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Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby CBlake on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:35 am

The Xbox one is set to cost 499 USD and same for the euro, while the Ps4 is set for 399.
Xbox is really taking some heat for the whole used game situation, among other things , while PS4 is playing it safe and seems to be reaping the benefits.
What do you guys think of both consoles and if you have to choose one which will it be?
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:39 am

Xbox will have skype, halo, and minecraft.

Plastation won't charge fees for used games, require constant internet access, and won't have a system that may or may not be spying on you whenever its on (Kinect).


Yeah, I've had the Xbox and the 360 both, but with these things, I may end up switching or just keeping my 360 and gradually become a PC gamer.

Edit: PS4 did everything right. They made a game console that has a few extra features rather than a smart tv that lets you play games if you pay a fee.
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby ManBungalow on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:39 am

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And also all that b/s the Xbox One was offering about having the Kinect webcam on constantly (internet connected) and it counting how many people are in the room playing the game.

I don't think there is a contest.

Not that I'll be buying a PS4 anytime soon.
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:31 am

I'm not familiar enough with either of these systems to make an educated choice. However, I will likely choose X-Box One since I have an X-Box 360 and I dislike change.

Semi-related - I can download games to my X-Box 360. Do we think this is the wave of the future? Will conventional gaming systems take the place of the personal computer (for entertainment), television, and radio? Or is it already the wave of the present and I'm just old?
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby muy_thaiguy on Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:13 am

thegreekdog wrote:I'm not familiar enough with either of these systems to make an educated choice. However, I will likely choose X-Box One since I have an X-Box 360 and I dislike change.
I have a 360 too, and I really enjoy it. But the Xbox 1 just doesn't work for me (and going by 99% of the posts on the internet), and most other people as well. Including longtime Xbox owners.

Semi-related - I can download games to my X-Box 360. Do we think this is the wave of the future? Will conventional gaming systems take the place of the personal computer (for entertainment), television, and radio? Or is it already the wave of the present and I'm just old?

Really, that's only Indie games, Minecraft, and older games that have been out for a longtime. New releases, like Halo and what not, are not released to download until like 5 years after their initial release, if ever.
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby Lootifer on Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:34 pm

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thegreekdog wrote:I'm not familiar enough with either of these systems to make an educated choice. However, I will likely choose X-Box One since I have an X-Box 360 and I dislike change.
I have a 360 too, and I really enjoy it. But the Xbox 1 just doesn't work for me (and going by 99% of the posts on the internet), and most other people as well. Including longtime Xbox owners.

Semi-related - I can download games to my X-Box 360. Do we think this is the wave of the future? Will conventional gaming systems take the place of the personal computer (for entertainment), television, and radio? Or is it already the wave of the present and I'm just old?

Really, that's only Indie games, Minecraft, and older games that have been out for a longtime. New releases, like Halo and what not, are not released to download until like 5 years after their initial release, if ever.

On the PC download is pretty standard though.

No reason consoles wouldnt follow suit; and maybe this is really what Xbox1 had in mind but royally fucked up the PR. I mean no one sells a second hand download do they?
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby DirtyDishSoap on Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:39 pm

I've transitioned back to PC....Got stuck with League of Legends and Knights of the Old Republic.
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby CBlake on Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:54 pm

thegreekdog wrote:I'm not familiar enough with either of these systems to make an educated choice. However, I will likely choose X-Box One since I have an X-Box 360 and I dislike change.

Semi-related - I can download games to my X-Box 360. Do we think this is the wave of the future? Will conventional gaming systems take the place of the personal computer (for entertainment), television, and radio? Or is it already the wave of the present and I'm just old?


I think Xbox is taking too big of a leap. People do want apps and extras.. However I'm not trying to purchase a Computer/TV/Game System
I just want to play my favorite games at an affordable price ( not 499)
This may cut off some of the casual gamers that won't use any of these functions.. Also the offline gamer who doesn't play online at all.
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby pimpdave on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:05 pm

thegreekdog wrote:I'm not familiar enough with either of these systems to make an educated choice. However, I will likely choose X-Box One since I have an X-Box 360 and I dislike change.

Semi-related - I can download games to my X-Box 360. Do we think this is the wave of the future? Will conventional gaming systems take the place of the personal computer (for entertainment), television, and radio? Or is it already the wave of the present and I'm just old?


Microsoft is certainly trying to get out ahead of Apple TV here. I like the idea of getting NFL Sunday Ticket without having to have DirectTV!
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:09 pm

CBlake wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:I'm not familiar enough with either of these systems to make an educated choice. However, I will likely choose X-Box One since I have an X-Box 360 and I dislike change.

Semi-related - I can download games to my X-Box 360. Do we think this is the wave of the future? Will conventional gaming systems take the place of the personal computer (for entertainment), television, and radio? Or is it already the wave of the present and I'm just old?


I think Xbox is taking too big of a leap. People do want apps and extras.. However I'm not trying to purchase a Computer/TV/Game System
I just want to play my favorite games at an affordable price ( not 499)
This may cut off some of the casual gamers that won't use any of these functions.. Also the offline gamer who doesn't play online at all.


I don't play online at all and basically purchase my systems for two reasons: consistency and the games. When my Xbox 360 explodes, I'll probably go with XBox One. We used to use the 360 to stream Netflix, but now we can do that on our new TV.

pimpdave wrote:Microsoft is certainly trying to get out ahead of Apple TV here. I like the idea of getting NFL Sunday Ticket without having to have DirectTV!


