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Re: Sandy was no coincidence: UN

Postby Metsfanmax on Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:57 am

Phatscotty wrote:I can already tell when the time comes, the attacks on car owners will be "if you own a car, you are the same as a European slave owner. Racist!"


No, not slave owner. Murderer.
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Re: Sandy was no coincidence: UN

Postby tzor on Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:41 am

Metsfanmax wrote:At least Al Gore is doing something about the problem;


Yes he profits from it!

Article written in 2009 wrote:Gore left the government in 2001 reporting a net worth of less than $2 million. Since then his personal net worth has skyrocketed. The New York Times reports that he recently invested $35 million in Capricorn Investment Group.


Here is an article from the UK Telegraph: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

Heck even Good Morning America’s Diane Sawyer (Atricle from News Busters) was complaining that Gore was deliberately ignoring the reater dangers of China CO2 and global warming from Cow Methane.
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Re: Sandy was no coincidence: UN

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:40 am

tzor wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:At least Al Gore is doing something about the problem;


Yes he profits from it!

Article written in 2009 wrote:Gore left the government in 2001 reporting a net worth of less than $2 million. Since then his personal net worth has skyrocketed. The New York Times reports that he recently invested $35 million in Capricorn Investment Group.


Here is an article from the UK Telegraph: Al Gore could become world's first carbon billionaire

Heck even Good Morning America’s Diane Sawyer (Atricle from News Busters) was complaining that Gore was deliberately ignoring the reater dangers of China CO2 and global warming from Cow Methane.

It would be nice if those claiming Global warming is fiction would consult EXPERTS, instead of folks like Al Gore!!!!

There is no longer ANY real doubt that the Earth is warming and that the impact will be very, very damaging to humanity.
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Re: Sandy was no coincidence: UN

Postby tzor on Sun Dec 02, 2012 8:44 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:It would be nice if those claiming Global warming is fiction would consult EXPERTS, instead of folks like Al Gore!!!!


Experts aren't driving global policy to collapse the world economy and drive humanity to the stone age; bastards like Al Gore are. More over they are but one of a plethora of doomsday prophets who keep shouting "they sky is falling" because people are, by their nature gullible and easily fall victim to con men.

If you filter out the CON MEN who pray on the gullible, you find a concensus that global warming gasses play a factor, perhaps a major factor to the climate conditions of the planet. However, methane is still, by far, vastly more powerful than carbon dioxide and "manmade" (it's really not made by men but made by the animals men raise for their meat consumption) is still the biggest factor in the global warming gas problem. So the factor that CO2 plays in climate change is neither a doomsday level nor is it major.

To turn it back to the topic; it didn't "cause" Sandy, nor was it responsible for making Sandy a "superstorm."

Once again, rational thought leads to rational changes that have cumulative impacts over time.
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Re: Sandy was no coincidence: UN

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:51 pm

tzor wrote:Experts aren't driving global policy to collapse the world economy and drive humanity to the stone age; bastards like Al Gore are. More over they are but one of a plethora of doomsday prophets who keep shouting "they sky is falling" because people are, by their nature gullible and easily fall victim to con men.


Well, scientists should not be the ones responsible for making policy. Scientists are there to tell us what the problem is and what needs to be done to fix it. The implementation part of it is on policymakers. Al Gore shouldn't need to convince people that there is a problem, which is unfortunately the role he's been relegated to.

If you filter out the CON MEN who pray on the gullible, you find a concensus that global warming gasses play a factor, perhaps a major factor to the climate conditions of the planet. However, methane is still, by far, vastly more powerful than carbon dioxide and "manmade" (it's really not made by men but made by the animals men raise for their meat consumption) is still the biggest factor in the global warming gas problem. So the factor that CO2 plays in climate change is neither a doomsday level nor is it major.


Methane may be a stronger absorber than CO2 but there's also a lot less of it in the atmosphere, so CO2 is ultimately responsible for much more radiative forcing than anything else (see the IPCC report, for example).
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Re: Sandy was no coincidence: UN

Postby thegreekdog on Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:52 am

Commander62890 wrote:Change should come slowly, for the sake of those whose jobs and livelihoods will be affected. People should not just get laid off and left to find a new career without any support. The government is responsible for the people whose lives will be negatively affected through environmentalism. But I just can't get on board with the idea that protecting peoples' personal freedoms is, in general, paramount to environmental action.


I don't think it needs to be given that they are not mutually exclusive (i.e. environmental action and protecting personal freedoms).
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