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The Dalai Lama

Postby chang50 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:30 am

Now here's a religious leader saying something the sentiments of which I'm unaware of any Christian,Muslim or Jewish head ever uttering..

'We must conduct research and then accept the results.If they don't stand up to experimentation then the Buddha's own words MUST be rejected.'..........The Dalai Lama.

I'm not converting,but no-one can deny these are impressive words for the head of a major religion,surely?

The responses of adherents to the Abrahamic faiths would be especially appreciated..
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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby notyou2 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:11 am

Those are religious words I can respect and agree with.
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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:35 am

I think this has long been an idea embraced by the Dalai Lama I think. I recall him saying on a number of occasions saying that rigorous debate and conversation lead to advancement and understanding. He's also said that secular ethics are an important component of morality, just as any religious ethics.


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Postby 2dimes on Fri Apr 12, 2013 9:19 am

It's nice but a little open ended.

Example, should we develop better biological weapons?
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Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:50 am

2dimes wrote:It's nice but a little open ended.

Example, should we develop better biological weapons?


Of course, they would be more environmentally friendly.

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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby crispybits on Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:53 am

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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:23 am

The Dalai Lama's pretty cool as far as religious figures go.

From what I've heard though (and correct me if I'm wrong), while he was in charge Tibet was still a totalitarian, class-divided, shithole complete with enforcement of medieval style maiming punishments. So there's that.
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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:25 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:The Dalai Lama's pretty cool as far as religious figures go.

From what I've heard though (and correct me if I'm wrong), while he was in charge Tibet was still a totalitarian, class-divided, shithole complete with enforcement of medieval style maiming punishments. So there's that.


Yeah, before the Chinese rolled through in the 1950s, Tibet was essentially a caste system with a ruling minority of landlords while the majority of the populace were basically slaves.*

*sauce: from a years-old conversation I had with a Chinese history professor.
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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby notyou2 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:45 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:The Dalai Lama's pretty cool as far as religious figures go.

From what I've heard though (and correct me if I'm wrong), while he was in charge Tibet was still a totalitarian, class-divided, shithole complete with enforcement of medieval style maiming punishments. So there's that.


Yeah, before the Chinese rolled through in the 1950s, Tibet was essentially a caste system with a ruling minority of landlords while the majority of the populace were basically slaves.*

*sauce: from a years-old conversation I had with a Chinese history professor.


Whew, thank god the chinese saved us from the tibetans. That was close.
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Postby chang50 on Fri Apr 12, 2013 10:57 pm

2dimes wrote:It's nice but a little open ended.

Example, should we develop better biological weapons?


I think he was talking about research in general in order to better understand the universe,I don't suppose weapons research would be high on his list of priorities.Really it's a ringing endorsement of the scientific method.
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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby Maugena on Sat Apr 13, 2013 2:04 am

notyou2 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:The Dalai Lama's pretty cool as far as religious figures go.

From what I've heard though (and correct me if I'm wrong), while he was in charge Tibet was still a totalitarian, class-divided, shithole complete with enforcement of medieval style maiming punishments. So there's that.


Yeah, before the Chinese rolled through in the 1950s, Tibet was essentially a caste system with a ruling minority of landlords while the majority of the populace were basically slaves.*

*sauce: from a years-old conversation I had with a Chinese history professor.


Whew, thank godzilla the chinese saved us from the tibetans. That was close.

Lol.
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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:22 am

Maugena wrote:
notyou2 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:The Dalai Lama's pretty cool as far as religious figures go.

From what I've heard though (and correct me if I'm wrong), while he was in charge Tibet was still a totalitarian, class-divided, shithole complete with enforcement of medieval style maiming punishments. So there's that.


Yeah, before the Chinese rolled through in the 1950s, Tibet was essentially a caste system with a ruling minority of landlords while the majority of the populace were basically slaves.*

*sauce: from a years-old conversation I had with a Chinese history professor.


Whew, thank godzilla the chinese saved us from the tibetans. That was close.

Lol.


My point was simply that his "holier-than-thou" shtick is bullshit and he's a massive hypocrite. The fact that the chinese are shitty doesn't make him non-shitty by default.
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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby chang50 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 5:32 am

Haggis_McMutton wrote:The Dalai Lama's pretty cool as far as religious figures go.

From what I've heard though (and correct me if I'm wrong), while he was in charge Tibet was still a totalitarian, class-divided, shithole complete with enforcement of medieval style maiming punishments. So there's that.


You are correct he wasn't always so enlightened.
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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby tzor on Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:11 am

crispybits wrote:
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Interesting, but probably deserving of its own thread. The basic view of Godzilla is not always what Americans think it is. Godzilla, for example, always winds up destroying the ministry of taxation building in Tokyo, thus proving he is a friend of the common man. He also had a son (but let's forget those movies ... OK?).
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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby notyou2 on Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:33 am

tzor wrote:
crispybits wrote:
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Interesting, but probably deserving of its own thread. The basic view of Godzilla is not always what Americans think it is. Godzilla, for example, always winds up destroying the ministry of taxation building in Tokyo, thus proving he is a friend of the common man. He also had a son (but let's forget those movies ... OK?).



Your signature looks like a perfect place for godzilla to rampage.
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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sat Apr 13, 2013 8:35 pm

notyou2 wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Haggis_McMutton wrote:The Dalai Lama's pretty cool as far as religious figures go.

From what I've heard though (and correct me if I'm wrong), while he was in charge Tibet was still a totalitarian, class-divided, shithole complete with enforcement of medieval style maiming punishments. So there's that.


Yeah, before the Chinese rolled through in the 1950s, Tibet was essentially a caste system with a ruling minority of landlords while the majority of the populace were basically slaves.*

*sauce: from a years-old conversation I had with a Chinese history professor.


Whew, thank god the chinese saved us from the tibetans. That was close.


I know, right? You see, the Chinese are here to civilize others. That's what the Cultural Revolution is all about.

I only bring it up because some people glamorize Tibet before the Chinese took over. When we examine these events, it should be about relative benefits and costs. Have a slave-master caste system or a Communist Chinese-dominated "Autonomous" Region? Hard to say, but at least that question would point us in the right direction.
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Re: The Dalai Lama

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Re: The Dalai Lama

Postby Haggis_McMutton on Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:30 am

If someone took over your dictatorial regime and stopped you from pretending to be a living god, it would be reasonable to trick holywood actors into thinking you're some holy man while also taking several million dollars from the CIA to try to get your dictatorship back.

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