That's interesting for two reasons. First, I also like the idea of getting NFL Sunday Ticket without DirectTv. Second, are we thinking that Microsoft is trying to beat Apple TV with the XBox One?
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby pimpdave on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:13 pm

The f*ck else are they doing then?
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:14 pm

pimpdave wrote:The f*ck else are they doing then?


I think they need to figure out who bought the Xbox 360 and determine whether those people will buy the Xbox One. Keep their current customers and then grow new ones, not the other way around. Is Army of God going to buy an XBox One?
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby GreecePwns on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:18 pm

Just like the end of the previous generation, the end of this generation has found me very bored with my current consoles and playing more of the PC epics like Civ5 and XCOM, I can only be arsed to play the sports games like FIFA and 2K right now. And Mario Strikers with friends (the GC one, not the broken-as-all-hell Wii one).

The Xbox One sounds very creepy, with the rumored Big Brother-like video DRM and whatnot. Add to that the always-online requirements (Kinect is always on as well), the obscene price point after accounting for online fees, and the whole no-used-games thing, it just seems so ridiculously anti-user. I know I won't be getting that.

The PS4 looks better than it in every way it seems. Even when it comes to games the only thing it is missing is the Microsoft exclusives which I can live without. The online fees for PS4 will actually be less than the ones that exist for Xbox 360 now.

As for Nintendo, the Wii U may not have the hardware but the gap between it and these is much smaller than the gap between the Wii and the PS3/360. It is also much cheaper than the other two consoles. It has free online play and the unique control, which while clunky-looking actually feels natural in your hands, almost like a regular control. But most importantly the games sound fantastic! Wonderful 101, Super Smash, Bayonetta 2, and Mario Kart 8 all look like great fun.

I will also take a "wait and see" approach on the Ouya, hoping that the game selection justifies the purchase.

So in reality its either Wii U or PS4 for me this generation.
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby john9blue on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:22 pm

i will probably be picking up a wii u soon

thegreekdog wrote:I'm not familiar enough with either of these systems to make an educated choice. However, I will likely choose X-Box One since I have an X-Box 360 and I dislike change.


xbox one won't be backwards compatible
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby GreecePwns on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:24 pm

Oh, also, muthafuckin' Battlefront 3! Woooo!
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby Crazyirishman on Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:28 pm

DirtyDishSoap wrote:I've transitioned back to PC....Got stuck with League of Legends and Knights of the Old Republic.


Where did you find a download of KoTOR? I've been looking for one for my laptop for a while now.

Anyways, I'll think I'll transition to PS4 (if I ever get around to buying that) just because I would likely play a lot of older games of the new console as well, so if I'm going to get charge to play used and/or borrowed games, then I am not likely to use that system anymore.
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:02 am

GreecePwns wrote:Just like the end of the previous generation, the end of this generation has found me very bored with my current consoles and playing more of the PC epics like Civ5 and XCOM, I can only be arsed to play the sports games like FIFA and 2K right now. And Mario Strikers with friends (the GC one, not the broken-as-all-hell Wii one).

The Xbox One sounds very creepy, with the rumored Big Brother-like video DRM and whatnot. Add to that the always-online requirements (Kinect is always on as well), the obscene price point after accounting for online fees, and the whole no-used-games thing, it just seems so ridiculously anti-user. I know I won't be getting that.

The PS4 looks better than it in every way it seems. Even when it comes to games the only thing it is missing is the Microsoft exclusives which I can live without. The online fees for PS4 will actually be less than the ones that exist for Xbox 360 now.

As for Nintendo, the Wii U may not have the hardware but the gap between it and these is much smaller than the gap between the Wii and the PS3/360. It is also much cheaper than the other two consoles. It has free online play and the unique control, which while clunky-looking actually feels natural in your hands, almost like a regular control. But most importantly the games sound fantastic! Wonderful 101, Super Smash, Bayonetta 2, and Mario Kart 8 all look like great fun.

I will also take a "wait and see" approach on the Ouya, hoping that the game selection justifies the purchase.

So in reality its either Wii U or PS4 for me this generation.


Do you think that's an age thing or a generational thing? I've found as I've gotten older I play more PC games (specifically strategy, which is the genre of the two games you mention above).
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby GreecePwns on Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:42 pm

You also play Hearts of Iron, a game whose complexity won't ever be matched on a console.

RTS specifically is really hard to do on a console. Halo Wars was an honestly decent attempt, but the micromanagement required for some of the more popular PC RTSs just can't be done with a remote (perhaps it can on the Wii U gamepad).

Turn based games do appear on consoles but mostly in the form of RPG's, the PC ones just happen to be much, much better IMO.
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:03 pm

GreecePwns wrote:You also play Hearts of Iron, a game whose complexity won't ever be matched on a console.

RTS specifically is really hard to do on a console. Halo Wars was an honestly decent attempt, but the micromanagement required for some of the more popular PC RTSs just can't be done with a remote (perhaps it can on the Wii U gamepad).

Turn based games do appear on consoles but mostly in the form of RPG's, the PC ones just happen to be much, much better IMO.


If there were strategy games (e.g. HOI) on the X-Box, I would use the X-Box probably (because I have a slower computer).
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Re: Xbox One vs. PS4

Postby muy_thaiguy on Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:44 am

Okay, one game coming out for the Xbox One is called Ryse: Son of Rome. A bit of hack and slash, but looks like you also command troops, which is pretty cool. And note: Not quick time events for the special button pressing, you will not fail the combat if you do not press the corresponding button, it is only for bonus points.

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