicked's help) menaged to convince the town to lynch the (claimed) Cop (played by Aimless, no less 
). In my oppinion, the decision to go after the, seemingly, hardest target (in this case me, since I made a believable and uncoerced role-claim) is based on two things.
Firstly, the Scum under attack decides that is he is allready in danger, he might as well try to 'Shoot the Moon'. If this tactic suceeds (and the game doesn't end, as it did in 'Manhunt') then EVERYBODY who voted for the obviously inocent target have a lot of explaining to do. If the tactic fails, then he will end just as dead as he would end if he did nothing.
Secondly, the fact that he is trying to deflect the bandwagon by going after me (and after a more likely target, like one of the submarriners) is designed to seem altruistic.
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Sigh. After all that I have to unvote
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, because I have just realized that there is no way that Anarkistsdream is telling the truth.
To whom it may concern: YOU IDIOT!
1. You are hunting the White Horse.
2. The rider of the White Horse is the Antichrist.
3. ANARKISTSDREAM CLAIMS TO BE HUNTING THE ANTICHRIST!
DO YOU NOTICE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS!!!!!
Anyway, for all of you other guys, I know that Nark is not the one who hunts the White Horse (aka Antichrist), because I know who is hunting it.
vote Nark. Congats on almost geting away with it bro.
To all of you who are hunting a horse of some kind: GO TO THE BLOODY WIKIPEDIA AND READ THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE 4 HORSMEN OF APOCALYPSE! Thank you.
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